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Replying To Alwaysencourage: "Hold on where exactly did he want the match to be?All teams had to travel to games at we3kend and if he had made a general point about it affecting all supporters then he would have huge support all over the county.Its not just Donegal affected." Jim wants to create a siege mentality. Psychology my friends. He's creating an us and them to help galvanise the thing. bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 149 - 16/06/2025 16:43:57 2618418 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "You can add RTÉ to that list, I get more news on BBC Ulster about Donegal than from RTÉ. The mighty Dubs have a home tie and they are playing it in Croke Park yet supporters will say it's not their home ground." It is not their home ground. Just because the ground is in their home county, it does not make it their home ground. There is a difference. Parnell Park is Dublin's home ground. Limerick hurlers, or Kilkenny hurlers in particular often play more matches at CP than Dublin hurlers in a given year. Kerry footballers back in the day, often had more annual outings to CP than da Dubs. You won't hear Limerick people complain if they lose to the Dubs in the hurling quarter on Saturday that the Dubs had advantage because they were at home. They'll lose if they are not good enough. That's it. CP is Ireland's national stadium. It has to be in one of the 32 counties, so it'll never be 100% neutral to the other 31 counties. In the capital city where the most people live is the best place to have the national stadium. And it's a stadium par excellence. Otherwise, just to satisfy mouthers like Sayeverything, why not build it in Liverpool, and have it totally 100% neutral? Then you'd hear the Cavan and Kerry brigade moan about the extra cost and distance of travel. Let Northern Ireland step up and provide a stadium that's even a miniature version of CP I. Put your shoulder to the wheel instead of your constant mouthing and make Casement Park happen. But then, you'll have something more to whinge about as Antrim will then have the new place as home advantage, as CP III will be deemed to be their homeground, irrespective of the fact that CP II (Corrigan Park) is their home ground. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2308 - 16/06/2025 16:44:12 2618419 Link
Replying To Alwaysencourage: "Not a keyboard warrior just stating a fact.He has done it countless times and it is losing its impact." Name the 'countless' he has done it then if its fact? I'll even help and get you started. In 2011, when he had a pop off RTE and Pat Spillane for sneering during the discussion of man of the match in the opening Ulster championship game against Armagh. And rightly so, it was downright disrespectful. Come on now and provide all the others. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1236 - 16/06/2025 16:59:57 2618431 Link
Replying To bláthach: "Jim wants to create a siege mentality. Psychology my friends. He's creating an us and them to help galvanise the thing." Nothing wrong with that if his players respond to it. It's all about results when you are an intercounty manager. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16324 - 16/06/2025 17:24:19 2618448 Link
Brian Carroll CCCC chairman has responded. When we sit down to put these fixtures together, there are a lot of situations that have to be taken into consideration," "In the case of Donegal and Mayo, the obvious venue for us was Sligo. Unfortunately, Sligo wasn't available because the pitch is being repaired, so the ground wasn't available. " Kingspan Breffni wasn't available - Cavan were playing at the same time. Clones wasn't available because Monaghan were playing two hours earlier in the day and Omagh wasn't available because Tyrone were playing at the same time. "So our feeling was that the most logical venue for both of these counties was King and Moffatt Dr. Hyde Park." Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 496 - 16/06/2025 17:46:17 2618457 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "It is not their home ground. Just because the ground is in their home county, it does not make it their home ground. There is a difference. Parnell Park is Dublin's home ground. Limerick hurlers, or Kilkenny hurlers in particular often play more matches at CP than Dublin hurlers in a given year. Kerry footballers back in the day, often had more annual outings to CP than da Dubs. You won't hear Limerick people complain if they lose to the Dubs in the hurling quarter on Saturday that the Dubs had advantage because they were at home. They'll lose if they are not good enough. That's it. CP is Ireland's national stadium. It has to