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noticed the last few matches have been very poor, kildalkey v na fianna was poor as well saturday, kilmessan v athboy nearly as bad on sunday. awful standard compared to a few years ago. I dont know whats happened, maybe since kiltale and kildalkey have slipped, i think ratoath could come with a big rattle at the right time yet. Wouldnt be surprised if both kiltale and trim win thier last games and Na Fianna could be gone after all thier hard work. kiltale have to win so its a cup final, kildalkey are in semi final so can rest players and experiment with something different which they probabaly need to do. surely Trim will click against na fianna, that game should be in navan with kildlakey v kiltale in trim but probably bring trim v na fianna to Rathmolyon or clonard or something crazy like that.
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Went to the na fianna kildalkey game , it was poor stuff.
Trim will have their work cut out to beat na fianna , be interesting to see where its fixed for.
I was at ratoath kiltale sunday , again wasnt great game, kiltale looked very casual.
But it was again the ref who was the star of the show
Very fussy on puck outs , booked ratoath goalkeeper for not staying in the square on his puck out.
Constant frees for nothing for both teams , lots of timewaisting and slowing the game down from ratoath which was not added in either half. It ruined the game for both teams and anybody unfortunate enough to have to watch it.
Ratoath look to have everything needed to go far , they didnt even bother bring any subs on.
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Time for Hurling Board to cop on and reduce SHC to 8 teams too many teams out of their depth Tones Clan na Gael Blackhall and Longwood (one swallow dont make a summer). One sided games no good.
Time to kinda go like Football way 2 groups of 4. Four teams out of Group A is a joke a team could drop 6/7 points and still get 4th place What kind of a Championship is that.
Imagine 2 groups of 4 with 8 Top teams fighting it out for semi final spots and bottom 2 fighting it out against relegation.
Simple option 6 Group A sides and top 2 quarter Finalists from Group B play Senior. Other 4 and 4 IHC Semi Finalists play in a new Senior B and other 8 IHC sides stay Intermediate.
The poor SHC teams can still pretend their still Senior as status is one of the so called problems !!
Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 06/10/2021 09:42:35
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Trim v Na Fianna fixed for Sunday 17/10/21 in Rathmolyon
Kiltale kildalkey same time in Pairc T
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U wouldnt be expecting kildalkey to play outside trim or navan. God forbid.
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Replying To Brownepat: "Time for Hurling Board to cop on and reduce SHC to 8 teams too many teams out of their depth Tones Clan na Gael Blackhall and Longwood (one swallow dont make a summer). One sided games no good.
Time to kinda go like Football way 2 groups of 4. Four teams out of Group A is a joke a team could drop 6/7 points and still get 4th place What kind of a Championship is that.
Imagine 2 groups of 4 with 8 Top teams fighting it out for semi final spots and bottom 2 fighting it out against relegation.
Simple option 6 Group A sides and top 2 quarter Finalists from Group B play Senior. Other 4 and 4 IHC Semi Finalists play in a new Senior B and other 8 IHC sides stay Intermediate.
The poor SHC teams can still pretend their still Senior as status is one of the so called problems !!" To be honest you might aswell call the "senior B" a strong intermediate because that's all it is.
Them strong senior b teams still look to be a small bit away from the standard of senior a.
The whole thing of 4 qualifying in senior about of 6 teams is a bit ridiculous aswell. In some cases all some teams have to do is win 1 game and they might be able to get to a quarter final.
Only thing I like about senior b is that the teams have something to play for with every match . What I mean by that is for example Dunboyne and Kilmessan play next and whoever wins that tops senior A and is promoted to senior b next year. If Kilmessan lose and killyon win Kilmessan don't even get into a quarter final this year so at least there's 3 teams fighting in the last round for promotion and for a quarter final spot.
Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 06/10/2021 14:22:32
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I think the senior A and B switch is the best thing the county board done in years.
Senior a is very strong and all teams able to beat each other.
Most years the 6 are strong , longwood this year were weak but thats not normal for them.
Senior b all teams matched bar wolf tones who like the intermediate A sides are miles from senior standard.
The football club players look at envy with every team getting 5 games championship hurling every year in the groups.
The worst thing about hurling in the county now is the standard of refs , thats whats holding the standard back.
Play so to slow and constant stop start nature is no use to anybody.
