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It should be an ambition for all clubs to produce Wexford senior hurlers. The more Wexford senior hurlers they produce the more likely they are to be in contention on winning the club championship and also it should be an honour for a club to have a number of lads involved. Young lads in the club will look upto them too
Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 655 - 25/06/2025 14:48:53 2620976 Link 0 |
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It's a duty or responsibility of any club to do their best to help all their players be the absolute best version of themselves that they can be. If that's good enough to play for the county then that's a bonus. Any other attitude is elitist and tbh very annoying. What you seem to be implying there is that clubs should put all their time into the best lads and #### the rest of them. Not a good attitude to have at all at all. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16410 - 25/06/2025 14:57:40 2620981 Link 0 |
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I think clubs should focus on trying to produce the best players they possibly can If you've a starting Senior team with a good few lads on the the senior intercounty team and then pretty much the rest of the team had experience for the county at U20/U21 level, you're fairly likely to have a good Senior club team So for me, I don't really see the issue with each club aiming to produce Senior inter-county players, should work out pretty much the same as aiming to produce the best possible players you ca The majority of players won't even play county level at under-age so I think it should be the aim of the club to produce as many county players as possible through good coaching and development plans rather than putting undue pressure on young players. I see no reason as to why young players shouldn't be encouraged to emulate the likes of Lee Chin, it's just a case of keeping it that way rather than putting them under too much pressure ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 584 - 25/06/2025 15:03:16 2620984 Link 0 |
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It's a duty or responsibility of any club to do their best to help all their players be the absolute best version of themselves that they can be. If that's good enough to play for the county then that's a bonus. Any other attitude is elitist and tbh very annoying. What you seem to be implying there is that clubs should put all their time into the best lads and #### the rest of them. Not a good attitude to have at all at all. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16410 - 25/06/2025 15:11:54 2620986 Link 0 |
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I'm sure we'd find some sort of way to lose at singing too!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16410 - 25/06/2025 15:12:42 2620987 Link 0 |
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It's the responsibility of the clubs to produce the best players they can for the needs of the club imho. That's it really, I'm not sure how it can be anything else. Club players will be club players on the basis of where they're from, what the club is. County players are county players on the basis of the whims of the people involved in those county teams at the time. One should pull in to the other in theory but it's the responsibility of me as a club coach to do what's best for the club. If that helps my county and benefits the county team then great. But here's the rub, I know in my club what type of player they want to develop up through the grades, what they want me to prioritise, what areas to concentrate on. Do you know what your county team wants in that respect? I don't, so I'll do what's best for my club. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1525 - 25/06/2025 15:51:16 2620996 Link 0 |
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In disappointing that after all this time you'd think so little of me Viking. A rising tide lifts all boats. Clubs should be focused on developing every single player. In my opinions the all have the same ceiling. Some of them will make really good choices which can culminate in walking the steps of the Hoganstand in purple and gold. The club should facilitate that dream for every player as long as possible Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3770 - 25/06/2025 18:06:46 2621057 Link 0 |
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Surely with Ed Sheeran in Purple and Gold we couldn't lose? I suppose there would be lads complaining about him being on the team though.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2023 - 25/06/2025 19:38:57 2621072 Link 0 |
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Ah I get you now! Absolutely that should be the aim for every boy. It's something we mention at nearly every training session. But at the end of the day it's not my goal to develop any particular lad or small group to attain that goal, but rather to try to keep them all playing to adult, love the game, etc. If you want to build a culture like what exists in top counties its no good having a select few ex top players trying to pass that love of the game on in certain clubs or areas. You want as many lads as possible doing that in every club, whether that be a fella who won an intercounty all star or 2, or the fella that played Intermediate or Junior club until he was 38. Maybe a fella that was never an intercounty player could have 2 sons who end up being all stars, but they might never get there unless they get that gra for the game from their hero, their father.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16410 - 25/06/2025 19:58:48 2621076 Link 0 |
