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Replying To Morty: "Some people are saying the GAA is acting like any business, however, I'm not aware of many businesses would try to diddle their most loyal customers who also happen to be shareholders in that business. It seems like a bad strategy. Sure, it ensures the GAA keeps the cash (to spend on what?) in the short term but how many will never get season tickets again?" Season ticket sales will drop for at least 2 reasons: 1. People will have less disposable income due to not working, 2. Some season tickets holders will be very sour about all this. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2590 - 29/04/2020 18:03:36 2277035 Link
Replying To lilypad: "not only that but also declared null and void, liverpool fans will be shittin themselves" As a Liverpool fan when will they award the Premiership to Liverpool? I mean it was absolutely obvious they were going to win it. Just wondering. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2590 - 29/04/2020 20:08:45 2277043 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Are you working for the gaa killing fields? The reason I ask is because I don't know anyone besides you who would be OK with what the gaa did. We as customers didn't receive what we paid for so we should entitled to a refund or free season tickets for next year. Can I ask are you a season ticket holder?" I work in events/hospitality Industry so know why gaa are doing this. There is basic terms and conditions with all tickets and gaa perfectly entitled to keep income. Season tickets you cant look for money back considering so many games under season ticket were played. No I'm not a season ticket holder KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3789 - 29/04/2020 20:09:56 2277044 Link
And shock horror the GAA have released a further statement . It's as if anyone with half a brain could see this coming. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8458 - 29/04/2020 20:24:47 2277046 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "I work in events/hospitality Industry so know why gaa are doing this. There is basic terms and conditions with all tickets and gaa perfectly entitled to keep income. Season tickets you cant look for money back considering so many games under season ticket were played. No I'm not a season ticket holder" You are actually saying that because you work behind a bar at events you know why they are doing this? No offence Ormo but you are not a GAA man and have said as much many times . See latest statement from GAA. As I told you earlier. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8458 - 29/04/2020 20:29:30 2277047 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "You are actually saying that because you work behind a bar at events you know why they are doing this? No offence Ormo but you are not a GAA man and have said as much many times . See latest statement from GAA. As I told you earlier." No I'm saying this because it makes sense to do so financially and quit with the personal attacks on me. You are obsessed with the name calling. You bully I am as much a gaa man as you or any others so get off your high horse KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3789 - 29/04/2020 21:10:32 2277052 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "No I'm saying this because it makes sense to do so financially and quit with the personal attacks on me. You are obsessed with the name calling. You bully I am as much a gaa man as you or any others so get off your high horse" Where is the personal attack? You told the poster you have knowledge of how this works based on working behind a bar at events. That's literally what you said? Look at my earlier statements and now look at the latest GAA statement. But yeah you know as much for sure. You clearly know little of the GAA finances and this huge PR gaffe. Sorry but that's the truth. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8458 - 29/04/2020 21:23:16 2277053 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "Not doing anything to be argumentative for the sake of it. Yes there is lots of volunteers but all gaa grounds facilities aren't run on nothing so... And what actual moneywise do you see as big money? Is it 10000, 2000 which exactly? Ball park. It hasn't been a stunt from the gaa. Its prudent matters necessary to be able to run as normal or as close to that into the future when we get back to normal. The customer may be king but if you dont have enough resources to be able to support that customer then what's the point." If you cannot afford to return money to customers who paid for an event(s) then you are not running your business right. If a concert got canceled you would be offered an alternative date or a refund. The GAA has not stipulated if this will be the case that's why everyone is so annoyed. 2 league games and 1 championship game is what's owed to season ticket holders. They should get those games on their existing ticket next season or a comparable deduction on next years ticket if they buy a ticket next season at the very least. And if the supporters want neither then they should get a refund. As I stated earlier consumer association Ireland representative on Pat Kenny earlier said what they did was effectively illegal. The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 214 - 29/04/2020 21:24:13 2277055 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Where is the personal attack? You told the poster you have knowledge of how this works based on working behind a bar at events. That's literally what you said? Look at my earlier statements and now look at the latest GAA statement. But yeah you know as much for sure. You clearly know little of the GAA finances and this huge PR gaffe. Sorry but that's the truth." Argues with everyone for the sake of it and then pulls out the bullying card, you're something else ormo! achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 584 - 29/04/2020 21:28:40 2277057 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "And shock horror the GAA have released a further statement . It's as if anyone with half a brain could see this coming." The fact they feel the need to release a further statement should tell everyone that the GAA knows they didn't do their ticket holders right. I mean if everything was normal and typical why say anything? Guilt trip perhaps? Lots of negative feedback? Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2590 - 29/04/2020 21:39:34 2277058 Link
And so they have bowed to the pressure The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 214 - 29/04/2020 21:41:21 2277059 Link
Replying To Trump2020: "As a Liverpool fan when will they award the Premiership to Liverpool? I mean it was absolutely obvious they were going to win it. Just wondering." to be honest i think they probably will award them the title but for such a passionate support itll take the shine off it a little lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 29/04/2020 21:45:35 2277060 Link
