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Replying To Really: "Men against boys really. Physically, a very light-weight Galway team who Kilkenny easily threw aside - as Paidí O'Sé used to say "like a loaf of bread". You'd have to feel sorry for the sub keeper." I see you spout your nonsense on the Hurling thread as well as the football one.
FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 428 - 09/06/2025 09:52:56
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Ah lads - thats was tough watching. We started off so we'll and finished strong but that 50mins in the middle was pretty poor. Few points that stood out to me:
- We made MOTM out of Huw Lawlor. The man is a collessous in the air and our FF line isnt blessed with aerial ability - and what do we do? Not just once which is forgiveable but at least 4 times, we played the ideal kinda ball that Lawlor loves, right bloody into him and we actually conceeded 2 pints down the other end because of it.
- This craic of just lorrying the ball down the field without looking and no one up there, and I mean not even anyone within 50yards of where the balls goes - its madness. We have been doing it for years now and at least 5times a match, other counties arent doing this...well at least not in the same volume we seem to be doing it.
- I dont believe in the theory that this is a MOD re-build, wheres the rebuild? Most of that team has been around for years now?! Flemming is about the only new name on the teamsheet yesterday (probably only 2 other new names on teh overall panel yesterday.
- Finally, and I wont name names because its not fair but theres lads knocking around that Galway team for 2-3 years now and I just seeen it from there, give any lad a chance for maybe 2 years to get settled and develop but Im just not seeing it from them.
Ive no answer as to what happens next or what we do, like MOD is picking the best thats around, is it the coaching then? of the tactics? are some of these lads just uncoachable? But some of the play and decsions yesterday were very dissapointing. Not sure theres better hurlers to bring in though.
The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 787 - 09/06/2025 10:09:17
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Replying To BostonGuy: "What shocked me today was the hurling strategy or lack thereof. It looked like we though Johnny Glynn was playing full forward, we have small and reasonably pacy forwards so the idea of hitting in high balls to Huw Lawyer is mind boggling. The second thing that was awful was our inability to win our own puckouts, this has been a problem for a number of years now, we seem to lash it out and hope somebody will get it. KK are a decent team but not world beaters by any means. All being told we are in year 1 of a MOD rebuild, so giving the benefit of the doubt here. I do worry that we don't have the talent at a quantity to step up from underage to make the impact that's needed" Disagree here, in the first half our position for puckouts was pretty complex an unothodox, Burke and Linnane were pften in a pod on one side with 3 half forwards on the opposite wing, and at other times the half forwards were central with midfield deep. I spent most of the first half tryign to figure out what we were doing. Not saying it was genius or that it worked but at least there's eforts being made to address thre problem. With Walsh we went a bit more direct alright.
It's sometimes hard to know if there really is 'No game paln' or bad execution is making it look that way but I think a lot of the problems yezsterday were down to bad decisions. Maybe we need to dumb it down. A couple of times Kevin was isolated inside with Tommy Walsh and Lawlor was out the field and we didn't hit him. Meanwhile without fail when we did go long Lawlor was in there which is a recipe for disaster
Overdahill (Galway) - Posts: 70 - 09/06/2025 10:09:48
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Replying To Really: "Men against boys really. Physically, a very light-weight Galway team who Kilkenny easily threw aside - as Paidí O'Sé used to say "like a loaf of bread". You'd have to feel sorry for the sub keeper." I really dont think this is teh case, yes we have some small forwards but honestly physicalility wouldnt be in the top 5 things I be worried about with this team
The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 787 - 09/06/2025 10:16:02
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Replying To yew_tree: "Are Mayo people not allowed have an opinion on hurling? The arrogance from some hurling people never ceases to amaze me" Don't worry, the same sentiment exists towards many within the county as well, especially to those west of the Corrib.
The usual 'stick to football' comments at matches when clubs from non-hurling strongholds are fighting to keep the game going.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2373 - 09/06/2025 10:52:14
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Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Dont be fooling yourself. Glassy-eyed reveries might over consolation but they are delusional. Remember in the Leinster semi final Dublin came back from something like a 16 point margin and pegged KK back to 2 points before they extended it again. Do you think Dublin hurling supporters have reasons to feel hope as well?" Your probably right, but we have to go again. That is both the supporters and players. We have to back them, but they better come out and preform.
