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Replying To Irish_downunder: " Replying To stillaroyal: "I see that Mikey Carey was persuaded to rejoin the Kilkenny panel and "he is believed to be undergoing a demanding physical regimen to get back up to speed for county action."
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/derek-lyng-coaxes-mikey-carey-back-into-kilkenny-hurling-fold-in-big-boost-for-cats/a186460103.html
Why couldn't we have done the same with Conor McGill? I agree with RD on this one. Huge huge loss - not just his ability but moreso his presence and experience in the area and for the team. I suspect that we would not be in the Tailteann Cup if that had been dealt with properly." Im sorry but the lad knew this was a clean start for the whole county and everyone interested in playing was putting in the work. It not like last year was massively demanding for him. Knocked out early in county and Ratoath had a canter through the championship then wimpered out. Should have reported in like everyone else. Showing up out of shape and not reaching the standard at training (the rest of the mediocre bunch were at) is not good enough from someone who should have been one of our main leaders."
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Replying To mmc: "When it was put to us did we want to loose to either London or New York or play in the connaught final and All Ireland series is what was realy meant by these players .
Derry have improved by winning Armagh have improved by winning Louth improved by winning teams improve more by winning than getting hammered in any competition.
How much did meath improve with all the hammerings we received from Dublin over the last 12 years best team ever how much did we improve from our year in div 1 and super 8s , I'll tell you NONE hammerings demoralis players and supporters.
It might not mean much to you if this Meath team were to win the TC but I've no doubt it would mean a lot to the players and to a lot of supporters , supporters who have never seen a meath Senior team win anything .
All that's wrong with you is you slagged the westmeath people about the Tailtean Cup last year and it has come back to haunt you i done the same but get over it because they are in for 3 beatings in the All Ireland series" Agree with a lot of this, IF we were to put in a good run in the Tailtin Cup and make a semi final or final I think it would be a great boost to the players moral and help to get some sort of a buzz around the county again, it definitely did in the likes of Westmeath and Sligo from last year. However the same problem remains, I don't think O Rourke is up to much at all as a manager and from talking to a few players, they don't either. Playing in Sam is no good for us at the minute, Derry went all the way to Div 4 before they started to improve so they are a prime example that winning breeds winning and helps to generate interest and enthusiasm within the team and county which can be built upon.
ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 04/05/2023 12:58:54
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Replying To mmc: "When it was put to us did we want to loose to either London or New York or play in the connaught final and All Ireland series is what was realy meant by these players .
Derry have improved by winning Armagh have improved by winning Louth improved by winning teams improve more by winning than getting hammered in any competition.
How much did meath improve with all the hammerings we received from Dublin over the last 12 years best team ever how much did we improve from our year in div 1 and super 8s , I'll tell you NONE hammerings demoralis players and supporters.
It might not mean much to you if this Meath team were to win the TC but I've no doubt it would mean a lot to the players and to a lot of supporters , supporters who have never seen a meath Senior team win anything .
All that's wrong with you is you slagged the westmeath people about the Tailtean Cup last year and it has come back to haunt you i done the same but get over it because they are in for 3 beatings in the All Ireland series" Hold on. we haven't a hope of winning this. Do you really think we will beat cavan ? Down ? Antrim ? Offaly? Unless something drastic happened since league and Offaly games
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Replying To royaldunne: "Hold on. we haven't a hope of winning this. Do you really think we will beat cavan ? Down ? Antrim ? Offaly? Unless something drastic happened since league and Offaly games" So you believe Cavan , Down , Offaly and Antrim lol are better than us jez you can't get away from Andy is that the same Antrim team that lost to westmeath by 32 points.
You were going OK until you put them in lol
So we are playing in the right competition is that what you are trying to say i knew you'd see sense at some stage lol
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Replying To ratlag: " Replying To Irish_downunder: "[quote=stillaroyal: "I see that Mikey Carey was persuaded to rejoin the Kilkenny panel and "he is believed to be undergoing a demanding physical regimen to get back up to speed for county action."
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/derek-lyng-coaxes-mikey-carey-back-into-kilkenny-hurling-fold-in-big-boost-for-cats/a186460103.html
Why couldn't we have done the same with Conor McGill? I agree with RD on this one. Huge huge loss - not just his ability but moreso his presence and experience in the area and for the team. I suspect that we would not be in the Tailteann Cup if that had been dealt with properly." Im sorry but the lad knew this was a clean start for the whole county and everyone interested in playing was putting in the work. It not like last year was massively demanding for him. Knocked out early in county and Ratoath had a canter through the championship then wimpered out. Should have reported in like everyone else. Showing up out of shape and not reaching the standard at training (the rest of the mediocre bunch were at) is not good enough from someone who should have been one of our main leaders."
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 04/05/2023 19:58:34
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https://www.meathchronicle.ie/2023/05/04/at-the-end-of-the-storm-theres-a-golden-sky/
Great read and some very valid points!
