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Draw For Group Stages Of All Ireland Series

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Replying To omahant:  "@That would leave prelim qfinals as something like the below
Armagh v Down
Louth v Dublin
Meath v Mayo
Tyrone v Roscommon
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1349 - 01/05/2025

That's the Dubs doing a "three strikes and they are in"?
Isn't it hard enough to bounce them on a one-off day?"
Dublin unlike others have won all All Irelands route one, no second chance. As it should be in championship. Ought to be goid with rest of losers now.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3476 - 01/05/2025 16:14:56    2606074

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "You are being very generous to your neighbours! Cork in better form than us at the moment.

Are the prelims an open draw of 2nds v 3rds or are they pre determined by groups as in your example? Group 1 2nd place play Group 2 3rd etc?"
2nd place v 3rd place from whichever group and 2nd placed team at home.

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 411 - 01/05/2025 16:49:29    2606084

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If this year's draw was applied in next year's format of 8 provincial finalists drawn at home against 8 qualifiers, it could look something like:
ROUND 1
Donegal v Tyrone
Kerry v Roscommon
Meath v Monaghan
Mayo v Dublin
Galway v Cavan
Louth v Cork
Clare v Down
Armagh v Derry
* Note: Just taken higher ranked league teams as provincial winners for example purposes and for exaggeration purposes paired runners up with those classified as "Seed 4" this year.
ROUND 2A
Donegal v Kerry
Meath v Mayo
Galway v Louth
Down v Armagh
* Note: For the Round 2A draw after Round 1 - it seems provincial winners could clash in Round 2A depending on luck or bad luck of the draw.
ROUND 2B
Tyrone v Derry
Roscommon v Clare
Monaghan v Cork
Dublin v Cavan
ROUND 3
2A losers v 2B winners.
QUARTER FINALS
2A winners v R3 winners.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8761 - 01/05/2025 20:45:38    2606125

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handy group for the kingdom men.

CorkLiamMcCarthy24 (Cork) - Posts: 152 - 01/05/2025 21:29:28    2606136

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "That's one part of it, but the other is that the Connacht winners will be paired again with the Ulster runner up. 3 years running. The Ulster final loser is guaranteed to be much much stronger than the Leinster and Munster loser every year. One easy solution would have been to rotate the provinces for the 1st and 2nd seeds. It would have been much fairer."
I have to agree with you.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 37 - 01/05/2025 22:21:43    2606146

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "That's one part of it, but the other is that the Connacht winners will be paired again with the Ulster runner up. 3 years running. The Ulster final loser is guaranteed to be much much stronger than the Leinster and Munster loser every year. One easy solution would have been to rotate the provinces for the 1st and 2nd seeds. It would have been much fairer."
This should be changed and rotated from next year.
Good point in fairness.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4217 - 02/05/2025 08:56:09    2606192

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Replying To Fionn:  "This should be changed and rotated from next year.
Good point in fairness."
The groups are gone next year. There going to a 'university challenge' style format, where 2 wins out of 2or3 games will advance you from the last 16 to the last 8, and knockout from there I assume.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4118 - 02/05/2025 10:53:48    2606224

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "The groups are gone next year. There going to a 'university challenge' style format, where 2 wins out of 2or3 games will advance you from the last 16 to the last 8, and knockout from there I assume."
It's as if they wanted to give us the mother of all shockers of a draw as a parting gift from this awful format.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2301 - 02/05/2025 13:04:45    2606269

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