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Upcoming Special Congress - 3 Like(s)
Under Proposal A and C, the only metrics that you can use to measure success is winning a provincial title or All Ireland. At least under Proposal B, counties have clear ambitions ( top 5 in division 1, avoid relegation, gain promotion etc ) .

Rebel2020 (National) - 16/10/2021 15:23:22

Upcoming Special Congress - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Those figures are Inflated by the GPA also. Only 288 out of 1200 GPA members replied to that survey."
Well that makes a big difference. I'm sure everyone believed the 80% figure was from the majority 1200 members. Bit of disconnect in GPA when they can't even get 300 of its members to fill out important survey.

Yondu (National) - 16/10/2021 11:34:51

Upcoming Special Congress - 2 Like(s)
People talk about dead rubber games in Super 8s, if only top 6 qualify out of a Division 1 you'll see the same. You could be safe after 3 or 4 games and then choose who you want to try against. Add in the fact you could be lucky with the draw and get your toughest games at home. Back to qualifiers for me. That way everybody get their chance.

Saynothing (National) - 16/10/2021 13:53:40

Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)

Replying To ulsterrules:  "People are missing a big point and that is that HQ do not care about anybody except the top tier teams and counties, do not fool yourself, if Qatar started pumping millions into Leitrim to make them a power house of GAA and HQ could get their cut then rules would be changed to help them. While the traditional counties have been always been successful over the generations it was only from the 90's on that the top counties started to pull away and now we have massively one sided matches in football in particular. But with all that being said go back and look at the at Wicklow , Antrim, Clare etc. and they rarely where on the end of a pasting What we need to do is actually reduce the pressure on each county to produce a team back then you really only needed to have a good 15/16 players but now you need a good 20/21 players reduce the game to 60, this would reduce the pressure on the players for fitness, increase player welfare and not affect the quality of the game Reduce the number of subs, this would level the playing field that currently benefits the top teams and counties with bigger playing populations Properly pool the money that all counties generate from the intercounty scene and disperse it fairly, bigger counties like Dublin will still get the biggest share which is right because they have the biggest playing population etc. but counties like Leitrim should not be left behind, we are supposed to be an amateur organisation after all. I have said this before create a round robin provincial championship with the champions going on to the All-Ireland Semi as it once was, the backdoor was brought in to get you more than one game this would do this"
And bring back 21 aside and point posts while you're at it!!! I'm sure Leitrim would love 3 hammerings every year in a Provincial round Robin instead of only 1 as at present.

Seanfanbocht (National) - 16/10/2021 10:27:44

All Things Galway Hurling - 1 Like(s)

Replying To CillTormoir:  "Oranmore will be back up in A next year, as sure as night turns to day."
Not much point. They'll be back down the following year when the senior championship is reduced to 16 teams to comply with the Croke Park directive.

PoolSturgeon (National) - 16/10/2021 10:34:27

Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Greengrass:  "The players are a very important part of the association but the games belong to everyone. No single group should be preeminent. The seventy year old person who has invested a lifetime in the association as a player and a volunteer has a viewpoint too and that viewpoint deserves to be given very careful consideration. The arrangements in place the Tailteann Cup in 2020 were that it would be played over three successive weekends in late June on a straight knockout basis. Those games would have determined the finalists. The final was to be played two weeks after the semi final in mid July. I don't know where the final was scheduled to be played. There are plenty of people who are opposed to Option B. They have good reasons to be opposed to it and they are sincere in their opposition. People who are opposed to Option B do not deserve to be portrayed as you portray them. Can you answer a genuine question please. Are the leagues to be played as a stand alone competition or are they going to be subsumed in to this new championship structure? I don't believe that Option B will be rejected. I think that counties in Leinster and Munster will provide sufficient delegates to pass it. Ulster will oppose it and I understandably so. It is a measure of how catastrophic the GAA's preferential treatment of Dublin has been for football in Leinster when you consider that a county with Offaly's tradition now considers Option B to be preferable to the status quo. The Leinster championship was a great competition. It is now dead. Change is needed but Option B is not it most especially if the leagues as a stand alone competition are to be abandoned too."
Yes the League and championship now merge into 1 and that's no harm and I'll explain why. To me here is a typical summary of an intercounty year in the last decade. Play the league in winter/spring which overall is the best and most entertaining competition as teams generally of a similar standard play each other. Teams have something genuine to strive for in promotion and those who aren't in the promotion picture is fighting to avoid relegation, a small amount of dead rubbers to certainly not a huge amount. Then there's a lull in the year as the championship is at a pedestrian pace with to many mismatches in the provincial and backdoor, of the 32 teams involved over 20 have no hope of winning any silverware, there might be 1 or 2 really good games most weekends and then we a brilliant all ireland final and semi final series to salvage something from the year. Under option B we have our provincials insuring the local element is maintained, i see the Cork CEO suggested maybe an additional 2 points bonus for the league phase for each provincial winner for extra incentive, something I'd be open for and would keep a provincial- all Ireland link. Then instead of playing your best competition in winter/spring play it in spring/ summer. Think with July all ireland ireland finals it has an April start. Teams across the board are fighting for promotion and relegation like i mentioned, maybe division finals can be maintained but everyone is guaranteed 7 games at this time of the year to develop your team rather than 2-3 and back to the drawing board after that. As i said before why maintain a system which is proven to be broken, there's no guarantee it would be a success but its certainly worth a tiral in my opinion over what we had pre covid even with the introduction of the tailteann cup.

