Replying To Borderroyal:  "Have to disagree kk.
So ur saying that hes good manager.
I think its hit and miss here with him.
No good manager lets goalie situation ramble on like it has.
No freetaker.very poor discipline on the line at times.looks to rule with fear to me.
Lots of posts here saying we only got better after changing s/c.so fitter means better?
Where is our tactical nous gone or coming from.
Find it hard to believe in him to be honest.few names could form maybd a team to move us forward.
Paul curran davey nelson colm orourke
Malachy orourke graham geraghty."

Replying To Kingkeegan:  "I never said that. I will keep it simple. Andy is a good manager doing a good job. I don't think any other manager would have kept us in div 1. We had an injury crisis last spring. We don't have the forwards others division 1 teams have. We had class forwards 10 to 15 years ago. But we are lacking real quality upfront. Put Paul Mannion and Paddy McBreaty into this team and we would be in the top 5 or 6 in the country. Our full forward line on Sunday was Wallace, Sullivan, and Morris. Morris is a poacher, who is real prospect, but still 21 and learning his trade. He has been excellent so far. Sullivan is a wing forward. A small pacey player. Wallace is a small pacey player, while exciting at times, against physical defence and sweepers, he will struggle. Newman is clearly not fully fit and recovering from a massive operation. The best forward we have who can kick long range points is Shane Walsh but he is first 20 so very young, and is injured. We need two or three of these young players to really turn into top class forwards in the coming years. Morris is the real deal, but he needs support. Shane Walsh and James Conlon have potential, but both are developing. Young Frayne of the minors looks a real prospect, but he is so young and you just know how a player will develop. Until we find two more top class forwards, whoever is managing has one of his hands tied behind his back. If we had another two top class forwards we would have beaten Galway, Mayo, kerry and Monaghan in the past year and would have beaten kildare a few weeks ago.

Andy is the best manager and most sucessful Meath manager of his generation. The morale is good in the camp. The players look motivated and driven, that wasn't the case for a long time. People forget the shambles performances v Westmeath in 2015 or Louth on 2012 and another 20 performance I could list, we have seen from Meath since 2002.

McGeeney is in his 7th year this year and only this year you can see huge progress. He had Armagh in div 3 for years and he didn't win championship match in Ulster in his first five years as manager. But Armagh believed he was best man for the job and Armagh are in now in div 1 two years in a row. McGeeney is 8 years manager next year and was selector before that. McGeeney is 10/11 years involved with this Armagh team. Outside the county many people believe Andy McEntee is doing a good job and many in the county do also. Andy is doing a good job, he is good manager who could even become a great manager. Given him another 2 years is not going to end Meath football. It could be the turning point for Meath football. Hickey, Costellos, Walsh, Morris are responding brillantly to him. Let him continue to develop them and other talents like Frayne and Caulfield of the minors.

Final point, people keep talking about this outside manager thats going to improve us. But they don't name any names. It's just a brillant outside manager, but never do they say who this manager is. Name these brilliant managers who are out there waiting to take over the Meath job?. Jimmy McGuinnes and Stephen Rochford are not coming to Meath, there is a bigger chance of Jurgen klopp coming to Meath. The reason they don't name any managers is because this brillant manager doesn't exist. McEntee leaves, the candidates for the job are very average. That's why they cannot name the manager who will take over, because it will be manager who has average CV and possibly worse manager than maybe Mick O Dowd. If you think Meath should bring an outside manager, name the candidates that you think would be realistic options who would be genuinely interested in the job. You will find if you make a list of 5 or 6 candidates. You will see Dublin or a kerry of even kildare wouldn't touch these managers with barge pole. It is not credible to talk about manager and not naming who you want brought in. It's not the proper way to run any organisation. Who are these brillant managers who are real genuine options to take over from McEntee. No one ever names them, because if they nqme the managers who are in line for the job, they are managers with worse CVs than current manager, they are worse managers than current manager, there argument looks ridiculous. That's why they don't name managers to take over McEntee. It's managers like Jimmy McGuinness, Jose Mourihno will take over the Meath job quicker than Jimmy McGuinness. There is group of managers that are on the div 2, div 3 manager merry go around, that's are the candidates we are looking. If you talk about this brillant manager but don't name any names, your not being credible. I am Man Utd soccer fan. I want Ole gone because he is out of his depth. But I know manages like Conte, Brendan Rodgers, Allergi are managers who would be better option than Ole. I would love Conte to take over Utd. I am Meath fan, I think the manager is doing a very job under circumstances. But I also know if he left there is lack of quality managers to come in.

Andy McEntee is doing a good job, is a good manager and could even become a great manager. He will be manager next year, that's a certainty. And if he gets promotion next year he will be manager in 2023. Andy has critics, but he also has allot of support in the county. If you want to get rid of the manager, you need most of the support to turn against manager. McEntee has support in the county. And if we get good performance v Dublin, it will only cemeten his grip on the Meath job for the foreseeable future."

