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Replying To dickie10:  "i think we should target scoreing 15 times , irrespective of what dublin score. please God we keep it under 10 points."
Let's have a go whether its 10 or 15pts it matters little
The expectation is gone after last years mauling are we better than that time will tell a few new faces have added more energy. We are really under the radar here mite be day to ambush the capital..

Roytherover (Meath) - Posts: 3 - 13/07/2021 01:08:43    2359235

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If we can put in a defensive performance like we did in 2019 and hopefully have a functioning forward line unlike that game (not a criticism, just one of those days), we can possibly keep the scoreline semi-respectable (compared to recent years). We'd also need Dublin to fail to fire somewhat.
We're not going to win, simple as that. But if we can somehow avoid another championship humiliation against them, it'd at least be a semblance of progress in that regard. We'd need a goal in order for that to happen and it's been over 3 years since Dublin have conceded one in Leinster.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 13/07/2021 16:07:02    2359459

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I think we are still way off beating Dublin however you would not have to be a genius to know all is not well in the Dublin camp.
Some players simply don't want to play for DF for different reasons and it is certainly not going down well with him playing players out of position most notably Ciaran Kilkenny, probably the best 11 in the country and he playing at 13.
The game in Croke park gives the dubs a 5 point lead straight away due to their superior fitness levels, I honestly think if this game was in Navan Sunday it could be a much tighter affair.
Andy Mac will see what Wexford did to frustrate them and I'm sure he will set up in a similar system.
We need to just stay in the game for as long as possible and use the water breaks to our advantage.
I will certainly be jumping at the +11 points at even money but the dubs should win comfortably but perhaps not on the scoreboard as usual.
Dubs by 7 or 8.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 13/07/2021 18:55:48    2359505

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Think Dublins golden era coming to an end and we have some good young players coming up but Dublin still have enough for Leinster teams. Croke Park is an advantage to Dublin but Navan with only a couple of hundred supporters won't worry them to much. Full house in Navan would be different. Most team would have played games behind closed doors in front of bigger crowds than will get in to this weekends game. Much closer than last year but think Dublin by 7-8points

AnFearBan1234 (Meath) - Posts: 110 - 14/07/2021 15:55:28    2359845

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Ahh to hell with it. It's Wednesday night and I've decided we are gonna win.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/07/2021 22:37:01    2359962

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Anyone know why Jimmy Corcoran is on the u21 panel as an outfield player when we are crying out for a top quality goalkeeper (or any kind of a goalkeeper really!) on the senior team? He's also a brilliant free taker.

I do despair sometimes about the brains involved in these Meath teams...

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 15/07/2021 11:40:07    2360056

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Anyone know why Jimmy Corcoran is on the u21 panel as an outfield player when we are crying out for a top quality goalkeeper (or any kind of a goalkeeper really!) on the senior team? He's also a brilliant free taker.

I do despair sometimes about the brains involved in these Meath teams..."
Crinigan its as simple as this, Andy tried desperately to get Jimmy on the Panel but Jimmy couldn't commit fully due to soccer commitments, its nobody's fault here just really unlucky.

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 404 - 15/07/2021 12:32:24    2360087

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Anyone know why Luke Mitchell isn't starting ?

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1265 - 15/07/2021 13:20:28    2360108

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Replying To redser123:  "Crinigan its as simple as this, Andy tried desperately to get Jimmy on the Panel but Jimmy couldn't commit fully due to soccer commitments, its nobody's fault here just really unlucky."
Doesn't matter if he can't fully commit. Not as if training 4/5 times a week with full panel is doing much for the vast majority of the team anyway, especially the goalkeepers. He's a goalkeeper, if he trained one night a week with them it would be enough.

What's he missing out on not training with rest of the panel? Learning our highly sophisticated kickout strategies?

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 15/07/2021 13:22:16    2360110

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Doesn't matter if he can't fully commit. Not as if training 4/5 times a week with full panel is doing much for the vast majority of the team anyway, especially the goalkeepers. He's a goalkeeper, if he trained one night a week with them it would be enough.