be in one of the 32 counties, so it'll never be 100% neutral to the other 31 counties. In the capital city where the most people live is the best place to have the national stadium. And it's a stadium par excellence. Otherwise, just to satisfy mouthers like Sayeverything, why not build it in Liverpool, and have it totally 100% neutral? Then you'd hear the Cavan and Kerry brigade moan about the extra cost and distance of travel. Let Northern Ireland step up and provide a stadium that's even a miniature version of CP I. Put your shoulder to the wheel instead of your constant mouthing and make Casement Park happen. But then, you'll have something more to whinge about as Antrim will then have the new place as home advantage, as CP III will be deemed to be their homeground, irrespective of the fact that CP II (Corrigan Park) is their home ground." What a load of nonsense, Croke Park could be a neutral ground to 32 counties but it's not. Dublin home match this week is in Croke Park, so is it their home ground or not. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2340 - 16/06/2025 17:50:22 2618459 Link
Replying To sligo joe: "My God, lighten up, you sound like you want to be isolated as much as possible? A lot of people in Donegal looking for more infrastructure, connectivity etc, your post sounds like you want to build a wall. Don't be so sensitive, lots of non Donegal people shouting for your county yesterday." Build a wall around aul Donegal?? There's the makings of a song there.... streaker (Galway) - Posts: 515 - 16/06/2025 18:01:59 2618469 Link
I see the title of this thread changed? is the original poster an 'insider' I wonder now?? Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3270 - 16/06/2025 18:10:51 2618472 Link
Replying To sligo joe: "I know it's a sports forum, however I do think sport is important. I just thought your comment that nobody in Donegal gives a ** what non Donegal posters think is very isolationist. Also that you claim to know what everyone in Donegal gives a about is maybe a bit arrogant. I have lots of Donegal friends, I'm in Donegal regularly, live near enough to Donegal, some of my friends up in Inishowen would have a very passing interest in gaelic football and wouldn't give much of a if Donegal won or lost. So there's lots of sporting opinions inside and outside Donegal." As I said, people in Donegal don't care what outsiders think, Jim has our full support. The fact that Jim's comments seem to be annoying people in other counties is just a bonus. Its actually quite funny that someone felt they needed to start a thread on here about what he said in an interview. greenfan (Donegal)** - Posts: 680 - 16/06/2025 18:19:33 2618474 Link
Tbf it is wrong expecting Donegal people to travel.They hate spending money. Jim did nt want croke park either.Tbf maybe let Donegal people in free and give them sangwedges. brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 180 - 16/06/2025 20:05:28 2618494 Link
Replying To sponger: "I wish to pass on my sympathies for the injustices that were bestowed upon your small and impoverished county over the weekend. Would you like me to set up a Go Fund Me for you, so the next time your team can travel by private jet, with prawn sandwiches on arrival ? All the best, Sponger." Grma sponger, no need for any of that your well wishes are appreciated but just for your info I prefer the prawns Spanish style myself CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 206 - 16/06/2025 21:19:57 2618503 Link
Replying To brayballer: "Tbf it is wrong expecting Donegal people to travel.They hate spending money. Jim did nt want croke park either.Tbf maybe let Donegal people in free and give them sangwedges." Plenty of Donegal people had no problem spending money to buy nice houses in Dublin. Imagine have to look elsewhere and you from there. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1236 - 16/06/2025 21:46:30 2618510 Link
Replying To bláthach: "Jim wants to create a siege mentality. Psychology my friends. He's creating an us and them to help galvanise the thing." Psychology is also about figuring things out, explaining things and trying to influence people. When Mayo scored the point with only seconds left, Donegal were guaranteed second place. All Sean Patton had to do was delay the kickout by a couple of seconds and kick the ball into touch after the hooter had sounded. It was obvious that Sean Patton and Ciaran Moore ( great players) did not know the actual situation because the so-called great Psychologist had not done a very important and fundamental job. Could have backfired and Donegal could be away to Kerry next weekend. Maybe Jim should concentrate on the football which he is very good at. Limerick hurlers and footballers are due to play in Croke Park on Saturday and Sunday this weekend and you won't hear much complaining from them. Jim is getting a bit embarrassing at this stage and turning some people against Donegal which is not a great idea either. Maybe it is in his head. Was at the fantastic match in Roscommon yesterday and met some lovely Donegal people. letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 16/06/2025 21:57:12 2618515 Link