Replying To redser123:  "Finally someone talking some sense, Brilliant post @Kingkeegan although you did lose me a bit at the soccer analogy, Andy is doing a fine Job and I totally agree there is some exciting minors that he will get soon in Eoghan Frayne, Sean Emmanuel, Ciaran Caulfield, Conor Gray hopefully even more, add them with the likes of Cathal Hickey (Who might be our best player right now and hes still under 20) Matthew Costello, shane walsh etc and the future looks bright to me, some of the criticism on Andy is absolutely hilarious, i think he's doing a really good job given the circumstances,"

Replying To redser123:  "Finally someone talking some sense, Brilliant post @Kingkeegan although you did lose me a bit at the soccer analogy, Andy is doing a fine Job and I totally agree there is some exciting minors that he will get soon in Eoghan Frayne, Sean Emmanuel, Ciaran Caulfield, Conor Gray hopefully even more, add them with the likes of Cathal Hickey (Who might be our best player right now and hes still under 20) Matthew Costello, shane walsh etc and the future looks bright to me, some of the criticism on Andy is absolutely hilarious, i think he's doing a really good job given the circumstances,"

Replying To brian:  "Redser can i ask you what that last bit means about i think he's doing a really good job given the circumstances,? I'm not sure what that means? What circumstances are you talking about with that? You're saying a lot without saying anything at the same time.

I'm not trying to have a go at you just trying to tease out the point for discussion as I think its worthy of further chat."

Replying To 2ndCounty:  "1. Comerford
2. Mick Fitzsimons
3.David Byrne
4. Johnny Cooper
5. James McCarthy
6. Brian Howard
7. Tom Lahiff
8. Brian Fenton
9. POCB
10.Sean Bugler
11. Ciaran Kilkenny
12.Niall Scully
13. Paddy Small
14. Con O'Callaghan
15. Dean Rock

Thats the team I reckon you'll have to beat

Certainly not near as daunting as years gone by"

Replying To seadog54:  "Your right, on paper they look less formidable, however it took us 30 minutes to get to grips with Longford and we failed to turn up in our most important match against Kildare, add in the two recent beatings in Leinster Finals and we are still in a bad place. No matter what team Dublin name, they maintain the higest standards game after game. I am more worried about our self inflicted faults than Dublin, only when they are addressed can we hope to compete with the best."

Replying To redser123:  "Brian of course happy to debate,

We have done it tough with injuries I know every team deals with it but it feels like we have done it particularly tough, Shane Walsh done his knee, Ronan Jones Fractured his Collar bone, Michael Newman has a hip problem that means he cant contribute like he used to, hopefully he can get right, I would say its bad luck in a county where we have no great forwards at the moment that 2 of our best are injured, We don't have any decent free takers in meath right now, thats not on Andy that's just a fact we don't have any, Debate and warranted criticism is fine, but there is no logic to half the rubbish posted in here,

Can i swing the question to you, what exactly has andy done so horribly wrong? dont give me the rubbish about free taking and goalkeeper where he has tried everything, or a funny one i have read is some people say his side line demeanor is out of order,

I actually really like where this team is heading, I'm not a senchelstown man but Cathal Hickey might be my favorite player to watch right now and Fionn Reilly, Matthew Costello and Jack O'Connor are players we should be really excited about, Give Andy time and i think we have some really talented Minors coming through, Eoghan Frayne is the real deal, Sean Emannuel and Conor Gray are dominating midfield, hopefully from the under 20's Aaron Lynch and Luke Mitchell come through next year and a few others

I think its worth reading what King keegan said about mcgeeney again

"McGeeney is in his 7th year this year and only this year you can see huge progress. He had Armagh in div 3 for years and he didn't win championship match in Ulster in his first five years as manager. But Armagh believed he was best man for the job and Armagh are in now in div 1 two years in a row. McGeeney is 8 years manager next year and was selector before that. McGeeney is 10/11 years involved with this Armagh team. Outside the county many people believe Andy McEntee is doing a good job and many in the county do also. Andy is doing a good job, he is good manager who could even become a great manager. Given him another 2 years is not going to end Meath football.""

Replying To brian:  "Some good names there Border.

I'd add jason Sherlock, Declan Darcy, Mick Deegan, Davy Byrne, Paul Clarke, Tom Gray (Dublin U20's) and Mick Bohan (Dublin ladies) to the list

Now i don't imagine for a second any of these will happen, Andy's place was cemented the moment Bernard Flynn stepped away. However all of these people above have been involved with or are involved with multiple all ireland winning teams. People keep asking for names of potential candidates well there's a whole batch of them. No doubt they'll all be rejected cos "they are Dubs" but we need to adapt a growth mindset and stop living off the past and being so small minded in our outlook. Its 22 years since we won an all ireland and 20 since we were in a final and we're not even close to being at that standard if we keep closing doors off. Five years in and Andy hasn't won a thing. Even if he was retained but some of these people were brought in to assist him it would help improve standards, but I don't feel he's the type of person who'd want anyone questioning him.

I fear that in time the likes of the younger players will start walking away ala Donal Lenihan when they start to ask questions and we'll be in the same rinse repeat cycle we've been in since 2011."

Replying To Kingkeegan:  "Let's look at the list of brillant managers NOT who people want to take over from a Meath sucessful MANAGER, and manager is the most important word here. I said we would taken on inexperienced unproven manager if Andy leaves, and the list of unproven inexperienced managers people is what want it seems. Sligo have Tony McEntee an All Ireland winning club manager, Kildare have 5 time ( 3 senior, 1 minor, 1 schools) All Ireland winning manager, Louth have 5 time All Ireland winning manager ( 3 senior, 1 minor, 1 under 21), even Wicklow have an All Ireland winning manager with Davy Burke who won under 20 All Ireland recently. If you pick names that have been listed above it would mean louth, Sligo and Wicklow, div 4 teams would have managers with better cvs than ours. Let's look at what top Counties have as their manager, than let's look at the inexperienced unproven managers that people expect to improve us.

