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Yes don't read anything in to this match, from what I saw it was a rotten night for hurling and a goal or two here or there was going to make the difference.
Whether it was half a Wexford team or a load of Dublin team just back and mad for road, is neither here nor there. It will have no bearing come Championship. I really believe the league should be scaled back dramatically and no team start training until January 1st, and Walsh Cup etc scrapped. Players way more likely to commit if the commitment can be tempered somewhat, the no-shows in every county are telling a story and the GAA need to listen to that.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1526 - 10/01/2026 16:06:18
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Replying To gannett83: "Yes all the Martin's backs did well this year.. I can see our backs been ok this year.. like if we can get Liam Ryan fit and he is commiting it would be a extra bonus if not I would prefer to see Simon there as he has more of a physical presence than foley.. just a quick one on Eoin whelan looks a good big pysical lad but lacks fitness after been out for a year.. also lacks pace for me watching him the other night.. also gives away a lot of stupid frees but them things can be coached out of him…like backs ya wil still have the 2 recks patsy Donohoe Liam Ryan Eoin whelan darragh Carley and which ever martins are in panel also like the look of Eamonn wickham… if we can keep Richie Lawlor fit think we can be a good option to partner hearne in midfield or young rowley… I'm going to through a team out now providing we have everyone fit
Fanning S Reck. Liam Ryan..Conor foley… patsy molloy… donohoe… d Reck…. Hearne and Sean rowley… Richie Lawlor maybe one of the codds … Jack o Connor.. Kevin foley… chin and Simon Roche.." I think Richie Lawlor is better facing play so would rather him in midfield or the half-back line than in midfield
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 768 - 10/01/2026 16:29:37
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Am going to assume that Jippo is unavailable, these are the players who I think could be viable starters and their positions (Am going to include sweeper here as I think playing a sweeper makes the most sense given the make-up of our squad)....
Mark Fanning - GK
Shane Reck - Corner-back
Niall Murphy - Corner-back/Full-back
Conor Foley - Full-back/Wing-back/Midfield
Darragh Carley - Corner-back/Wing-back/Midfield
Simon Donohoe - Corner-back/Full-back
Eoin Whelan - Full-back/Wing-back
Damien Reck - Wing-back/Sweeper
Cian Molloy - Centre-back/Sweeper
Richie Lawlor - Wing-back/Midfield
Éamon Wickham - Wing-back/Midfield
Conor Hearne - Midfield
David Codd - Midfield/Sweeper
Seán Rowley - Midfield/Wing-forward/Corner-forward
Corey Byrne-Dunbar - Centre-forward/Midfield
Kevin Foley - Sweeper/Midfield/Centre-forward/Corner-forward
Jack Redmond - Wing-forward/Centre-forward/Full-forward
Tucker Kinsella - Wing-forward
Lee Chin - Wing-forward/Centre-forward/Full-forward/Corner-forward
Jack O'Connor - Wing-forward/Centre-forward/Wing-back
Simon Roche - Corner-forward/Centre-forward
Cian Byrne - Corner-forward
That's 22 players who I think could be Championship-calibre; here's what that looks like on a position-by-position basis (In terms of the positions they are able to play)
GK x1
Corner-back x4
Full-back x4
Wing-back x7
Centre-back x1
Midfield x9
Sweeper x4
Wing-forward x5
Centre-forward x6
Corner-forward x5
Full-forward x2
I think Patsy is our only real option at centre-back (Unless Chin was put there but that would hurt our ability to score), think Damien is too loose at centre-back and is much more able to attack from wing-back
A lack of full-forward options too so that's why I think a sweeper would make sense, our full-forward line is not going to be very big if neither Chin nor Jack Redmond play there so may as well just play two in there and look to hit them in the corners, using the sweeper would help us to set up our running game as well (We've a very young team so the one thing we should have on our side is legs, may as well use it when we have it)
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 768 - 10/01/2026 16:33:29
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Replying To Past hurler: "Wexford havnt beaten Dublin in the Leinster championship since 2018, I don't know how you can link a Mickey house pre season match in Oulart to how Dublin will be in the Leinster championship, Dublin & Kilkenny are ahead of Wexford at present in championship hurling, make no bones about that and the stats back that up.
Galway are an unknown quantity, a bit like Wexford in regards to consistency.
Can Wexford win the Leinster championship?, of course, but we can't base anything on losing to a 'loaded' Dublin team on the 8th of January in Oulart," I wasn't basing anything on the Walsh Cup and never did, even when we won it. And we lost by 9 points the ladt time out.
