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No official linesman and a referee from Louth today in pairc tailteann for a clash of the last two county champions? Is hurling in Meath in that bad of a state? Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 171 - 19/09/2021 15:47:51 2381628 Link
made it to two games over the weeknd 1 standard of refs is shocking - frees the second there is contact / noise 2 no linesman / umpires with them at senior champ is a disgrace What is wrong with letting the game flow? constant stopping for nothing tackles making free takers look like kings hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 424 - 20/09/2021 09:52:17 2381779 Link
Replying To hurlit: "made it to two games over the weeknd 1 standard of refs is shocking - frees the second there is contact / noise 2 no linesman / umpires with them at senior champ is a disgrace What is wrong with letting the game flow? constant stopping for nothing tackles making free takers look like kings" What would you suggest is the fix?? The abuse some of these guys get is woeful. There's a serious lack of refs coming through especially ex players. And could you blame them. I was at a games yesterday and Saturday and anything the ref wasn't called wasn't worth calling him in both games. How can you improve reffing when they just get abused into the ground and back out. That won't encourage lads to take it up. Woodbutcher (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 20/09/2021 12:16:51 2381821 Link
Replying To Woodbutcher: "What would you suggest is the fix?? The abuse some of these guys get is woeful. There's a serious lack of refs coming through especially ex players. And could you blame them. I was at a games yesterday and Saturday and anything the ref wasn't called wasn't worth calling him in both games. How can you improve reffing when they just get abused into the ground and back out. That won't encourage lads to take it up." Every club seems to have a few clowns who get their kicks from abusing officials. The same ones would run a mile if you asked them to do the line or be an umpire themselves. showforit (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 20/09/2021 12:52:56 2381831 Link
Replying To showforit: "Every club seems to have a few clowns who get their kicks from abusing officials. The same ones would run a mile if you asked them to do the line or be an umpire themselves." To be fair .. all referees are meant to bring umpires with them for every game never mind championship games. For senior games the county board assign linesman for example in kiltale on Saturday there was 2 neutral referees that done the line which is what you should have for every senior championship match. I do think some referees not all , need to buck up regarding bringing at LEAST 2 neutral umpires . That should be minimum. But county board have a lot to answer for when it comes to linesman. Ratoath v Ashbourne in the intermediate Sunday morning in Dunshaughlin, the referee brought 4 neutral umpires and Dunshaughlin supplied 2 linesman. A small bit of organisation goes a long way and it worked perfectly. Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 20/09/2021 14:27:18 2381863 Link
Replying To Joe_soap1: "To be fair .. all referees are meant to bring umpires with them for every game never mind championship games. For senior games the county board assign linesman for example in kiltale on Saturday there was 2 neutral referees that done the line which is what you should have for every senior championship match. I do think some referees not all , need to buck up regarding bringing at LEAST 2 neutral umpires . That should be minimum. But county board have a lot to answer for when it comes to linesman. Ratoath v Ashbourne in the intermediate Sunday morning in Dunshaughlin, the referee brought 4 neutral umpires and Dunshaughlin supplied 2 linesman. A small bit of organisation goes a long way and it worked perfectly." 2 should be a minimum but if that's all they bring they should only get half the match fee. Full match fee for 4 umpires. But it's the same as my last post they probably can't get lads cause of the abuse they get from all the great refs that are up on the hills and in the stands. Woodbutcher (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 20/09/2021 17:15:03 2381910 Link
There's a desperate shortage of hurling referees at the minute, with some refs having to do several games per day because we can't even average one ref per game. Yet lads think the solution to this is to cut the money paid to referees and demand 3 referees per game..... CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 21/09/2021 10:38:54 2381994 Link
