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Championship is starting Saturday/Sunday. Dublin are big favourites as usual but I think it'll be more competitive with louth meath offaly and kildare all getting a bit better. Leinster semi out of croke park which is about time. What do ye think?

Lúla571210 (Louth) - Posts: 100 - 01/04/2025 07:47:28    2599861

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Replying To Lúla571210:  "Championship is starting Saturday/Sunday. Dublin are big favourites as usual but I think it'll be more competitive with louth meath offaly and kildare all getting a bit better. Leinster semi out of croke park which is about time. What do ye think?"
The only issue is who will play Dublin in the Final?
Will it be a TC team - Kildare, Offaly or Westmeath?
Thus sending Louth to the TC.
Should Wicklow, Wexford, Longford and Carlow be consigned to an Intermediate Championship

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2230 - 01/04/2025 11:14:30    2599900

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "The only issue is who will play Dublin in the Final?
Will it be a TC team - Kildare, Offaly or Westmeath?
Thus sending Louth to the TC.
Should Wicklow, Wexford, Longford and Carlow be consigned to an Intermediate Championship"
Dublin can only play Louth Wexford Laois WMeath Kildare in final

Offaly are same side of the draw

DundalkGael (Louth) - Posts: 938 - 01/04/2025 12:00:45    2599912

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "The only issue is who will play Dublin in the Final?
Will it be a TC team - Kildare, Offaly or Westmeath?
Thus sending Louth to the TC.
Should Wicklow, Wexford, Longford and Carlow be consigned to an Intermediate Championship"
We beat Offaly in the Leinster Championship 3 years ago and in the TC year before last. If we have to play in an Intermediate Championship then so probably would Limerick, Tipperary, Waterford Leitrim and Sligo. Which would mean you would have to amalgamate the Munster and Connacht Senior Championships to get enough games in them. You could have a 6 team Western Championship then which would be reasonably competitive once you got to the semi finals.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15368 - 01/04/2025 16:11:48    2599980

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It is a very competitive championship excluding Dublin alright.

I think it will be Offaly Vs Dublin in one semi final with Offaly giving a decent account of themselves
I think Westmeath will beat Kildare, even if it's away for them in the quarter final, so Louth vs Westmeath in the other semi-final. I would toss a coin for that one but might go for Louth.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1130 - 02/04/2025 22:03:22    2600223

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Replying To county man:  "It is a very competitive championship excluding Dublin alright.

I think it will be Offaly Vs Dublin in one semi final with Offaly giving a decent account of themselves
I think Westmeath will beat Kildare, even if it's away for them in the quarter final, so Louth vs Westmeath in the other semi-final. I would toss a coin for that one but might go for Louth."
Meath?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2230 - 03/04/2025 11:12:10    2600297

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I still think Dublin will win it but the games will be far more competitive this time around.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8726 - 03/04/2025 14:41:23    2600365

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I think Meath have a chance this year. They've been a bit hot and cold but weren't far off promotion to Division 1.

We've been waiting a long time for Dublin to be taken out of Croke Park for the Leinster semi finals. Finally this year. That would give Meath an extra chance.

They've a couple of games to get through first but and could slip up before they get there. But they're dangerous and can get goals so that gives them a chance.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 420 - 03/04/2025 16:28:51    2600391

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Replying To county man:  "It is a very competitive championship excluding Dublin alright.

I think it will be Offaly Vs Dublin in one semi final with Offaly giving a decent account of themselves
I think Westmeath will beat Kildare, even if it's away for them in the quarter final, so Louth vs Westmeath in the other semi-final. I would toss a coin for that one but might go for Louth."
It would be a much better championship if it wasnt set up for Dublin to win.
The Meath-Dublin Saga was a first round game, which captured the countries imagination. Due to seeding, the Leinster championship is just a continuous stroll for Dublin.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1290 - 07/04/2025 09:00:15    2600895

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "It would be a much better championship if it wasnt set up for Dublin to win.
The Meath-Dublin Saga was a first round game, which captured the countries imagination. Due to seeding, the Leinster championship is just a continuous stroll for Dublin."
Ah stop will ya.
They'd have won them Leinsters even if they had to play them with their hands tied behind their backs.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2230 - 07/04/2025 10:23:41    2600919

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Replying To brianb:  "I think Meath have a chance this year. They've been a bit hot and cold but weren't far off promotion to Division 1.

We've been waiting a long time for Dublin to be taken out of Croke Park for the Leinster semi finals. Finally this year. That would give Meath an extra chance.

They've a couple of games to get through first but and could slip up before they get there. But they're dangerous and can get goals so that gives them a chance."
We were told that Dublin would falter when they moved the QFs out of Croke Park about 10 years ago. They've still yet to lose a game.

We played Dublin in Navan in the league 2 years ago and there was lots of talk of Dublin being vulnerable because they never play in Navan. They hockeyed us that day too.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1677 - 07/04/2025 11:05:40    2600930

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Replying To brianb:  "I think Meath have a chance this year. They've been a bit hot and cold but weren't far off promotion to Division 1.

We've been waiting a long time for Dublin to be taken out of Croke Park for the Leinster semi finals. Finally this year. That would give Meath an extra chance.

They've a couple of games to get through first but and could slip up before they get there. But they're dangerous and can get goals so that gives them a chance."
While I agree Meath are best placed in Leinster to ultimately challenge Dublin, the reality is they're still nowhere near that level and Dublin realistically going to give them a good beating if they manage to get over Offaly - which will be a stiff challenge.