Tbh League form isnt much better of an indicator. We won every League game in the League part of it in 2022, beating Limerick, Cork, Clare, Galway and Offaly. We still didnt make a Leinster Final.
We need to give younger or less experienced players Senior Intercounty experience in these lesser competitions, to help prepare them for the real thing, as well as seeing might they step up. And Ive said that for many many years at this stage.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17949 - 10/01/2026 17:46:32
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Replying To theboys: "Not in the last few years are they up in the grades but they won 21/20 premier 14,15,16 ,18,19 I think and minor premier 14,15,16,17 I think so thats alot of top hurlers that have come with a bang for the Martins,last couple of years they have been very poor underage but still have got a couple a good young lads from those groups!!! Only oulart have had the same sort of generational teams and they dominated club!! Think they could have had 8-9 on wexford team back then but that made no difference either!!! Martins will dominant as I said if they want but probably not to the extent oulart did think they were a better team!! Anyway still think it will be a short year" It might be a short year for sure, but if it is it won't have anything to do with Martins winning or not winning premier u21 titles in the past.
Their 2017 winning team was particularly strong it has to be said, alot of those lads played county before and since.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17949 - 10/01/2026 17:52:28
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "I think Richie Lawlor is better facing play so would rather him in midfield or the half-back line than in midfield" I agree if Richie makes the team come championship I think it has to be in the halfback line.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17949 - 10/01/2026 17:55:28
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Am going to assume that Jippo is unavailable, these are the players who I think could be viable starters and their positions (Am going to include sweeper here as I think playing a sweeper makes the most sense given the make-up of our squad)....
Mark Fanning - GK
Shane Reck - Corner-back
Niall Murphy - Corner-back/Full-back
Conor Foley - Full-back/Wing-back/Midfield
Darragh Carley - Corner-back/Wing-back/Midfield
Simon Donohoe - Corner-back/Full-back
Eoin Whelan - Full-back/Wing-back
Damien Reck - Wing-back/Sweeper
Cian Molloy - Centre-back/Sweeper
Richie Lawlor - Wing-back/Midfield
Éamon Wickham - Wing-back/Midfield
Conor Hearne - Midfield
David Codd - Midfield/Sweeper
Seán Rowley - Midfield/Wing-forward/Corner-forward
Corey Byrne-Dunbar - Centre-forward/Midfield
Kevin Foley - Sweeper/Midfield/Centre-forward/Corner-forward
Jack Redmond - Wing-forward/Centre-forward/Full-forward
Tucker Kinsella - Wing-forward
Lee Chin - Wing-forward/Centre-forward/Full-forward/Corner-forward
Jack O'Connor - Wing-forward/Centre-forward/Wing-back
Simon Roche - Corner-forward/Centre-forward
Cian Byrne - Corner-forward
That's 22 players who I think could be Championship-calibre; here's what that looks like on a position-by-position basis (In terms of the positions they are able to play)
GK x1
Corner-back x4
Full-back x4
Wing-back x7
Centre-back x1
Midfield x9
Sweeper x4
Wing-forward x5
Centre-forward x6
Corner-forward x5
Full-forward x2
I think Patsy is our only real option at centre-back (Unless Chin was put there but that would hurt our ability to score), think Damien is too loose at centre-back and is much more able to attack from wing-back
A lack of full-forward options too so that's why I think a sweeper would make sense, our full-forward line is not going to be very big if neither Chin nor Jack Redmond play there so may as well just play two in there and look to hit them in the corners, using the sweeper would help us to set up our running game as well (We've a very young team so the one thing we should have on our side is legs, may as well use it when we have it)" Not sure why you are assuming Liam Ryan will be unavailable, he hasn't retired. Hes probably more likely to be available than Mac and Rory O'Connor, but I wouldn't rule both of them out altogether either.
Other lads who might force their way in if they have a really good run in the League include James Byrne, Darren Codd, Mike Kelly. Wing forwards are a big issue this year. Cillian Byrne when fully fit might force his way in, Oisin Pepper if he starts scoring freely, not sure the story with Dara Kehoe. Luke Codd is a dark horse too, scored well for an outclassed SETU Waterford team during the week. Was excellent last year for Rathnure too.
Basically its way to early to make Championship team predictions.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17949 - 10/01/2026 18:06:05
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Am going to assume that Jippo is unavailable, these are the players who I think could be viable starters and their positions (Am going to include sweeper here as I think playing a sweeper makes the most sense given the make-up of our squad)....