Replying To CastleBravo: "There's a desperate shortage of hurling referees at the minute, with some refs having to do several games per day because we can't even average one ref per game. Yet lads think the solution to this is to cut the money paid to referees and demand 3 referees per game....." There's no shortage of hurling or football referees. The administrator won't give them games. Some referees doing 3 games over the weekend others doing no games. It's the same week in week out. Why do you think so many referees walked away from it this year. Because they were not getting games. or being sent an hours drive to do a junior2 game then getting there and another referee being there as well. Outside referees coming in with no umpires with them. week in week out. If these lads are so good why are they not in demand in their own county's. latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 21/09/2021 14:19:56 2382073 Link
Replying To latouche25: "There's no shortage of hurling or football referees. The administrator won't give them games. Some referees doing 3 games over the weekend others doing no games. It's the same week in week out. Why do you think so many referees walked away from it this year. Because they were not getting games. or being sent an hours drive to do a junior2 game then getting there and another referee being there as well. Outside referees coming in with no umpires with them. week in week out. If these lads are so good why are they not in demand in their own county's." I agree fully with previous post, outside refs no umpires, some refs in the county not getting games, look at the list of hurling refs in the last round and see who had no games, maybe some are not available but there are some refs who have had no games yet in championship. Cronyism at its best, bit of a joke now, local refs getting 2 games outside refs doing some of the bigger games, great encouragement to be a referee then to top it all off they get abuse that is beyond any reason, last Sunday in Navan was as bad i have seen from outside the wire, supporters take a look at yourselves. StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 21/09/2021 17:24:57 2382117 Link
Replying To latouche25: "There's no shortage of hurling or football referees. The administrator won't give them games. Some referees doing 3 games over the weekend others doing no games. It's the same week in week out. Why do you think so many referees walked away from it this year. Because they were not getting games. or being sent an hours drive to do a junior2 game then getting there and another referee being there as well. Outside referees coming in with no umpires with them. week in week out. If these lads are so good why are they not in demand in their own county's." truth Theheinoking (Meath) - Posts: 128 - 22/09/2021 09:35:01 2382238 Link
Replying To StickFan: "I agree fully with previous post, outside refs no umpires, some refs in the county not getting games, look at the list of hurling refs in the last round and see who had no games, maybe some are not available but there are some refs who have had no games yet in championship. Cronyism at its best, bit of a joke now, local refs getting 2 games outside refs doing some of the bigger games, great encouragement to be a referee then to top it all off they get abuse that is beyond any reason, last Sunday in Navan was as bad i have seen from outside the wire, supporters take a look at yourselves." couldn't agree more. Optics & lip service by those in charge of Refereeing in the County . And there can be no discussion or debate about the issue or the berlin wall of "ref bashing" is brought up. the reality is the standard , the support, the structure and the planning are all sub standard …..and its not the individuals fault who put themselves forward for games its the Ejits in charge again Saw an u13//14 Game recently...on a Friday night...where travelling Team mist have had to come 30 kilometres 9which is another story) and Referee, was a senior Referee , who himself must have travelled 20 ks barmy stuff Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 401 - 22/09/2021 11:00:24 2382272 Link
Any sign of fixtures for next round ? Always very slow with realesing the fixtures when some teams could be playing during the week. Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 23/09/2021 11:51:52 2382509 Link
Replying To Joe_soap1: "Any sign of fixtures for next round ? Always very slow with realesing the fixtures when some teams could be playing during the week." saw them this morning Kiltale v Ratoath Sunday 3rd Oct Pairc T 3pm Kiltale by 2 Na Fianna V Kildalkey Saturday 2nd Trim 5.30pm Draw Trim v Longwood Sunday 3rd Boardsmill 4.30pm Trim by 12 CNG v Kilmessan Sunday 3rd Kildalkey 1pm Kilmessan by 8 BHG V Killyon Saturday 3rd Rathmolyon 5.30pm Killyon by 3 Tones V Dunboyne Saturday 2nd Athboy 5.30pm Dunboyne by 15 StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 23/09/2021 12:30:21 2382521 Link
Replying To StickFan: "saw them this morning Kiltale v Ratoath Sunday 3rd Oct Pairc T 3pm Kiltale by 2 Na Fianna V Kildalkey Saturday 2nd Trim 5.30pm Draw Trim v Longwood Sunday 3rd Boardsmill 4.30pm Trim by 12 CNG v Kilmessan Sunday 3rd Kildalkey 1pm Kilmessan by 8 BHG V Killyon Saturday 3rd Rathmolyon 5.30pm Killyon by 3 Tones V Dunboyne Saturday 2nd Athboy 5.30pm Dunboyne by 15" Anything for IHC? RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 23/09/2021 20:59:23 2382644 Link