Meath have injuries, Jordan Morris is out of the season, Ronan Jones probably won't be back until the Sam Maguire group stages, Jack Kinlough picked up a nasty injury yesterday, Matt Costelloe is still probably not 100% up to match fitness having missed almost the entire league. And there's a few more too.

So I think Meath's goal for this year will be to get over Offaly next week, and put up a good show against Dublin. Then step back and prep for the group stages. Get everyone back fit again and hopefully have a productive Sam Maguire campaign.

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 07/04/2025 14:03:53    2600969

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "It would be a much better championship if it wasnt set up for Dublin to win.
The Meath-Dublin Saga was a first round game, which captured the countries imagination. Due to seeding, the Leinster championship is just a continuous stroll for Dublin."
Someone will have to beat the Dubs at some stage, the gap isn't as big as it once was (last years final was testament of that) in previous years so much so when there were calls to scrap Leinster, takes the Dubs out or split them in. It's up to counties to get there house in order particularly at grass roots and it would appear that is the reason Louth have pushed on another level, am open to correction.

francie81 (Louth) - Posts: 218 - 08/04/2025 13:43:58    2601100

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "It would be a much better championship if it wasnt set up for Dublin to win.
The Meath-Dublin Saga was a first round game, which captured the countries imagination. Due to seeding, the Leinster championship is just a continuous stroll for Dublin."
Someone will have to beat the Dubs at some stage, the gap isn't as big as it once was (last years final was testament of that) in previous years so much so when there were calls to scrap Leinster, takes the Dubs out or split them in two*. It's up to counties to get there house in order particularly at grass roots and it would appear that is the reason Louth have pushed on another level, am open to correction.

francie81 (Louth) - Posts: 218 - 08/04/2025 15:05:22    2601116

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Replying To francie81:  "Someone will have to beat the Dubs at some stage, the gap isn't as big as it once was (last years final was testament of that) in previous years so much so when there were calls to scrap Leinster, takes the Dubs out or split them in two*. It's up to counties to get there house in order particularly at grass roots and it would appear that is the reason Louth have pushed on another level, am open to correction."
In my opinion, your county, Louth, are on track to be able to challenge for major honours in the next 2/3 yrs. Thats just going on your progress at u17/20 in recent times. A word of caution, Kildare have nearly monopolised at these age groups for a number of years but are having difficulty graduating to senior.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1593 - 08/04/2025 17:23:51    2601138

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Replying To francie81:  "Someone will have to beat the Dubs at some stage, the gap isn't as big as it once was (last years final was testament of that) in previous years so much so when there were calls to scrap Leinster, takes the Dubs out or split them in two*. It's up to counties to get there house in order particularly at grass roots and it would appear that is the reason Louth have pushed on another level, am open to correction."
It's definitely not that reason, as another has said, Kildare have been the best underage team in Leinster for the past 10/15 years

Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 340 - 08/04/2025 22:37:36    2601170

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That is true and thanks for pointing that out. All am saying is that it goes deeper than just sounding like a broken record in pointing the finger at the GAA in mollycuddling the Dubs for there dominance by doing what no other footballing county has done, at the end of the day the work has to be put in on and off the field.

francie81 (Louth) - Posts: 218 - 09/04/2025 00:05:08    2601175

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Replying To Lúla571210:  "Championship is starting Saturday/Sunday. Dublin are big favourites as usual but I think it'll be more competitive with louth meath offaly and kildare all getting a bit better. Leinster semi out of croke park which is about time. What do ye think?"
More competitive because for the first time in 30 years, Dublin have lost home advantage against a top 4 team. If the leagues teach anything, it's the value of home advantage and that Dublin are more vulnerable outside of Croke Park.

There isn't necessarily a team ready this year to capitalise on it, but I guarantee if we had them in Newbridge instead of Croke Park every time we've played them since 2011, they would not be going for 15 in a row this year. After all, we've beaten them the last three times they've been to Newbridge.

Doesn't look like it will be Kildare, but I'm looking forward greatly to a different team winning Leinster.

Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 340 - 09/04/2025 09:03:12    2601184

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Replying To francie81:  "That is true and thanks for pointing that out. All am saying is that it goes deeper than just sounding like a broken record in pointing the finger at the GAA in mollycuddling the Dubs for there dominance by doing what no other footballing county has done, at the end of the day the work has to be put in on and off the field."
Whatever about Dublin, money etc surely to God Meath and Kildare could at least be at the same level over the last decade as small Counties like Ros and Monaghan!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2230 - 09/04/2025 09:18:35    2601188

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Replying To Sweetspot:  "It's definitely not that reason, as another has said, Kildare have been the best underage team in Leinster for the past 10/15 years"
The fact that absolutely nothing has come of Kildare's underage success over the last 5/10 years is absolutely damning. There's something seriously amiss with the structure and set up.

2 All Ireland U20 teams (2018, 2023), another team that reached a final (2022) - and a couple of decent minor teams who won a Leinster championship and were beaten Leinster finalists a few time. Now those 2023 U20 players are probably still coming through an can improve, but the foundations are certainly there.

It seems to happen to Meath too, very competitive at underage level, beating the likes of Dublin, but by the time the same group comes through to Senior level, the Dublin players seem to be miles ahead. Something gets lost in that transition from underage to Senior.

Part of it is probably the cultural aspect of joining a winning team and being able to integrate with less expectations. over the last 10 years, Dublin have been able to bring in youngsters almost under the radar, and by the time they were 22/23, they have 2 All Irelands and have developed.

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 09/04/2025 11:46:49    2601210

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