What's he missing out on not training with rest of the panel? Learning our highly sophisticated kickout strategies?"
Yeah I'm sure the rest of the panel would have no problem with some lad rocking in training 1 night a week while they all bust themselves training 3/4/5 nights a week. Don't be ridiculous. It's not about him learning kick out strategies It's about being fair to the panel. You can't be telling a group of lads they have to be fully committed to the cause and train 4 nights a week but in the same breath say ah well he only has to train once because he plays soccer. Ridiculous suggestion

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 15/07/2021 13:54:18    2360123

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Doesn't matter if he can't fully commit. Not as if training 4/5 times a week with full panel is doing much for the vast majority of the team anyway, especially the goalkeepers. He's a goalkeeper, if he trained one night a week with them it would be enough.

What's he missing out on not training with rest of the panel? Learning our highly sophisticated kickout strategies?"
your making no sense who are you blaming, it was Jimmy's decision not to play for the meath seniors although he hasn't ruled out playing in the future, he is contracted with Wexford FC in soccer, from what I heard he was very thankful to Andy for asking but he just didn't feel like it was possible to do both which is fair enough.

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 404 - 15/07/2021 13:59:09    2360125

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Replying To redser123:  "your making no sense who are you blaming, it was Jimmy's decision not to play for the meath seniors although he hasn't ruled out playing in the future, he is contracted with Wexford FC in soccer, from what I heard he was very thankful to Andy for asking but he just didn't feel like it was possible to do both which is fair enough."
Sure maybe he just turn up for the matches!!

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 15/07/2021 14:41:13    2360134

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The lad is getting paid (however small the fee) to play soccer by Wexford and he'll never get that with GAA. Maybe he wants to try and get his way back to England playing soccer and is putting all his energy into that. Maybe the U20 management were allowing him to only train once a week whilst playing/ training with Wexford youths.

Talk of him as a keeper is also unlikely. There's a huge difference between a GAA and a soccer keeper. Jimmy played most of his GAA as an outfield player (and a very good one at that) so why would we stick him in goals. He's not on the U20 panel as a keeper so why would he be on the senior panel as a keeper. Sean Brennan and Dean Pluck are there as keepers, they play there for their clubs so let them at it.

Now maybe in a year or two Jimmy decides he does want to play GAA and get involved with Meath, let him at least try and play where he wants to first. Don't limit the lad to between the sticks because that's where he played international soccer. Gary Rodgers was a decent underage keeper in soccer and GAA but played most of his club football for St Ultans outfield. Think he won a Junior Leinster medal playing at half forward. You have to allow these lads to flourish in their most natural position. Stop trying to place triangular pieces in circular holes,

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 15/07/2021 16:34:48    2360169

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Yeah I'm sure the rest of the panel would have no problem with some lad rocking in training 1 night a week while they all bust themselves training 3/4/5 nights a week. Don't be ridiculous. It's not about him learning kick out strategies It's about being fair to the panel. You can't be telling a group of lads they have to be fully committed to the cause and train 4 nights a week but in the same breath say ah well he only has to train once because he plays soccer. Ridiculous suggestion"
Typical backward Meath GAA attitude you have.

You know in a pro soccer team the keepers train almost exclusively by themselves? They are totally separate with their own coaching staff and drills. Maybe that's why are keepers are so bad… they run around with gps on their backs working on their 2km sprint times. Sure forget about being a good keeper, it will really affect team morale if the keepers aren't doing exactly what we are doing.

The reason Corcoran can't commit is because management have the same backward GAA attitude you have as they'd expect the keepers to do all the runs etc even though of no relevance to their job on the pitch.

And don't make me laugh about lads bursting themselves training. They've been doing it for 5 years now and not one of them is a better footballer for it.

But sure when you see Dublin make a clown show out of our kickout strategy next weekend at least you can comfort yourself that all is fair to the panel! Tell me who is the captain again?

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 15/07/2021 17:05:33    2360178

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Typical backward Meath GAA attitude you have.

You know in a pro soccer team the keepers train almost exclusively by themselves? They are totally separate with their own coaching staff and drills. Maybe that's why are keepers are so bad… they run around with gps on their backs working on their 2km sprint times. Sure forget about being a good keeper, it will really affect team morale if the keepers aren't doing exactly what we are doing.

The reason Corcoran can't commit is because management have the same backward GAA attitude you have as they'd expect the keepers to do all the runs etc even though of no relevance to their job on the pitch.

And don't make me laugh about lads bursting themselves training. They've been doing it for 5 years now and not one of them is a better footballer for it.

But sure when you see Dublin make a clown show out of our kickout strategy next weekend at least you can comfort yourself that all is fair to the panel! Tell me who is the captain again?"
I'm not even sure where to start with this post there is that much drivel in it.