Everything else is decent and a number of teams getting better by the year which is great to see
hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 424 - 06/10/2021 15:04:15
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I agree the whole thing of 4 teams coming out of senior A is a bit stupid , its a phoney war now. Trim have been poor all championship and could end up in a quater final. its a glorified league, needs to be cut to groups of 8. top 2 semi finals, bottom 2 relegation semi finals.
As for Kildalkey playing in navan or trim, believe me you hardly think kildalkey want that many games in navan? there not exactly a young team so getting out of navan into boardmill or longwood would suit them better. There record in navan in the last ten years in knock out hurling is fairly bad, 2012,2014,2016,2018 and 2020 they lost semi finals and lost finals in 2015 and 2017 so I dont think Kildalkey are overjoyed at playing so many games there, They would love a crack at a semi final v kiltale or Ratoath in Kilmessan or Athboy. Plus its a good half hour to every game for supporters instead of playing games in Athboy or Boardsmill where kildalkey would have traditionally played at least two games each in every championship. I would love to see the semi finals played in neutral venues, i remember athboy hosted semi finals and kildalkey hosted won in 1997 i think.
dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 767 - 06/10/2021 15:30:14
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Replying To Foley91: "U wouldnt be expecting kildalkey to play outside trim or navan. God forbid." Would ya like some salt for that chip on your shoulder there Foley91??
Woodbutcher (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 06/10/2021 18:28:16
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Replying To Meathgaalad: "I notice you listed both free takers as being excellent.
I was at the game, my god something needs to change soon or Meath hurling is going nowhere, free after free after free, and it was not a dirty game!!!!!!!" Yes i agree to many frees 22 frees scored between both teams and i think maybe Trim missed 3 or 4 and Wood missed 1 so nearly 30 scoreable fress witch is remarkable.
It is one of the biggest problem for Meath hurling game isn't giving a chance to get going.
And that particular ref was very inconsistent it was quite amusing every puck out went to Healy and he won alot but every so often the ref gave him a free for trim holding him down but they did it everytime so made no sense to give the odd one, sometimes players are afraid to tackle its a joke really.
Getting back to my point two stand out players were free takers they still have to put them over and Anthony scored great goal keep wood in the game both good from general play.
Slimbob (Meath) - Posts: 26 - 07/10/2021 12:53:16
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Replying To Brownepat: "Time for Hurling Board to cop on and reduce SHC to 8 teams too many teams out of their depth Tones Clan na Gael Blackhall and Longwood (one swallow dont make a summer). One sided games no good.
Time to kinda go like Football way 2 groups of 4. Four teams out of Group A is a joke a team could drop 6/7 points and still get 4th place What kind of a Championship is that.
Imagine 2 groups of 4 with 8 Top teams fighting it out for semi final spots and bottom 2 fighting it out against relegation.
Simple option 6 Group A sides and top 2 quarter Finalists from Group B play Senior. Other 4 and 4 IHC Semi Finalists play in a new Senior B and other 8 IHC sides stay Intermediate.
The poor SHC teams can still pretend their still Senior as status is one of the so called problems !!" I would have to agree with this. There are 6/7 teams way ahead of the rest of the teams in Senior. There's also not much of a gap between the others and the top 4 teams of Intermediate and would therefore be competitive games across all games if there were to be Senior A, Senior B and Intermediate structure to the championship. Would also mean Navan would be playing Third tier championship after only being Senior last year, a shame how far they've fallen behind even to the Top Intermediate teams.
Also, No Club Hurling Team of Week this week? Always interesting to see who's playing consistently well across the county when it's not possible to get across to all games in a weekend.
ClashofAsh85 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 08/10/2021 16:46:06
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last round of group games and still all to play for, some teams under pressure in both groups,
Ratoath V Longwood
Ratoath win by 8 and progress to semi final.
Trim V Na Fianna
Massive game for the current champions, must win game or they are out, Na Fianna will know that a loss could put them out, if they lose and Kiltale beat Kildalkey Na Fianna lose out on the head to head with Trim.
Draw game
Kildalkey V Kiltale
Kildalkey have showed some very very good signs but are failing to close out games, Kiltale looked very ordinary in second half against 14 man Ratoath but know that anything other than a win and they could be eliminated. Either team are capable of shining on the day and winning by a decent margin but I see Kildalkey wanting to keep it tight to try secure a passage to the semi final and Kiltale having to go all out, will be an interesting contest.
Kiltale by 1
Dunboyne V Kilmessan
Dunboyne are through but the result here decides who goes with them, Kilmessan need a result to qualify, a loss will almost definitely see Killyon through. Not sure Kilmessan have enough to get over the line here.