wolfe tones v dunboyne surely Kilmessan is the place for this? bringing both teams away instead of too each other. kildalkey v na fianna maybe a longwood game? Athboy v kilmessan should be in Trim definitley. athboy 3 miles from kildalkey, kilmessan 14miles. you would wonder sometimes. and the fascination of playing the same clubs in navan all the time, i think kildalkey went 2 years without getting a game outside of navan. why is this? whats wrong with athboy for kildalkey v trim last sunday or boardsmill? dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 767 - 23/09/2021 21:38:05 2382653 Link
Replying To dickie10: "wolfe tones v dunboyne surely Kilmessan is the place for this? bringing both teams away instead of too each other. kildalkey v na fianna maybe a longwood game? Athboy v kilmessan should be in Trim definitley. athboy 3 miles from kildalkey, kilmessan 14miles. you would wonder sometimes. and the fascination of playing the same clubs in navan all the time, i think kildalkey went 2 years without getting a game outside of navan. why is this? whats wrong with athboy for kildalkey v trim last sunday or boardsmill?" On the money here Dickie. Same sh#t different day. Some clubs have have a huge influence behind the doors of the county board. Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 23/09/2021 23:36:30 2382675 Link
Replying To StickFan: "saw them this morning Kiltale v Ratoath Sunday 3rd Oct Pairc T 3pm Kiltale by 2 Na Fianna V Kildalkey Saturday 2nd Trim 5.30pm Draw Trim v Longwood Sunday 3rd Boardsmill 4.30pm Trim by 12 CNG v Kilmessan Sunday 3rd Kildalkey 1pm Kilmessan by 8 BHG V Killyon Saturday 3rd Rathmolyon 5.30pm Killyon by 3 Tones V Dunboyne Saturday 2nd Athboy 5.30pm Dunboyne by 15" Next round: This round very important for some clubs , some must wins. I reckon a lot of these games will only be 2/3 point wins maybe a few draws. Some good games to look forward to. Kiltale v ratoath Draw Na fianna v kildalkey Na fianna Trim v longwood Trim win Cng v Kilmessan Kilmessan win Black hall v killyon Draw Tones v Dunboyne Dunboyne win Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 25/09/2021 11:56:03 2382845 Link
Have to hand it to Longwood down players and after taken some heavy defeats they put in massive effort against the champions and almost came up trumps, they was one occasion in the game when one there players got injured and Damien Healy took control and started making positional changes and made the sub i thought he was over stepping his mark a bit but then found out after the game they don't have a manager and Damien and Karl Ennis are joint managers that takes some leadership from both players and shows how much respect the players have for each other. Anthony Healy for Wood and James Murray Trim were excellent. I hope longwood come back next year Slimbob (Meath) - Posts: 26 - 05/10/2021 14:45:06 2384498 Link
Replying To Slimbob: "Have to hand it to Longwood down players and after taken some heavy defeats they put in massive effort against the champions and almost came up trumps, they was one occasion in the game when one there players got injured and Damien Healy took control and started making positional changes and made the sub i thought he was over stepping his mark a bit but then found out after the game they don't have a manager and Damien and Karl Ennis are joint managers that takes some leadership from both players and shows how much respect the players have for each other. Anthony Healy for Wood and James Murray Trim were excellent. I hope longwood come back next year" unreal set of men have served the club for last 10-15 years ...not casting any shadows over previous generations, or those still to come in making that statement Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 401 - 05/10/2021 17:23:40 2384526 Link
Replying To Slimbob: "Have to hand it to Longwood down players and after taken some heavy defeats they put in massive effort against the champions and almost came up trumps, they was one occasion in the game when one there players got injured and Damien Healy took control and started making positional changes and made the sub i thought he was over stepping his mark a bit but then found out after the game they don't have a manager and Damien and Karl Ennis are joint managers that takes some leadership from both players and shows how much respect the players have for each other. Anthony Healy for Wood and James Murray Trim were excellent. I hope longwood come back next year" I notice you listed both free takers as being excellent. I was at the game, my god something needs to change soon or Meath hurling is going nowhere, free after free after free, and it was not a dirty game!!!!!!! Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 171 - 05/10/2021 18:34:39 2384535 Link