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Intermediate is similar, Clongeen the only club with nothing to play for at the weekend.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20629 - 31/08/2026 13:15:40 2692125 Link 0 |
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Yes, but there are different levels of "something to play for". For instance, in that same group, the current top three (St. Anne's, St. Mary's Maudlintown, Starlights) are already guaranteed to also finish in the top three. All they're really playing for is positions to determine which of the Group B teams they'll play in the quarter-finals. Second, third and fourth in Group B could be any three of Adamstown, Cloughbawn, St. Fintan's, Ballyhogue, and Ferns. Is any one of those so obviously so significantly weaker than the others that it really would be an advantage and an "easier" game for whoever finishes top of Group A? Or in other words - does it really matter if you come first, second or third in Group A, since you'll be playing any one of five teams of a broadly equal standard in the quarter-finals anyway? Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3972 - 31/08/2026 15:13:42 2692155 Link 0 |
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Is Senior really that different? Top 4 in Group A is already determined. Top 2 in Group B are also already through. The loser of Barntown v Crossabeg is going to be in relegation.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20629 - 31/08/2026 16:20:09 2692168 Link 0 |
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Exactly. I was just using Intermediate as an example because that's the one mentioned in your post that I was replying to. To illustrate the point there: Kilanerin and Castletown "have something to play for" in Group A because their match will decide who finishes first and second. But there's unlikely to be any great difference in standard between the teams finishing third and fourth in Group B. So apart from the obvious local bragging rights, does it really matter to Kilanerin and Castletown whether they finish first or second, since their quarter-final assignments will be of a broadly equal standard anyway? Just goes to show my original point of how there are different levels of "something to play for". You could be Crossabeg/Ballymurn, playing to avoid the relegation final and also to try get into the top four. That's much more of a "something to play for" than either Castletown or Kilanerin have. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3972 - 31/08/2026 16:41:08 2692176 Link 0 |
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Ah see what you mean. But I was replying to a post that was discussing the last round of the Senior championship. I just pointed out that there was a similar amount at stake in Intermediate.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20629 - 31/08/2026 17:33:15 2692194 Link 0 |
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Ah see what you mean. But I was replying to a post that was discussing the last round of the Senior championship. I just pointed out that there was a similar amount at stake in Intermediate. Of course if we had 3 groups of 4 there would likely be more at stake in both grades in the final round ;-) Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20629 - 31/08/2026 17:34:10 2692195 Link 0 |
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a fictional scenario, a good player tells hegarty he would like to be considered to join the senior panel in 2027, but the same player was asked in 2025 and 2026 when we were in div 4 and 3 but he refused, would u invite him now onto squad? Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 3124 - 02/09/2026 17:04:07 2692446 Link 0 |
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If hes good enough and fast enough and strong enough, then why not? Why cut your nose off to spite your face?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20629 - 02/09/2026 17:35:35 2692449 Link 0 |
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I don't think there is any player who said they wouldn't play just because they played in div 3 and 4. However if they did then they can stay wherever they have ever been for the past two years
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2232 - 03/09/2026 04:23:05 2692484 Link 0 |
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Is this really fictional? I genuinely don't know. But my answer would be 'it depends'. If I was manager, things I'd consider would include: Has there been a change in the player's circumstances? e.g. maybe he was studying or working a good distance away for the past couple of years, but is now based at home again. What reasons did he give for not joining the panel in either of the past two years? Is it really a case of he just didn't fancy Div. 4 or even Div. 3, but would like a crack at Div. 2 all right? Just how good is he? i.e. is he good enough to be a regular starter and make a real difference to the team, or is it a case of good enough to be in the panel, but the same level of good as all the others who only occasionally get a run, or the others who I'm also currently considering asking into the panel for next year? If I'd never asked him in before, or if I was in my first year as manager, is he somebody I'd have had my eye on now anyway, through his performances in the club championship so far? There'd be a few other nuances to consider too. But overall, I'd be leaning towards a yes, unless it really was what I hope would be an unlikely scenario of somebody really thinking "I'm too good to play Div. 4, but I'll let them have me for Div. 2 all right". Somebody with that sort of ego would likely be hard to handle in the squad at any stage, and I'd need to consider that too. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3972 - 03/09/2026 10:56:39 2692508 Link 0 |