Kerry have keane who won 3 minor All Irelands as manager. Mayo have James Horan who got Mayo to 2 All Ireland finals and won 5 Connacht titles. Donegal have Bonnar who managed Donegal senior team to Ulster final before and managed All Ireland minor Donegal finalist team. His assistant Rochford managed an All Ireland club winning team and Mayo to 2 All Ireland senior finals. Dublin have Farrell who managed Dublin to minor and Under 21 All Irelands. Monaghan have Banty who is Ex Monaghan senior manager for men and the ladies. He took Monaghan seniors fron division 4 to division 1. He also managed Meath seniors. And Monaghan minors to an Ulster title. Kieran McGeeney managed kildare seniors for 7 years and had them in q finals and div 1. Anthony Cunningham managed Galway under 21 hurlers to 2 All Irelands, managed Galway hurlers senior to 2 All Ireland finals and managed Garycastle to an All Ireland senior club final. And you have Jack O Connor who will be in div 1 next year, he managed kerry to 3 senior All Ireland titles, managed kerry to minor All Ireland title, managed his school to All Ireland school title. And was involved with Paudi O Se All Ireland winning teams at senior and under 21. Lohan and Dooher managed Tyrone to an under 21 All Ireland winning title.

They are Division 1 managers. Guess what we have division 1 manager. We get to division 1 for the first time in 13 years, our manager has the same cv as other division 1 managers. Andy McEntee managed a team to win senior All Ireland club title and Meath minors to All Ireland final. Division 1 managers have eitheir won All Irelands as manager at club, senior, underage or at least got to an All Ireland final. Or have inter County managerial experience. Andy ticks the box. But the list of candidates people said will be better have no inter County managerial experience have no All Ireland titles as manager, they have no or little as manager at any level most of them. They are not managers. Its basically anyone associated with the current Dublin team. I am expecting the Dublin kit man or the guy that drives the Dublin bud to matchs to be named as candidate to manage Meath next. If you get your picture taking with Sam Maguire and your from Dublin, it's nearly good enough to manage Meath these days. Andy and managers in div 1 and div 4 have better cvs than some of these candidates want to manage us. They are unproven inexperienced MANAGERS. They are not MANAGERS.

let's look at this list
Mick Deegan has No inter County management experience no All Ireland titles as manager. No titles as manager, even at club as far as I can see. He currently manages Asbhourne. Most people would say Ashbourne are underachieving. And I have seen Ashbourne under Deegan, and the football is dreadful. But because he was involved in Dublin backroom team he is better manager than Andy, not. Andy has a better CV is a better manager than Mick Deegan. Mick Deegan is unproven and inexperienced manager at this level. No top team would consider such candidates as manager. Kildare wouldn't.
Jason Sherlock, again no inter County manager experience no All Ireland winning managed team. No sucess as manager even as club level as far as I can see. He managed Dublin minors. That team was beaten by Wicklow and Meath didn't even get to leinster minor final. He was a coach, but there is a big difference between coach and manager. Big difference. They say good coach, don't make good managers. Maybe Sherlock is a good manager. We don't know. He has never managed a team successfully at high level Andy McEntee has better CV than Sherlock.

Naming someone from Dublin backroom team, doesn't mean they are good manager. We don't know what they were doing, what input they had. They aren't the manager. If you want Jim Galvin or Pat Gilroy as manager, good. But they wouldn't take the Meath job. But picking someone off his backroom team, kerry wouldn't, neither would Tyrone or Donegal, even kildare wouldn't.
Declan D'Arcy, again no managerial experience of what I know of, definitely no inter County managers experience or managing a team to an All Ireland final or title. No sucess at club level as far as I can see. Andy has a better CV.
Paul Clarke, again no inter County managerial experience or managing team to All Ireland title or final. No managerial sucess at club as far as I can see. Again Andy has a better CV. Again another unproven inexperienced manager.
Paul Curran, again no inter County managerial experience or All Ireland managing title or to final. I think he has managed Ballymun. Don't know if he won County title. I don't think so. If he did he would have the same CV as Mick O Dowd. Again unproven manager at this level. Andy has better CV.
Davy Nelson a Meath man. But no inter County experience managing at senior or minor or under 20 and has not managed All Ireland winning team or to final or even a team to a leinster final at senior or underage. He managed Navan to County title, I think. Which means he has the same CV as Mick O Dowd, More experience at club level. Again another unproven inexperienced manager at this level.
Davy Byrne managed a team to the Meath senior title. Same as Mick O Dowd. Again no inter county experience, no All Ireland title no leinster at any level as manager. Andy has a better cv and currently better manager.
Mick Bohan is Dublin ladies manager he won All Ireland titles with the ladies. But still we are talking mens football. He has no inter County experience at this level, no All Ireland title or leinster title or even maybe even a county title at mens football. No manager has moved solely from the ladies game and became successful manager in man's name. Cork manager who was the greatest ladies manager. Was involved with Cork seniors as selector. Just selector. He was the most successful ladies manager ever and Cork brought him as selector not manager. Because he was unproven inexperienced in the men's game. Roscommon looked at Bohan but picked Cunningham. Why? Cunningham is an All.Ireland hurling winning manager and who brought a football club to an All Ireland senior club final in the men's game.
Tom Gray has won provicial titles and got Dubs to under 20 final. At long last someone who has CV worth looking at. Again does he want the Meath job. And if he is smart he will wait til Dublin job comes up. But Andy McEntee has better CV overall with club senior All Ireland title and Minor team in an All Ireland final.
That's brings the list of candidates who have little or no managerial experience but because they are part of Dublin backroom team, they are considered good enough to manage us. We are looking for a manager. A successful manager.