Replies by the Fonz & The Flaker really sum up what people think about this stunt. When it was broken on Twitter & The Examiner, I was contacted by friends who are season ticket holders & they were disgusted & outraged, some of them vowed not to purchase next year. People who purchase season tickets are usually diehard fans who travel all over the country, the type whose financial & voluntary support, the GAA is built on. To turn around and pull such a stunt on these people was contemptible & shows what regard they have for loyal supporters, it is another massive PR gaffe, one of many in the last few years. In order for this decision to be made you would imagine it would have to pass the approval of the Uachtaran & or the Ard Stiurothoir, they should come out & clarify who ok'd this. Backtracking after hearing the outrage & the possibility that this was probably illegal in consumer law, shows that whoever made this decision didn't factor in the supporters rage or the legal standing, it was all about the money. Many of us spent years defending the Association from the "Grab All Association" claim, however most people no longer do so, as in the last few years it has become defined by money & 98% of the membership are left behind in the pursuit of the Dineros. This stunt was indefensible & for an Association with so many paid executives, a shocking indictment of the leadership. When people throw the "Grab All Association" barb anymore, there won't be too many to defend it. An absolute insult & slap in the face to the diehard fans, indefensible action. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 29/04/2020 22:20:23 2277061 Link
Replying To The_Fonz: "And so they have bowed to the pressure" That and potential litigation. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 29/04/2020 22:28:03 2277063 Link
Earlier today, the GAA confirmed they will offer partial refunds to season ticket holders. The partial refunds will be offered should the 2020 season be cancelled due to the COVID-19 outbreak. An impending decision is to be made by the government on whether restrictions will be lifted. And there's a lot riding on the next couple of months in relation to league and championship action. In the last 24 hours, the GAA have come in for some criticism. It emerged on social media that they had unknowingly altered the terms and conditions last month regarding season ticket refunds. The clause in the terms stated that there would be no refunds provided in the event of the GAA season being postponed due to "circumstances outside of the control of the GAA". The text even included natural disasters and pandemics. However, in an email to GAA ticket holders today, the association stated that the insertion of the clause "to provide greater clarity to the existing terms and conditions for our season ticket holders and not an attempt by the GAA to step back from its obligations in dealing with the matter at hand". The GAA have given ticket holders the reassurance of a partial refund if the 2020 season is forced to be cancelled. "We are still hopeful of completing the 2020 intercounty and club season over the course of the current year. This will include championship and some of the remaining league fixtures." "If this unfortunately does not prove to be possible due to the ongoing Covid-19 restrictions, we will offer all 2020 Season Ticket holders a discount on their 2021 Season Ticket, or alternatively a partial refund of their 2020 Season Ticket. All refund decisions will be dependent on how the remainder of the 2020 Season can be completed." Regardless of what happens with the Championship, I'm planning on declining the refund if it becomes applicable, not that, that means much or will have much of an impact, but these are hard times, I'm concerned about their future cash flow, if a proper championship can't be played. I've always felt the season ticket is terrific value and honestly would have paid it if they were the cost of the NFL games I attended this year. I'm in a lucky position to be working away at the moment and being paid normally. So a personal decision made in solidarity for the following reason, many of my colleagues have been facilitated and supported being testing in Croker in recent days and weeks so a small gesture of gratitude for their support. Many aren't in the lucky position of working away so I'm glad the GAA has considered that and people can make a decision based on their own needs. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4518 - 29/04/2020 22:39:50 2277066 Link
Replying To lilypad: "to be honest i think they probably will award them the title but for such a passionate support itll take the shine off it a little" I don't see why. I mean the Virus didn't come from Liverpool. And they had such a lead over the 2nd place team that I can't see any team complaining about it. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2590 - 29/04/2020 23:50:50 2277069 Link
Replying To moc.dna: "Replies by the Fonz & The Flaker really sum up what people think about this stunt. When it was broken on Twitter & The Examiner, I was contacted by friends who are season ticket holders & they were disgusted & outraged, some of them vowed not to purchase next year. People who purchase season tickets are usually diehard fans who travel all over the country, the type whose financial & voluntary support, the GAA is built on. To turn around and pull such a stunt on these people was contemptible & shows what regard they have for loyal supporters, it is another massive PR gaffe, one of many in the last few years. In order for this decision to be made you would imagine it would have to pass the approval of the Uachtaran & or the Ard Stiurothoir, they should come out & clarify who ok'd this. Backtracking after hearing the outrage & the possibility that this was probably illegal in consumer law, shows that whoever made this decision didn't factor in the supporters rage or the legal standing, it was all about the money. Many of us spent years defending the Association from the "Grab All Association" claim, however most people no longer do so, as in the last few years it has become defined by money & 98% of the membership are left behind in the pursuit of the Dineros. This stunt was indefensible & for an Association with so many paid executives, a shocking indictment of the leadership. When people throw the "Grab All Association" barb anymore, there won't be too many to defend it. An absolute insult & slap in the face to the diehard fans, indefensible action." The lack of understanding of what they did is amazing on this board. Given you and a couple of posters you have mentioned have spent a good bit of time analyzing the issue - could you please clarify what you think the first change meant and how what they now have said changes that? zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2025 - 30/04/2020 03:18:51 2277070 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "I work in events/hospitality Industry so know why gaa are doing this. There is basic terms and conditions with all tickets and gaa perfectly entitled to keep income. Season tickets you cant look for money back considering so many games under season ticket were played. No I'm not a season ticket holder" Maybe if you were a season ticket holder you might be more angry, It's not about the money it's the sneakey way they did it. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 30/04/2020 07:54:10 2277074 Link
Replying To lilypad: "not only that but also declared null and void, liverpool fans will be shittin themselves" PSG officially crowned champions today. Not a Liverpool fan but would be silly to void season with them 25pts clear FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2894 - 30/04/2020 11:35:54 2277083 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Maybe if you were a season ticket holder you might be more angry, It's not about the money it's the sneakey way they did it." I really wouldnt as I know why theyve done it. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3789 - 30/04/2020 11:53:06 2277084 Link