Mark Fanning - GK
Shane Reck - Corner-back
Niall Murphy - Corner-back/Full-back
Conor Foley - Full-back/Wing-back/Midfield
Darragh Carley - Corner-back/Wing-back/Midfield
Simon Donohoe - Corner-back/Full-back
Eoin Whelan - Full-back/Wing-back
Damien Reck - Wing-back/Sweeper
Cian Molloy - Centre-back/Sweeper
Richie Lawlor - Wing-back/Midfield
Éamon Wickham - Wing-back/Midfield
Conor Hearne - Midfield
David Codd - Midfield/Sweeper
Seán Rowley - Midfield/Wing-forward/Corner-forward
Corey Byrne-Dunbar - Centre-forward/Midfield
Kevin Foley - Sweeper/Midfield/Centre-forward/Corner-forward
Jack Redmond - Wing-forward/Centre-forward/Full-forward
Tucker Kinsella - Wing-forward
Lee Chin - Wing-forward/Centre-forward/Full-forward/Corner-forward
Jack O'Connor - Wing-forward/Centre-forward/Wing-back
Simon Roche - Corner-forward/Centre-forward
Cian Byrne - Corner-forward
That's 22 players who I think could be Championship-calibre; here's what that looks like on a position-by-position basis (In terms of the positions they are able to play)
GK x1
Corner-back x4
Full-back x4
Wing-back x7
Centre-back x1
Midfield x9
Sweeper x4
Wing-forward x5
Centre-forward x6
Corner-forward x5
Full-forward x2
I think Patsy is our only real option at centre-back (Unless Chin was put there but that would hurt our ability to score), think Damien is too loose at centre-back and is much more able to attack from wing-back
A lack of full-forward options too so that's why I think a sweeper would make sense, our full-forward line is not going to be very big if neither Chin nor Jack Redmond play there so may as well just play two in there and look to hit them in the corners, using the sweeper would help us to set up our running game as well (We've a very young team so the one thing we should have on our side is legs, may as well use it when we have it)" If you were managing a team and decided to play a sweeper, where would you play him?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17949 - 10/01/2026 19:04:15
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Replying To Viking66: "Not sure why you are assuming Liam Ryan will be unavailable, he hasn't retired. Hes probably more likely to be available than Mac and Rory O'Connor, but I wouldn't rule both of them out altogether either.
Other lads who might force their way in if they have a really good run in the League include James Byrne, Darren Codd, Mike Kelly. Wing forwards are a big issue this year. Cillian Byrne when fully fit might force his way in, Oisin Pepper if he starts scoring freely, not sure the story with Dara Kehoe. Luke Codd is a dark horse too, scored well for an outclassed SETU Waterford team during the week. Was excellent last year for Rathnure too.
Basically its way to early to make Championship team predictions." I don't know if Jippo is coming back or not but I'm not including him in the above as I'm including only those who I think are in the squad right now (Or are widely expected to be)
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 768 - 10/01/2026 19:56:43
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Replying To Viking66: "If you were managing a team and decided to play a sweeper, where would you play him?" About halfway between the centre-back and the full-back
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 768 - 10/01/2026 19:57:21
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "About halfway between the centre-back and the full-back" Deeper than I'd like him then. Id rather he played like a deep 3rd midfielder, around our 45, so that our 6 could mark their 11 when he goes roaming.
He'd also be able to offer cover to the fullback line by dropping back from where he was if the opposition worked the ball out to their 65 for delivery inside, or if they stayed running/short passing it up the pitch he could push up slightly to restrict their running room.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17949 - 10/01/2026 21:40:36
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "About halfway between the centre-back and the full-back" I do think it makes sense for us to do that based on the level of experience we have currently. It would help us to play to our strengths.
Our spine will probably be:
Jippo/Murphy
Patsy
Hearne
Donohue (because I don't think he's in our best 6 backs)
Jacko
Chin
I'd like to see David codd deployed as a sweeper.
There are positions to fill around them of course, some of which are up for grabs but you'd be hoping the backs will include the recks, Foley and possibly Lawlor.
Cian Byrne probably the only other forward that's nailed on but there's Kevin Foley, Jack Redmond, tucker, Roche, CBD etc. and I'm really hoping we see Mac this year and possibly Rory at some stage.
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Replying To Viking66: "Deeper than I'd like him then. Id rather he played like a deep 3rd midfielder, around our 45, so that our 6 could mark their 11 when he goes roaming.
He'd also be able to offer cover to the fullback line by dropping back from where he was if the opposition worked the ball out to their 65 for delivery inside, or if they stayed running/short passing it up the pitch he could push up slightly to restrict their running room." A sweeper in Parnell last year would probably have fundamentally change the season for both us and the dubs
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4129 - 10/01/2026 21:53:24
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