Other name mentioned is Graham Geraghty. Again unproven inexperienced manager. No inter County experience no County titles. Two names that actually are credible are the two O Rourkes. At 62, it very unlikely Colm O Rourke will ever manage Meath. He has had 7 chances since Boylan left to take the job, but whatever reason he didn't. That ship looks like it has sailed. Malachy O Rourke is a credible candidate. Has has managerial experience at Inter County successfully. But Galway and kildare could have went for him, but didn't. And the rumour is he will be Downs manager next year. He is going to take over Down next year. So the only credible candidate for the job and Down have snapped him up.

I said if Andy leaves we will end up with inexperienced/ unproven manager. No Inter County manager with no record of managing teams successfully at high level in men's game or success at underage or club at All Ireland level, like Peter keane, like Dessie Farrell, like James Horan, like Banty, like Jack O Connor, like lohan and Dooher, like McGeeney, like Cunningham and like Andy McEntee. They are div 1 managers. We have one. He got us to division 1 for the first time in 13 years. We want to replace him with inexperienced unproven managers. That's who Andy McEntee replaced. Remember Mick O Dowd. People are listing members of backroom teams. Managers, we would be looking for a MANAGER if Andy leaves. Andy is a sucessful MANAGER with a sucessful MANAGERS cv. If he leaves we need to replace with MANAGERS with sucessful CVs. That's what kerry and Mayo do. That's what kildare. That's what even louth, Wicklow and Sligo do. We are eitheir a serious gaelic football County or not.

The good news Andy is will be manager next year. The question is not if he will be manager next year, the question is will he be given extension at the end of next year 2022. If we get promoted to div 1 or have a very good championship Andy will be given an extension. Andy is going nowhere next year. There is support for him in the county agmost the supporters. The morale is good agmost the players, all noises ftom the camp are good. And you just have to see how they respond to defeat to see its a happy camp, they are all fighting for the manager. County board want him to stay next year. We saw who they backed in the Flynn row. Andy will be manager next year. The Question is will he be given an extension next year. If we get promoted he will be given opportunity to manage the team in div 1 in 2023. He has done a good job. The way he is bringing on young players like Hickey and Morris and Costello, he is the best man to bring on our sucessful minors from this year. And I am not the only one who thinks this way. Andy has support of many in the county, the players and County board. Andy will be manager next year.

Good news for Meath football. Andy has done a good job and in my view is the best manager we have had since Boylan. He doesn't have particularly the forward talent other Meath managers had. Even Mick O Dowd had Stephen Bray and young Graham Reilly and Sheridan, Farrell and Ward. Sean had O Rourke, Stafford, Flynn, Giles, Geraghty, Dowd and Murphy. Managers after Sean had Geraghty, Two Brays, O Rourke, Ward, Sheridan, Farrell, Byrne and Reilly. If we had a young Tommy Dowd or Stephen Bray or Trevor Giles or Ollie Murphy the difference it would make would be unreal. Andy has been unlucky with injuries and no backdoor. This team would have done allot of damage in the backdoor. But overall he is a good manager doing a good job. Long may it continue. It will continue throughout 2022. At end of next year we will see if he is retained. I believe like many he is best man for the job. This my last word on the matter. Andy will be manager next year."

Replying To redser123:  "Brian of course happy to debate,

We have done it tough with injuries I know every team deals with it but it feels like we have done it particularly tough, Shane Walsh done his knee, Ronan Jones Fractured his Collar bone, Michael Newman has a hip problem that means he cant contribute like he used to, hopefully he can get right, I would say its bad luck in a county where we have no great forwards at the moment that 2 of our best are injured, We don't have any decent free takers in meath right now, thats not on Andy that's just a fact we don't have any, Debate and warranted criticism is fine, but there is no logic to half the rubbish posted in here,

Can i swing the question to you, what exactly has andy done so horribly wrong? dont give me the rubbish about free taking and goalkeeper where he has tried everything, or a funny one i have read is some people say his side line demeanor is out of order,

I actually really like where this team is heading, I'm not a senchelstown man but Cathal Hickey might be my favorite player to watch right now and Fionn Reilly, Matthew Costello and Jack O'Connor are players we should be really excited about, Give Andy time and i think we have some really talented Minors coming through, Eoghan Frayne is the real deal, Sean Emannuel and Conor Gray are dominating midfield, hopefully from the under 20's Aaron Lynch and Luke Mitchell come through next year and a few others

I think its worth reading what King keegan said about mcgeeney again

"McGeeney is in his 7th year this year and only this year you can see huge progress. He had Armagh in div 3 for years and he didn't win championship match in Ulster in his first five years as manager. But Armagh believed he was best man for the job and Armagh are in now in div 1 two years in a row. McGeeney is 8 years manager next year and was selector before that. McGeeney is 10/11 years involved with this Armagh team. Outside the county many people believe Andy McEntee is doing a good job and many in the county do also. Andy is doing a good job, he is good manager who could even become a great manager. Given him another 2 years is not going to end Meath football.""