So you believe a player who has played basically no Gaa in the past 5 years and when he has it's been as an outfield player will be able to come in train once a week and be the answer to our goalkeeping prayers??? Delusional and clueless springs to mind.

Yes goalkeepers train by themselves quite a lot but in pro soccer but the difference is they do it 5/6 times per week and have been for years. It's got absolutely nothing to do with expecting him to be in running 2ks but he needs to be in regularly 3 times a week at least working on GAA goalkeeping which by the way is quite different to soccer goalkeeping. Yes some parts similar but a lot of it different.

Also by your logic is the players haven't improved in the last 5 years from training 3/4/5 times a week like all the othet inter County teams they should just come in and train once a week and they would be at the same level as they are now...

Lastly. What has who the Captain is got to do with Jimmy Corcaran not being able to commit to the senior panel for this year?? You are just waffling now.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 15/07/2021 17:54:44    2360187

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Typical backward Meath GAA attitude you have.

You know in a pro soccer team the keepers train almost exclusively by themselves? They are totally separate with their own coaching staff and drills. Maybe that's why are keepers are so bad… they run around with gps on their backs working on their 2km sprint times. Sure forget about being a good keeper, it will really affect team morale if the keepers aren't doing exactly what we are doing.

The reason Corcoran can't commit is because management have the same backward GAA attitude you have as they'd expect the keepers to do all the runs etc even though of no relevance to their job on the pitch.

And don't make me laugh about lads bursting themselves training. They've been doing it for 5 years now and not one of them is a better footballer for it.

But sure when you see Dublin make a clown show out of our kickout strategy next weekend at least you can comfort yourself that all is fair to the panel! Tell me who is the captain again?"
If there's one thing this post tells me it's that you have no clue what makes a successful dressing room. There definitely are allowances made for players, for example, if Donal Keoghan had work commitments that limited the time he could give to collective training that would be fine and his teammates would probably be fine with it because they know the type of person Donal is, and know what he can do on the pitch. The idea that you'd have a totally unproven keeper, who's barely played club and when he does play he plays outfield, then you'd throw him straight in goals an only have him train far less than the rest of the panel. What evidence have we to suggest Corcoran would be a good county goalkeeper. I was really excited when I heard he was on the panel because I thought he might be the answer in goals. But it was still a maybe, he'd have to show it. If Andy had Jimmy Corcoran training once a week while playing soccer, then he played him in one of our league games and he proceeded to be poor and his kick-outs and high ball skills (completely different for a GAA goalkeeper than soccer) weren't up to scratch I could only imagine how much abuse you would hurl at the management team

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1523 - 15/07/2021 18:33:13    2360193

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "If there's one thing this post tells me it's that you have no clue what makes a successful dressing room. There definitely are allowances made for players, for example, if Donal Keoghan had work commitments that limited the time he could give to collective training that would be fine and his teammates would probably be fine with it because they know the type of person Donal is, and know what he can do on the pitch. The idea that you'd have a totally unproven keeper, who's barely played club and when he does play he plays outfield, then you'd throw him straight in goals an only have him train far less than the rest of the panel. What evidence have we to suggest Corcoran would be a good county goalkeeper. I was really excited when I heard he was on the panel because I thought he might be the answer in goals. But it was still a maybe, he'd have to show it. If Andy had Jimmy Corcoran training once a week while playing soccer, then he played him in one of our league games and he proceeded to be poor and his kick-outs and high ball skills (completely different for a GAA goalkeeper than soccer) weren't up to scratch I could only imagine how much abuse you would hurl at the management team"
Absolutely spot on.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 16/07/2021 09:50:58    2360309

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Yes. Got my tickets for the game. Absolutely can't wait. Even though I have a huge event on Monday. This will be the start of a fantastic couple of days.
A Meath win. :)
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/07/2021 10:44:01    2360327

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Yes. Got my tickets for the game. Absolutely can't wait. Even though I have a huge event on Monday. This will be the start of a fantastic couple of days.
A Meath win. :)
Hon the royal"
great opportunity for redemption here & a chance to restore faith, pride & a sense of optimism in where we are going as a County . I've no interest in the result, just want to see us dying out there on Sunday with our boots on.
Show no fear, and every time we are knocked back....get up & go again. Empty our bench...let as many guys experience this great opportunity as we possibly can....

Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 401 - 16/07/2021 10:59:15    2360337

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is game on tele lads or gaa go

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 16/07/2021 11:59:23    2360366

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