Add in the regional teams to the snr championship too to give good players from lower grades the opportunity to improve and play a higher standard of football!
Which in turn would raise the standards and set a benchmark in the other grades!
Your club mightnt be competing at junior or intermediate grade but you have the added incentive of breaking onto a regional team and potentially competing in a senior championship which gives you something to push for.
(And the youngsters in your club someone to look up to-dare to dream!)
Obviously won't happen overnight but definitely should be implemented.
Onwards and upwards!
Best of luck to Colm and the lads in the Tailteann Cup!
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Replying To Thebantersauras: "https://www.meathchronicle.ie/2023/05/04/at-the-end-of-the-storm-theres-a-golden-sky/
Great read and some very valid points!
Add in the regional teams to the snr championship too to give good players from lower grades the opportunity to improve and play a higher standard of football!
Which in turn would raise the standards and set a benchmark in the other grades!
Your club mightnt be competing at junior or intermediate grade but you have the added incentive of breaking onto a regional team and potentially competing in a senior championship which gives you something to push for.
(And the youngsters in your club someone to look up to-dare to dream!)
Obviously won't happen overnight but definitely should be implemented.
Onwards and upwards!
Best of luck to Colm and the lads in the Tailteann Cup!" Vg piece by F Lynch and covers most ot the items we debate here. Dont agree with there being no place for the so called stronger teams, but othetwise an excellent analysis of Meath football. Regional teams is a difficiult path and needs a huge amount of planning and buy on from all.
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Replying To Thebantersauras: "https://www.meathchronicle.ie/2023/05/04/at-the-end-of-the-storm-theres-a-golden-sky/
Great read and some very valid points!
Add in the regional teams to the snr championship too to give good players from lower grades the opportunity to improve and play a higher standard of football!
Which in turn would raise the standards and set a benchmark in the other grades!
Your club mightnt be competing at junior or intermediate grade but you have the added incentive of breaking onto a regional team and potentially competing in a senior championship which gives you something to push for.
(And the youngsters in your club someone to look up to-dare to dream!)
Obviously won't happen overnight but definitely should be implemented.
Onwards and upwards!
Best of luck to Colm and the lads in the Tailteann Cup!" It's interesting how everyone has a different take on it.
If you take the conversation from off the ball this morning, it's a completely different view point , it's amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn8FR-4MuCE
It's true ,Monaghan befitted playing at a top level for the last decade , but there club football is no stronger than ours , I would say Meath Hill would probably beat most of its Monaghan neighbours.
I think we get caught up between club and county , here the thing club and county football is a massive gap.
I think changing the club football in Meath is a great idea , but it's not going to translate to county because the gap is massive playing Summer hill then Dublin.
The thing about the Meath and Offaly match was the Meath lads just didn't look like they didn't want to play , they looked like there was a lack of motivation to play and up for the game !
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Replying To mmc: "So you believe Cavan , Down , Offaly and Antrim lol are better than us jez you can't get away from Andy is that the same Antrim team that lost to westmeath by 32 points.
You were going OK until you put them in lol
So we are playing in the right competition is that what you are trying to say i knew you'd see sense at some stage lol" No we playing in the wrong competition one we wouldn't be in only for a manager who has proven beyond doubt is out of his depth. As for Antrim can you really see us beating them. Btw they beat cavan. You forgot to mention that.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/05/2023 15:59:07
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Replying To royaldunne: "No we playing in the wrong competition one we wouldn't be in only for a manager who has proven beyond doubt is out of his depth. As for Antrim can you really see us beating them. Btw they beat cavan. You forgot to mention that." How you can place all of Meaths failings for the last 20 years on one man's head is amazing.
From a person who slatted people on here who criticised the previous manager you have went full circle .
Personal I put as much of the blame on the previous manager as you do COR in my opinion he left Meath football in dire place and who ever came in after him was in a no win position.
COR might not be the right person but he will be man enough to admit that when the time comes and if that's after this year or next year I've no doubt he will do what he thinks is the best for Meath football he won't hang around until the county board are decided on his position.
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Replying To mmc: "How you can place all of Meaths failings for the last 20 years on one man's head is amazing.
From a person who slatted people on here who criticised the previous manager you have went full circle .
Personal I put as much of the blame on the previous manager as you do COR in my opinion he left Meath football in dire place and who ever came in after him was in a no win position.
COR might not be the right person but he will be man enough to admit that when the time comes and if that's after this year or next year I've no doubt he will do what he thinks is the best for Meath football he won't hang around until the county board are decided on his position." After a long day at the boss yesterday I needed something to cheer me up that it's over. Thank you , you did just that.
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plenty of problems but not many solutions. To me this stuff about club championships is a red herring in terms of county performances. Like has Louth ever had a champion in a Leinster final, is Offaly championship better than ours (ratoath beat them), Crossmaglen has dominated armagh and done well but is their club scene any good? Derry and Dublin very competitive club scene alright
seasiderblues (Meath) - Posts: 352 - 08/05/2023 12:09:48
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