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Like who? Bar Chin and Rory O'Connor I don't think Wexford have a higher standard of player. What do you define as standard of player? I think Dublin have more warriors whereas I feel Wexford are a bit green and not up for a battle with the bigger counties. Its like they want to be nice in an arena where nice guys finish last! Maybe its my bias and not just after the weekend but just my opinion. I was in Limerick this week and the reaction to the result was not "Oh they owe us nothing" like it is on this board. People were fuming about some of the preparation after the Munster Final. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1400 - 25/06/2025 20:23:48 2621081 Link 0 |
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I'm not saying we're miles ahead or anything. That's obviously not the case. It is my belief that we have more technical hurlers. If you were to pick a combined 15 I think it would have more Wexford players on it. On the other hand I don't disagree. Dublin absolutely have more guts and that's more important for winning matches. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3770 - 25/06/2025 22:21:35 2621103 Link 0 |
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We could not be any further behind.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 831 - 26/06/2025 08:52:46 2621138 Link 0 |
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More Technical players than Dublin? The Currie brothers, the Hayes brother, the Purcell brothers, Chris Crummy, Burke, O'Sullivan are all serious hurlers. All the above have serious workrate too something we lack. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 965 - 26/06/2025 10:17:39 2621151 Link 0 |
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Well we could be Warwickshire
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3770 - 26/06/2025 11:56:58 2621173 Link 0 |
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All very good players. Are they better technical hurlers than the o Connors, recks, Chin, Byrne, CBD, Foleys, McDonald? It's not that important anyway. We've long established Dublin are using the resources they have far better than we are. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3770 - 26/06/2025 12:00:22 2621178 Link 0 |
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The "is the purpose of the club to create county players or win titles" is almost as stupid as the "hurling is a way of life" jargon. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1881 - 26/06/2025 13:11:11 2621205 Link 0 |
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I don't like admitting it but all munster teams play with huge intensity. We don't. Kilkenny usually stroll through leinster.in fairness Dublin surprised everyone last week. They played like a munster team. Massive intensity from start to finish and even when one of their best players was sent off they continued to battle hard and were able to finish the job. If say we were playing Limerick last Sunday I don't believe for a second that we would have won. We quite simply haven't got the level of intensity that is required for intercounty. We are only fooling ourselves if we think otherwise. We have " nice " hurlers but so much more is needed. Raw passion, never say die attitude, total concentration, teak tough players throughout the field, the ability to win the high ball and come out on top in the rucks. Unfortunately we lack in most of the above if not all. I don't believe we are going anywhere close with the current crop. The only way now for improvement is to get lads in their early years at school and in the clubs to emulate what we see in other counties. If we don't accept that what we are doing is not good enough then it will continue to be more of the same and we will be blaming injuries, bad referring decisions being unlucky.and just about everything else. Bottom line is we as a county have to change the way we do things. As they say " if you can't beat them join them" Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 526 - 26/06/2025 13:57:56 2621235 Link 0 |
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100% agree!
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 197 - 26/06/2025 14:14:47 2621242 Link 0 |
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Recks Shane barely hurled. Damien is injury prone aswell this year Jack probably best year but wasn't great Rory was not great chin different gravey Byrne was poor lack of supply I think cbd one game in a none rubber foleys aren't around Mac out only for a few mins. Yer point is more or less mute. How many will be here next year.
Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 368 - 26/06/2025 14:16:42 2621244 Link 0 |
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I agree that there's the lack of intensity in the team but I don't think it's quite the case that this current team are completely incapable of providing it. Intensity may look like it's a physical thing but it's really a mental thing (Does Limerick's fall-off in the absence of Caroline Curtis showcase this?), whether Keith is the man to bring it out in the players, I don't know although at the same time, as much as I believe this group of players can play with the intensity needed, there's no guarantee that they will
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 584 - 26/06/2025 15:06:31 2621269 Link 0 |