GDL (Galway) - Posts: 826 - 09/06/2025 10:53:08
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Replying To BostonGuy: "What shocked me today was the hurling strategy or lack thereof. It looked like we though Johnny Glynn was playing full forward, we have small and reasonably pacy forwards so the idea of hitting in high balls to Huw Lawyer is mind boggling. The second thing that was awful was our inability to win our own puckouts, this has been a problem for a number of years now, we seem to lash it out and hope somebody will get it. KK are a decent team but not world beaters by any means. All being told we are in year 1 of a MOD rebuild, so giving the benefit of the doubt here. I do worry that we don't have the talent at a quantity to step up from underage to make the impact that's needed" You started worrying about strategy, and ended up worrying about lack of talent. I'd start and finish with the talent level, because that's where it's at surely. It's much easier to work on strategy, when you've a talent pool to match the top5 in the country. We don't at the moment, so let's just suck it up, and wait til we do.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4209 - 09/06/2025 11:12:43
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Replying To Overdahill: "Disagree here, in the first half our position for puckouts was pretty complex an unothodox, Burke and Linnane were pften in a pod on one side with 3 half forwards on the opposite wing, and at other times the half forwards were central with midfield deep. I spent most of the first half tryign to figure out what we were doing. Not saying it was genius or that it worked but at least there's eforts being made to address thre problem. With Walsh we went a bit more direct alright.
It's sometimes hard to know if there really is 'No game paln' or bad execution is making it look that way but I think a lot of the problems yezsterday were down to bad decisions. Maybe we need to dumb it down. A couple of times Kevin was isolated inside with Tommy Walsh and Lawlor was out the field and we didn't hit him. Meanwhile without fail when we did go long Lawlor was in there which is a recipe for disaster" As good as Whelan is at graft and workrate and finishing, creativity and vision and link play just aren't his strong suits. He'll throw out the odd handpass to a colleague after mining a possession, but he ain't no Cian Lynch or Joe Canning, when it comes to half forward link play, creativity and playmaking.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4209 - 09/06/2025 11:21:36
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Replying To yew_tree: "Are Mayo people not allowed have an opinion on hurling? The arrogance from some hurling people never ceases to amaze me" Frankly, given the amount of ***** that appears on the Galway threads from Mayo people, would you not be better spending time sorting your own affairs out? They're not exactly the most humble of people either.
Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 912 - 09/06/2025 11:24:17
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Replying To WanPintWin: "Don't worry, the same sentiment exists towards many within the county as well, especially to those west of the Corrib.
The usual 'stick to football' comments at matches when clubs from non-hurling strongholds are fighting to keep the game going." That's not fair or accurate re west of the Corrib. There were bus loads from Connemara in the Cusack Stand yesterday, speaking their native tongue. There are at least two hurling clubs there, Maigh Cuilinn and Micheál Breatnach. One of the finest hurlers that played for Galway, John Connolly was born in Lettermore.
Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 187 - 09/06/2025 11:38:00
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "You started worrying about strategy, and ended up worrying about lack of talent. I'd start and finish with the talent level, because that's where it's at surely. It's much easier to work on strategy, when you've a talent pool to match the top5 in the country. We don't at the moment, so let's just suck it up, and wait til we do." We could be waiting a while if performances at underage in recent years are anything to go by.
If you were to look at the whole picture and ask what a county needs to be successful at senior intercounty.
We're lucky in that we have a lot of the ingredients that are needed. A good sized playing pool and a relatively large number of hurling focused clubs.
From there though, the work is in talent identification and development, and bringing through sufficient numbers of players at a certain level.
A number of counties seem to be ahead of us in this regard at the moment, so we're playing catch-up there.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2373 - 09/06/2025 11:42:29
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "As good as Whelan is at graft and workrate and finishing, creativity and vision and link play just aren't his strong suits. He'll throw out the odd handpass to a colleague after mining a possession, but he ain't no Cian Lynch or Joe Canning, when it comes to half forward link play, creativity and playmaking." The likes of Cian Lynch and Joe are scarce on the ground. Whelan is a fine hurler, I dread to think what the score would have been if he wasn't there yesterday.
Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 187 - 09/06/2025 11:46:07
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Replying To Crashingwaves: "That's not fair or accurate re west of the Corrib. There were bus loads from Connemara in the Cusack Stand yesterday, speaking their native tongue. There are at least two hurling clubs there, Maigh Cuilinn and Micheál Breatnach. One of the finest hurlers that played for Galway, John Connolly was born in Lettermore." +An Spidéal
+Bearna - Na Forbacha
The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 787 - 09/06/2025 12:30:06
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Replying To Crashingwaves: "The likes of Cian Lynch and Joe are scarce on the ground. Whelan is a fine hurler, I dread to think what the score would have been if he wasn't there yesterday." i agree
SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 348 - 09/06/2025 12:30:19
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Replying To Crashingwaves: "That's not fair or accurate re west of the Corrib. There were bus loads from Connemara in the Cusack Stand yesterday, speaking their native tongue. There are at least two hurling clubs there, Maigh Cuilinn and Micheál Breatnach. One of the finest hurlers that played for Galway, John Connolly was born in Lettermore." I'm pretty sure you misread my post. I said the attitude exists towards clubs from west of the Corrib, from the strongholds. While it is a minority, it's prevalent enough that I've heard it and experienced many times at hurling matches involving hurling clubs from Conamara.