I think Patten would have gladly wasted a few seconds and then booted the ball out over the sideline but for that fact Donegal were hard done by with this fixture, so me thinks they went for the win in spite of the fixture. Like Tyrone, Donegal are on their own. Well done. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2340 - 16/06/2025 22:22:32 2618519 Link
Replying To Drax_the_destroyer: "Brian Carroll CCCC chairman has responded. When we sit down to put these fixtures together, there are a lot of situations that have to be taken into consideration," "In the case of Donegal and Mayo, the obvious venue for us was Sligo. Unfortunately, Sligo wasn't available because the pitch is being repaired, so the ground wasn't available. " Kingspan Breffni wasn't available - Cavan were playing at the same time. Clones wasn't available because Monaghan were playing two hours earlier in the day and Omagh wasn't available because Tyrone were playing at the same time. "So our feeling was that the most logical venue for both of these counties was King and Moffatt Dr. Hyde Park."" Says the chairperson of the Roscommon County Board. Perhaps wearing two hats could be considered a conflict of interest. themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 157 - 16/06/2025 23:08:06 2618540 Link
Replying To brayballer: "Tbf it is wrong expecting Donegal people to travel.They hate spending money. Jim did nt want croke park either.Tbf maybe let Donegal people in free and give them sangwedges." At least you haven't far to travel for you Tailteann Cup semi on Sunday. Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 583 - 16/06/2025 23:23:50 2618547 Link
Did the Donegal fans get home yet? Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2421 - 16/06/2025 23:25:41 2618548 Link
Replying To greenfan: "As I said, people in Donegal don't care what outsiders think, Jim has our full support. The fact that Jim's comments seem to be annoying people in other counties is just a bonus. Its actually quite funny that someone felt they needed to start a thread on here about what he said in an interview." Just shows the arrogance ! The comments were ridiculous like a spoilt brat throwing his toys out of the pram . Maybe he was annoyed he didn't give us the beating you lot thought you would heard some of you lot saying 12 + laughable ! We are gone but at least we died with our boots on very young team in transition they will learn from yesterday as hard as it is to take. Though you lot still will be morning about the venue if you don't win sam which you won't! Watch out for next year cause we will get you with new management and Oisin Mullin back ( strong reliable rumours he's on the return ) and Tommy conroy back we will have the bounce . Though enjoy your all Ireland yesterday! S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 203 - 16/06/2025 23:54:54 2618557 Link
While it was a pleasure to host this fixture between two fine counties our county ground was not a fair venue for Donegal fans and team. It takes over 3.5 hours to reach many parts of Donegal while the furthest away region of Mayo is just 2 hours. Jim McGuinness was correct to point this out after the match and it wasn't sour grapes as his team were victorious. No harm atall checking the CCCC for their mind boggling decisions, this one was not their finest. Going forward it won't matter a jot as second placed teams have home advantage in the prelims and Croke Park will hopefully be the venue for all remaining games. Having made a valid point JMcG and Donegal will be already focusing on Louth and next Sunday. Donegal fans seemed to enjoy their day amongst us and their big numbers boosted our local economy. Felt genuinely sorry for our Mayo neighbours after their heroic comeback against the odds in the second half. They would be formidable opposition for any of the 2nd place teams and will have so many regrets about their preparation / performance against Cavan. Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 610 - 16/06/2025 23:55:33 2618558 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "I see the title of this thread changed? is the original poster an 'insider' I wonder now??" Yes I am. sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2943 - 17/06/2025 07:21:48 2618574 Link