Dunboyne by 4
Killyon V Wolfe Tones
Tones to drop,
Killyon by 12 and qualify.
Athboy V BHG
The only dead rubber game in the championship this weekend. I expected more from both teams but they failed to get going really.
BHG by 4
StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 14/10/2021 09:36:34
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Trim v Na Fianna : Trim by 4
Kiltale v Kildalkey: Kiltale by 2
Ratoath v Longwood: Ratoath by 12
Kilmessan v Dunboyne: Kilmessan by 1
Killyon v Wolfe Tones: Killyon by 10
BHG V Athboy : Athboy by 3
dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 767 - 14/10/2021 20:42:20
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Ratoath v longwood
Ratoath win
Trim v na fianna
Na fianna win
Kildalkey v kiltale
Draw
Kilmessan v Dunboyne
Kilmessan win
Killyon v tones
Killyon win
Black hall v CNG
Cng win
Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 15/10/2021 11:28:12
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Ratoath v longwood - Healy showing why he is one of the best in the county. Hopefully can influence the county side more this year. Ratoaths squad got them over the line but the result was never really in doubt.
I can see them going all the way this time.
Trim v na fianna: Was a good game for trim as they really started to gel a bit more and the final score was not a true reflection of the game as Na fianna had two late goals to take the shine off the champions first decent performance since the final.
Trim could be dark horses again as starting to get their heads down again and should have too much for dunboyne and wont fear kildalkey although both sides have a point to prove after last years semifinal madness.
Kildalkey v kiltale - Battle of the heavyweights. Was always going to come down to a point or two. Expect Kiltale to blow Killyon away and then its a case of the wanabe champs going up against the best team of the past decade.
Kilmessan v Dunboyne - Unfortunate for kilmessan but the keenas can only do so much. need a boost of youth soon or inter ranks will be coming in next couple of years.
Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 19/10/2021 08:50:50
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Replying To Irish_downunder: "Ratoath v longwood - Healy showing why he is one of the best in the county. Hopefully can influence the county side more this year. Ratoaths squad got them over the line but the result was never really in doubt.
I can see them going all the way this time.
Trim v na fianna: Was a good game for trim as they really started to gel a bit more and the final score was not a true reflection of the game as Na fianna had two late goals to take the shine off the champions first decent performance since the final.
Trim could be dark horses again as starting to get their heads down again and should have too much for dunboyne and wont fear kildalkey although both sides have a point to prove after last years semifinal madness.
Kildalkey v kiltale - Battle of the heavyweights. Was always going to come down to a point or two. Expect Kiltale to blow Killyon away and then its a case of the wanabe champs going up against the best team of the past decade.
Kilmessan v Dunboyne - Unfortunate for kilmessan but the keenas can only do so much. need a boost of youth soon or inter ranks will be coming in next couple of years." Kilmessan will be another few years in senior B might get odd QF but seems like they will have to wait for juveniles to come threw.
If kiltale get over Killyon they could yet get there hands back on the Jubilee, Longwood were winning the whole way threw there game until last 15 mins you would wonder how the hell they competed so well in last two games, great see Healy injury free be big boost to Meath having him back to his best always said best player his generation.
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been a while since i commented here, so the championship come down to the to business end, who will prevail, can Dunboyne or killyon cause upset ? not sure here, will Kildalkey get revenge on trim, can ratoath handle the heavy schedule if they continue in the football, could be a big ask, likewise trim,
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Replying To pixey: "been a while since i commented here, so the championship come down to the to business end, who will prevail, can Dunboyne or killyon cause upset ? not sure here, will Kildalkey get revenge on trim, can ratoath handle the heavy schedule if they continue in the football, could be a big ask, likewise trim," Ah Ratoath I reckon , once injuries don't come into play as you say wit the additional games in FC .
RogerRabbit (Meath) - Posts: 46 - 20/10/2021 14:48:40
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Very hard pick a winner in the hurling which can only be a good thing.
The strong group finished very tight , only 2 points from 1st to 5th place , proves that its competitive and in any other year longwood would have picked up points which would have made it even tighter.
hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 424 - 20/10/2021 15:52:26
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Replying To RogerRabbit: "Ah Ratoath I reckon , once injuries don't come into play as you say wit the additional games in FC ." Trim will probably have the same type of run-in as Ratoath for both hurling and football.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 22/10/2021 12:14:53
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