If the Connolly's father didn't get sick and the family didn't move to Castlegar to be closer to Merlin, it's very debatable whether we would have made the breakthrough in 1980 at all.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2373 - 09/06/2025 12:44:27
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Replying To WanPintWin: "I'm pretty sure you misread my post. I said the attitude exists towards clubs from west of the Corrib, from the strongholds. While it is a minority, it's prevalent enough that I've heard it and experienced many times at hurling matches involving hurling clubs from Conamara.
If the Connolly's father didn't get sick and the family didn't move to Castlegar to be closer to Merlin, it's very debatable whether we would have made the breakthrough in 1980 at all." I misread that, sorry. I know Gaelic football clubs who'd have no problem with organising soccer tournaments but would react negatively to the idea of hurling being introduced to their area! I can understand hurling clubs being protective of their sport as it's a minority sport and requires huge commitment and practice from a young age.
Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 187 - 09/06/2025 13:10:01
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Replying To The_DOC: "Ah lads - thats was tough watching. We started off so we'll and finished strong but that 50mins in the middle was pretty poor. Few points that stood out to me:
- We made MOTM out of Huw Lawlor. The man is a collessous in the air and our FF line isnt blessed with aerial ability - and what do we do? Not just once which is forgiveable but at least 4 times, we played the ideal kinda ball that Lawlor loves, right bloody into him and we actually conceeded 2 pints down the other end because of it.
- This craic of just lorrying the ball down the field without looking and no one up there, and I mean not even anyone within 50yards of where the balls goes - its madness. We have been doing it for years now and at least 5times a match, other counties arent doing this...well at least not in the same volume we seem to be doing it.
- I dont believe in the theory that this is a MOD re-build, wheres the rebuild? Most of that team has been around for years now?! Flemming is about the only new name on the teamsheet yesterday (probably only 2 other new names on teh overall panel yesterday.
- Finally, and I wont name names because its not fair but theres lads knocking around that Galway team for 2-3 years now and I just seeen it from there, give any lad a chance for maybe 2 years to get settled and develop but Im just not seeing it from them.
Ive no answer as to what happens next or what we do, like MOD is picking the best thats around, is it the coaching then? of the tactics? are some of these lads just uncoachable? But some of the play and decsions yesterday were very dissapointing. Not sure theres better hurlers to bring in though." The players are there but depends where you're from. There is definitely a click in Galway hurling, club snobbery... And until that changes, nothing will change. If you didn't hurl u14 with Galway you have little chance of getting in.
BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 143 - 09/06/2025 13:12:02
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In theory I should be really happy with MOD'S first season back because we hit all the targets I think most fans were hoping for. There was lower expectations in Galway hurling this year than any I ever remember.
Most people had Galway picked for relegation in the league and not only did Galway stay safe but we were in a defacto semi final in the last match against Cork.
In Leinster after failing to qualify last year the main thing this year was to come out of Leinster and if we could do that by getting to a Leinster final then that would be better again.
This would give us an extra game to continue the build and also a shot at winning a provincial title.
All this along with a strong QF performance against a team who were more likely in a better position than us coming into the season should be a good first year back for MOD.
So why does it seem so disappointing and hollow? Losing 3 matches in the league wasn't a big deal, we finished higher than we expected but the manner of the losses was an issue. Three 12 point losses.
Follow this up with one of the worst Galway displays in years against Kilkenny in the first round of Leinster. Lack of skill was one thing, I could get over that, we're building a team who are in transition right now but the lack of fight and intensity was unforgivable.
Then today it looked like the fight and never give up attitude was there for the first 10 minutes but then after that it was just another awful performance. We only seemed to start playing when Kilkenny slowed up.
A poor game plan and the fact I was hoping we'd introduce a few more young players this year who'd either show they belong in a senior jersey or show they have potential for the future. But there hasn't been many so far.
This along with the poor performances of our minor's and U20 teams over the last few years and the worry of a lack of quality that is available to come through is a worry for the future.
The season isn't over yet, we'll more than likely be playing Tipp and that should be enough to fire up the players and maybe they'll produce something yet, but even though so far Galway have hit many of the targets I was hoping for this year I can't help but feel very underwhelmed
Galwegian_Entity (Galway) - Posts: 5 - 09/06/2025 13:12:14
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Replying To Ailteoir: "Frankly, given the amount of ***** that appears on the Galway threads from Mayo people, would you not be better spending time sorting your own affairs out? They're not exactly the most humble of people either." It wasn't a Mayoman that brought Mayo into the conversation.
So ailteoir we can take it you spend your time sorting out Galway GAA problems?
Yea and all Galway people are humble aren't they?
Cumann1 (Mayo) - Posts: 62 - 09/06/2025 13:27:30
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Joe running his mouth what not to do against Kilkenny. Someone should give him a team and see how he gets on coaching. Oh wait……
CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 544 - 09/06/2025 13:55:53
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