Replying To Kingkeegan:  "Let's look at the list of brillant managers NOT who people want to take over from a Meath sucessful MANAGER, and manager is the most important word here. I said we would taken on inexperienced unproven manager if Andy leaves, and the list of unproven inexperienced managers people is what want it seems. Sligo have Tony McEntee an All Ireland winning club manager, Kildare have 5 time ( 3 senior, 1 minor, 1 schools) All Ireland winning manager, Louth have 5 time All Ireland winning manager ( 3 senior, 1 minor, 1 under 21), even Wicklow have an All Ireland winning manager with Davy Burke who won under 20 All Ireland recently. If you pick names that have been listed above it would mean louth, Sligo and Wicklow, div 4 teams would have managers with better cvs than ours. Let's look at what top Counties have as their manager, than let's look at the inexperienced unproven managers that people expect to improve us.

Kerry have keane who won 3 minor All Irelands as manager. Mayo have James Horan who got Mayo to 2 All Ireland finals and won 5 Connacht titles. Donegal have Bonnar who managed Donegal senior team to Ulster final before and managed All Ireland minor Donegal finalist team. His assistant Rochford managed an All Ireland club winning team and Mayo to 2 All Ireland senior finals. Dublin have Farrell who managed Dublin to minor and Under 21 All Irelands. Monaghan have Banty who is Ex Monaghan senior manager for men and the ladies. He took Monaghan seniors fron division 4 to division 1. He also managed Meath seniors. And Monaghan minors to an Ulster title. Kieran McGeeney managed kildare seniors for 7 years and had them in q finals and div 1. Anthony Cunningham managed Galway under 21 hurlers to 2 All Irelands, managed Galway hurlers senior to 2 All Ireland finals and managed Garycastle to an All Ireland senior club final. And you have Jack O Connor who will be in div 1 next year, he managed kerry to 3 senior All Ireland titles, managed kerry to minor All Ireland title, managed his school to All Ireland school title. And was involved with Paudi O Se All Ireland winning teams at senior and under 21. Lohan and Dooher managed Tyrone to an under 21 All Ireland winning title.

They are Division 1 managers. Guess what we have division 1 manager. We get to division 1 for the first time in 13 years, our manager has the same cv as other division 1 managers. Andy McEntee managed a team to win senior All Ireland club title and Meath minors to All Ireland final. Division 1 managers have eitheir won All Irelands as manager at club, senior, underage or at least got to an All Ireland final. Or have inter County managerial experience. Andy ticks the box. But the list of candidates people said will be better have no inter County managerial experience have no All Ireland titles as manager, they have no or little as manager at any level most of them. They are not managers. Its basically anyone associated with the current Dublin team. I am expecting the Dublin kit man or the guy that drives the Dublin bud to matchs to be named as candidate to manage Meath next. If you get your picture taking with Sam Maguire and your from Dublin, it's nearly good enough to manage Meath these days. Andy and managers in div 1 and div 4 have better cvs than some of these candidates want to manage us. They are unproven inexperienced MANAGERS. They are not MANAGERS.

let's look at this list
Mick Deegan has No inter County management experience no All Ireland titles as manager. No titles as manager, even at club as far as I can see. He currently manages Asbhourne. Most people would say Ashbourne are underachieving. And I have seen Ashbourne under Deegan, and the football is dreadful. But because he was involved in Dublin backroom team he is better manager than Andy, not. Andy has a better CV is a better manager than Mick Deegan. Mick Deegan is unproven and inexperienced manager at this level. No top team would consider such candidates as manager. Kildare wouldn't.
Jason Sherlock, again no inter County manager experience no All Ireland winning managed team. No sucess as manager even as club level as far as I can see. He managed Dublin minors. That team was beaten by Wicklow and Meath didn't even get to leinster minor final. He was a coach, but there is a big difference between coach and manager. Big difference. They say good coach, don't make good managers. Maybe Sherlock is a good manager. We don't know. He has never managed a team successfully at high level Andy McEntee has better CV than Sherlock.

Naming someone from Dublin backroom team, doesn't mean they are good manager. We don't know what they were doing, what input they had. They aren't the manager. If you want Jim Galvin or Pat Gilroy as manager, good. But they wouldn't take the Meath job. But picking someone off his backroom team, kerry wouldn't, neither would Tyrone or Donegal, even kildare wouldn't.
Declan D'Arcy, again no managerial experience of what I know of, definitely no inter County managers experience or managing a team to an All Ireland final or title. No sucess at club level as far as I can see. Andy has a better CV.
Paul Clarke, again no inter County managerial experience or managing team to All Ireland title or final. No managerial sucess at club as far as I can see. Again Andy has a better CV. Again another unproven inexperienced manager.
Paul Curran, again no inter County managerial experience or All Ireland managing title or to final. I think he has managed Ballymun. Don't know if he won County title. I don't think so. If he did he would have the same CV as Mick O Dowd. Again unproven manager at this level. Andy has better CV.
Davy Nelson a Meath man. But no inter County experience managing at senior or minor or under 20 and has not managed All Ireland winning team or to final or even a team to a leinster final at senior or underage. He managed Navan to County title, I think. Which means he has the same CV as Mick O Dowd, More experience at club level. Again another unproven inexperienced manager at this level.
Davy Byrne managed a team to the Meath senior title. Same as Mick O Dowd. Again no inter county experience, no All Ireland title no leinster at any level as manager. Andy has a better cv and currently better manager.
Mick Bohan is Dublin ladies manager he won All Ireland titles with the ladies. But still we are talking mens football. He has no inter County experience at this level, no All Ireland title or leinster title or even maybe even a county title at mens football. No manager has moved solely from the ladies game and became successful manager in man's name. Cork manager who was the greatest ladies manager. Was involved with Cork seniors as selector. Just selector. He was the most successful ladies manager ever and Cork brought him as selector not manager. Because he was unproven inexperienced in the men's game. Roscommon looked at Bohan but picked Cunningham. Why? Cunningham is an All.Ireland hurling winning manager and who brought a football club to an All Ireland senior club final in the men's game.
Tom Gray has won provicial titles and got Dubs to under 20 final. At long last someone who has CV worth looking at. Again does he want the Meath job. And if he is smart he will wait til Dublin job comes up. But Andy McEntee has better CV overall with club senior All Ireland title and Minor team in an All Ireland final.
That's brings the list of candidates who have little or no managerial experience but because they are part of Dublin backroom team, they are considered good enough to manage us. We are looking for a manager. A successful manager.