wexico15 (National) - 16/10/2021 10:56:03

Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)

Replying To wexico15:  "Where did you get that information out of curiosity? Remember the GPA survey only applies to intercounty Gaelic footballers so there members who are hurlers, camogie players and ladies footballers weren't surveyed."
Published on the Irish Times. All GPA members was asked to do the survey and only 30% of the 1,200 GPA members responded to the survey.

Gaa_lover (National) - 16/10/2021 11:21:05

Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)
The GPA has come out overwhelming in favour of proposal b.. They are the absolute main stake holders in this..the players.. With out them this is no championship so please GAA deligates vote for what the players WANT.. Simple as that..

RoryGall35 (National) - 16/10/2021 11:34:15

Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)
I think that's a major game-changer all right and it shows exactly why you should always treat unofficial or unscientific polls with suspicion. The real result is that only 24% of GPA members feel strongly enough in favour of Proposal B to be bothered to fill out a form to say so. 76% don't feel strongly enough one way or the other to give probably no more than five or ten minutes of their time to feed into the process.

Pikeman96 (National) - 16/10/2021 12:09:04

Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Greengrass:  "Dear God !!!"
Bit rich coming from the person whose best argument is 'ah league is league' and that's that no matter what anyone says.

wexico15 (National) - 16/10/2021 18:57:02

Westmeath SFC Club 2021 - 1 Like(s)
Didnt see the game but why do you consider them unlucky. Heslin doesn't help himself but generally gets dogs abuse from club players and supporters, the same people who lord him when playing with county. Lomans v Kinnegad will be interesting. If weather continues to be wet I'm leaning towards Shamrocks tomorrow.

BigSur (National) - 16/10/2021 19:14:20

Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)
Gaelic Games compromises of professional counties who have resouces both financial and human capital, big sponsorship deals and these counties are pitted against teams who are largely amateur, small population, incompotent county boards, small sponsorship - run on a shoestring im comparison to their rich counterparts. Mayo versus Leitrim springs to mind. The two tier championship is designed to sideline these smaller counties and allow the big boys compete against themselves in the Al competition. No amount of restructing will level this sloped playing pitch. Centralise the sponsorship and distribute these funds evenly amongst the 31 counties. There is no way to even the population equation. At least allow counties compete on a level playing field for a five year period, if there is no improvement then restructure.

wicklowsupport (National) - 16/10/2021 19:23:06

Westmeath SFC Club 2021 - 1 Like(s)

Replying To BigSur:  "Didnt see the game but why do you consider them unlucky. Heslin doesn't help himself but generally gets dogs abuse from club players and supporters, the same people who lord him when playing with county. Lomans v Kinnegad will be interesting. If weather continues to be wet I'm leaning towards Shamrocks tomorrow."
He's not the first county player to get "dogs abuse" from players and supporters, and he won't be the last. But he should be well used to it at this stage and maybe he ought to be able to handle it better.

midlands (National) - 16/10/2021 19:50:54