Other name mentioned is Graham Geraghty. Again unproven inexperienced manager. No inter County experience no County titles. Two names that actually are credible are the two O Rourkes. At 62, it very unlikely Colm O Rourke will ever manage Meath. He has had 7 chances since Boylan left to take the job, but whatever reason he didn't. That ship looks like it has sailed. Malachy O Rourke is a credible candidate. Has has managerial experience at Inter County successfully. But Galway and kildare could have went for him, but didn't. And the rumour is he will be Downs manager next year. He is going to take over Down next year. So the only credible candidate for the job and Down have snapped him up.

I said if Andy leaves we will end up with inexperienced/ unproven manager. No Inter County manager with no record of managing teams successfully at high level in men's game or success at underage or club at All Ireland level, like Peter keane, like Dessie Farrell, like James Horan, like Banty, like Jack O Connor, like lohan and Dooher, like McGeeney, like Cunningham and like Andy McEntee. They are div 1 managers. We have one. He got us to division 1 for the first time in 13 years. We want to replace him with inexperienced unproven managers. That's who Andy McEntee replaced. Remember Mick O Dowd. People are listing members of backroom teams. Managers, we would be looking for a MANAGER if Andy leaves. Andy is a sucessful MANAGER with a sucessful MANAGERS cv. If he leaves we need to replace with MANAGERS with sucessful CVs. That's what kerry and Mayo do. That's what kildare. That's what even louth, Wicklow and Sligo do. We are eitheir a serious gaelic football County or not.

The good news Andy is will be manager next year. The question is not if he will be manager next year, the question is will he be given extension at the end of next year 2022. If we get promoted to div 1 or have a very good championship Andy will be given an extension. Andy is going nowhere next year. There is support for him in the county agmost the supporters. The morale is good agmost the players, all noises ftom the camp are good. And you just have to see how they respond to defeat to see its a happy camp, they are all fighting for the manager. County board want him to stay next year. We saw who they backed in the Flynn row. Andy will be manager next year. The Question is will he be given an extension next year. If we get promoted he will be given opportunity to manage the team in div 1 in 2023. He has done a good job. The way he is bringing on young players like Hickey and Morris and Costello, he is the best man to bring on our sucessful minors from this year. And I am not the only one who thinks this way. Andy has support of many in the county, the players and County board. Andy will be manager next year.

Good news for Meath football. Andy has done a good job and in my view is the best manager we have had since Boylan. He doesn't have particularly the forward talent other Meath managers had. Even Mick O Dowd had Stephen Bray and young Graham Reilly and Sheridan, Farrell and Ward. Sean had O Rourke, Stafford, Flynn, Giles, Geraghty, Dowd and Murphy. Managers after Sean had Geraghty, Two Brays, O Rourke, Ward, Sheridan, Farrell, Byrne and Reilly. If we had a young Tommy Dowd or Stephen Bray or Trevor Giles or Ollie Murphy the difference it would make would be unreal. Andy has been unlucky with injuries and no backdoor. This team would have done allot of damage in the backdoor. But overall he is a good manager doing a good job. Long may it continue. It will continue throughout 2022. At end of next year we will see if he is retained. I believe like many he is best man for the job. This my last word on the matter. Andy will be manager next year."

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Replying To Kingkeegan:  "I am an Irish soccer fan. And I think Stephen Kenny is not up to the job and should go. I am Man Utd fan and I think Ole is out of his depth and should go. But the other team I support and my number 1 team is Meath. I am happy with the manager. I think he doing a good job. And I am not the only one. The way he works with Hickey, Costello, Harkin, Morris, Walsh and Conlon, the way they are playing out of their skins for him has impressed me greatly. They are the future of Meath football. And there is more talent coming through. The Under 20s have players like Oisin McCluskey and Luke Mitchell and minors like Eoghan Frayne, Conor Gray, Sean Emmanuel, Ciaran Caulfield and Liam Kelly are players with potential. Andy is the best to take them forward. I have seen young players come through with huge talent since Sean left and they didn't reach their potential. We have a manager who can get the best out these player, it makes sense to keep him. Our results, our performance, our consistency, our morale, our strength and conditioning, our fitness, our tactics have all improved under McEntee. He is the first manager to get us playing a modern possession game successfully. If we could get Cian McBride back next year, a fit Jones and Walsh, add Frayne to the panel. And one or two more under 20s, I believe we are well and able capable of beating of Roscommon or Cork or Galway. I firstly think we have better manager than all of them. And better defenders. And one or two forwards keep improving, we have a great chance of promotion. Derry and Offaly are beatable. We have beaten Clare 4 times in the last 4 year. Kildare have been beaten 3 times by Clare in the last 5 years. And we will be a tough team to beat in the backdoor also. There's no team in div 2, 3 or 4 we are not capable of beating. We lost to Fermamagh, Cavan, laois, Derry , Armagh and Limerick in the backdoor since 2001. Under McEntee there is not a team in div 2 3 or 4, we cannot beat. Since 2001 that has not been the case with only 2 decent runs in the backdoor eg 2007 and 2009. Bring Mayo or Donegal to Navan or any div 1 team, we are capable of beating them. Andy Mc is developing a good football team, who I think can only get better. My last word on the matter."

Replying To Kingkeegan:  "Let's look at the list of brillant managers NOT who people want to take over from a Meath sucessful MANAGER, and manager is the most important word here. I said we would taken on inexperienced unproven manager if Andy leaves, and the list of unproven inexperienced managers people is what want it seems. Sligo have Tony McEntee an All Ireland winning club manager, Kildare have 5 time ( 3 senior, 1 minor, 1 schools) All Ireland winning manager, Louth have 5 time All Ireland winning manager ( 3 senior, 1 minor, 1 under 21), even Wicklow have an All Ireland winning manager with Davy Burke who won under 20 All Ireland recently. If you pick names that have been listed above it would mean louth, Sligo and Wicklow, div 4 teams would have managers with better cvs than ours. Let's look at what top Counties have as their manager, than let's look at the inexperienced unproven managers that people expect to improve us.

Kerry have keane who won 3 minor All Irelands as manager. Mayo have James Horan who got Mayo to 2 All Ireland finals and won 5 Connacht titles. Donegal have Bonnar who managed Donegal senior team to Ulster final before and managed All Ireland minor Donegal finalist team. His assistant Rochford managed an All Ireland club winning team and Mayo to 2 All Ireland senior finals. Dublin have Farrell who managed Dublin to minor and Under 21 All Irelands. Monaghan have Banty who is Ex Monaghan senior manager for men and the ladies. He took Monaghan seniors fron division 4 to division 1. He also managed Meath seniors. And Monaghan minors to an Ulster title. Kieran McGeeney managed kildare seniors for 7 years and had them in q finals and div 1. Anthony Cunningham managed Galway under 21 hurlers to 2 All Irelands, managed Galway hurlers senior to 2 All Ireland finals and managed Garycastle to an All Ireland senior club final. And you have Jack O Connor who will be in div 1 next year, he managed kerry to 3 senior All Ireland titles, managed kerry to minor All Ireland title, managed his school to All Ireland school title. And was involved with Paudi O Se All Ireland winning teams at senior and under 21. Lohan and Dooher managed Tyrone to an under 21 All Ireland winning title.

They are Division 1 managers. Guess what we have division 1 manager. We get to division 1 for the first time in 13 years, our manager has the same cv as other division 1 managers. Andy McEntee managed a team to win senior All Ireland club title and Meath minors to All Ireland final. Division 1 managers have eitheir won All Irelands as manager at club, senior, underage or at least got to an All Ireland final. Or have inter County managerial experience. Andy ticks the box. But the list of candidates people said will be better have no inter County managerial experience have no All Ireland titles as manager, they have no or little as manager at any level most of them. They are not managers. Its basically anyone associated with the current Dublin team. I am expecting the Dublin kit man or the guy that drives the Dublin bud to matchs to be named as candidate to manage Meath next. If you get your picture taking with Sam Maguire and your from Dublin, it's nearly good enough to manage Meath these days. Andy and managers in div 1 and div 4 have better cvs than some of these candidates want to manage us. They are unproven inexperienced MANAGERS. They are not MANAGERS.

let's look at this list
Mick Deegan has No inter County management experience no All Ireland titles as manager. No titles as manager, even at club as far as I can see. He currently manages Asbhourne. Most people would say Ashbourne are underachieving. And I have seen Ashbourne under Deegan, and the football is dreadful. But because he was involved in Dublin backroom team he is better manager than Andy, not. Andy has a better CV is a better manager than Mick Deegan. Mick Deegan is unproven and inexperienced manager at this level. No top team would consider such candidates as manager. Kildare wouldn't.
Jason Sherlock, again no inter County manager experience no All Ireland winning managed team. No sucess as manager even as club level as far as I can see. He managed Dublin minors. That team was beaten by Wicklow and Meath didn't even get to leinster minor final. He was a coach, but there is a big difference between coach and manager. Big difference. They say good coach, don't make good managers. Maybe Sherlock is a good manager. We don't know. He has never managed a team successfully at high level Andy McEntee has better CV than Sherlock.

Naming someone from Dublin backroom team, doesn't mean they are good manager. We don't know what they were doing, what input they had. They aren't the manager. If you want Jim Galvin or Pat Gilroy as manager, good. But they wouldn't take the Meath job. But picking someone off his backroom team, kerry wouldn't, neither would Tyrone or Donegal, even kildare wouldn't.
Declan D'Arcy, again no managerial experience of what I know of, definitely no inter County managers experience or managing a team to an All Ireland final or title. No sucess at club level as far as I can see. Andy has a better CV.
Paul Clarke, again no inter County managerial experience or managing team to All Ireland title or final. No managerial sucess at club as far as I can see. Again Andy has a better CV. Again another unproven inexperienced manager.
Paul Curran, again no inter County managerial experience or All Ireland managing title or to final. I think he has managed Ballymun. Don't know if he won County title. I don't think so. If he did he would have the same CV as Mick O Dowd. Again unproven manager at this level. Andy has better CV.
Davy Nelson a Meath man. But no inter County experience managing at senior or minor or under 20 and has not managed All Ireland winning team or to final or even a team to a leinster final at senior or underage. He managed Navan to County title, I think. Which means he has the same CV as Mick O Dowd, More experience at club level. Again another unproven inexperienced manager at this level.
Davy Byrne managed a team to the Meath senior title. Same as Mick O Dowd. Again no inter county experience, no All Ireland title no leinster at any level as manager. Andy has a better cv and currently better manager.
Mick Bohan is Dublin ladies manager he won All Ireland titles with the ladies. But still we are talking mens football. He has no inter County experience at this level, no All Ireland title or leinster title or even maybe even a county title at mens football. No manager has moved solely from the ladies game and became successful manager in man's name. Cork manager who was the greatest ladies manager. Was involved with Cork seniors as selector. Just selector. He was the most successful ladies manager ever and Cork brought him as selector not manager. Because he was unproven inexperienced in the men's game. Roscommon looked at Bohan but picked Cunningham. Why? Cunningham is an All.Ireland hurling winning manager and who brought a football club to an All Ireland senior club final in the men's game.
Tom Gray has won provicial titles and got Dubs to under 20 final. At long last someone who has CV worth looking at. Again does he want the Meath job. And if he is smart he will wait til Dublin job comes up. But Andy McEntee has better CV overall with club senior All Ireland title and Minor team in an All Ireland final.
That's brings the list of candidates who have little or no managerial experience but because they are part of Dublin backroom team, they are considered good enough to manage us. We are looking for a manager. A successful manager.

Other name mentioned is Graham Geraghty. Again unproven inexperienced manager. No inter County experience no County titles. Two names that actually are credible are the two O Rourkes. At 62, it very unlikely Colm O Rourke will ever manage Meath. He has had 7 chances since Boylan left to take the job, but whatever reason he didn't. That ship looks like it has sailed. Malachy O Rourke is a credible candidate. Has has managerial experience at Inter County successfully. But Galway and kildare could have went for him, but didn't. And the rumour is he will be Downs manager next year. He is going to take over Down next year. So the only credible candidate for the job and Down have snapped him up.

I said if Andy leaves we will end up with inexperienced/ unproven manager. No Inter County manager with no record of managing teams successfully at high level in men's game or success at underage or club at All Ireland level, like Peter keane, like Dessie Farrell, like James Horan, like Banty, like Jack O Connor, like lohan and Dooher, like McGeeney, like Cunningham and like Andy McEntee. They are div 1 managers. We have one. He got us to division 1 for the first time in 13 years. We want to replace him with inexperienced unproven managers. That's who Andy McEntee replaced. Remember Mick O Dowd. People are listing members of backroom teams. Managers, we would be looking for a MANAGER if Andy leaves. Andy is a sucessful MANAGER with a sucessful MANAGERS cv. If he leaves we need to replace with MANAGERS with sucessful CVs. That's what kerry and Mayo do. That's what kildare. That's what even louth, Wicklow and Sligo do. We are eitheir a serious gaelic football County or not.

The good news Andy is will be manager next year. The question is not if he will be manager next year, the question is will he be given extension at the end of next year 2022. If we get promoted to div 1 or have a very good championship Andy will be given an extension. Andy is going nowhere next year. There is support for him in the county agmost the supporters. The morale is good agmost the players, all noises ftom the camp are good. And you just have to see how they respond to defeat to see its a happy camp, they are all fighting for the manager. County board want him to stay next year. We saw who they backed in the Flynn row. Andy will be manager next year. The Question is will he be given an extension next year. If we get promoted he will be given opportunity to manage the team in div 1 in 2023. He has done a good job. The way he is bringing on young players like Hickey and Morris and Costello, he is the best man to bring on our sucessful minors from this year. And I am not the only one who thinks this way. Andy has support of many in the county, the players and County board. Andy will be manager next year.

Good news for Meath football. Andy has done a good job and in my view is the best manager we have had since Boylan. He doesn't have particularly the forward talent other Meath managers had. Even Mick O Dowd had Stephen Bray and young Graham Reilly and Sheridan, Farrell and Ward. Sean had O Rourke, Stafford, Flynn, Giles, Geraghty, Dowd and Murphy. Managers after Sean had Geraghty, Two Brays, O Rourke, Ward, Sheridan, Farrell, Byrne and Reilly. If we had a young Tommy Dowd or Stephen Bray or Trevor Giles or Ollie Murphy the difference it would make would be unreal. Andy has been unlucky with injuries and no backdoor. This team would have done allot of damage in the backdoor. But overall he is a good manager doing a good job. Long may it continue. It will continue throughout 2022. At end of next year we will see if he is retained. I believe like many he is best man for the job. This my last word on the matter. Andy will be manager next year."

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