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Replying To Greengrass:  "Well Ollie. I hope all is good with you. Did you partake in the Tone's celebrations? Personally I feel that Paddy Keenan is the best player I have ever seen playing for Louth."
Goodman Greengrass. I'm good thanks. Hope all is well with you. I did indeed take part in their celebrations. I have many Tones friends and I was delighted for them. The future is bright for them. I can't disagree with you there saying that Paddy Keenan was the best player to play with Louth in your life time.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 921 - 01/11/2024 14:15:38    2577842

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Replying To Greengrass:  "I've heard that said before. Some people advocated that John Galvin should have received an All Star that year. I can't agree that he was the standout midfielder that season. Had he been so he'd have got one. John Galvin was a fine footballer and he could consider himself unlucky not to win an All Star over the course of his career. Having said that I saw John Galvin play on a number of occasions. I saw him come up against Paddy Keenan in five league and championship matches. Paddy got the better of him in four of those matches. Paddy was a more complete footballer than John Galvin. To say that awarding the 2010 All Star to Paddy Keenan was " the single biggest token award in the history of the All Stars" is a ridiculous statement."
But you'll of course claim Keenan was better than Galvin.

Had Louth not lost how they did and still gone out in the next round Keenan wouldn't have been in the conversation for an All-Star.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1479 - 01/11/2024 16:43:02    2577853

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Great post. I agree entirely with you. That block summed up Paddy Keenan. He was the complete footballer. It's a terrible pity that Martin Sludden got the decision so badly wrong. That block reminded me of Conor Gormley's block on Stephen McDonnell in 2003."
What people from Louth never like to admit is they kicked away that game and shouldn't have been in that position at all at that stage of the game. Yes ot was the wrong but Louth milked it for years after and used it anytime anything went wrong. They also had a change to somewhat set the record straight against Meath the following season but got hammered.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1479 - 01/11/2024 16:57:21    2577855

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Replying To oneoff:  "But you'll of course claim Keenan was better than Galvin.

Had Louth not lost how they did and still gone out in the next round Keenan wouldn't have been in the conversation for an All-Star."
B******t. Paddy Keenan had already been nominated in 2007. People were well aware of his qualities as a footballer. Bernard Brogan has ranked Paddy as one of the five best players he has ever played with.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6144 - 01/11/2024 18:53:20    2577860

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Replying To oneoff:  "What people from Louth never like to admit is they kicked away that game and shouldn't have been in that position at all at that stage of the game. Yes ot was the wrong but Louth milked it for years after and used it anytime anything went wrong. They also had a change to somewhat set the record straight against Meath the following season but got hammered."
I agree that we had chances to put that game beyond Meath's reach. What you don't seem to realise is how hard it is for teams who haven't won at provincial level in fifty years to actually win a provincial final. I don't agree that Louth used that defeat as an excuse for failures in later years. You don't seem to realise that that result ripped the heart out of Louth football for years afterwards. Thankfully the county has recovered. Meath were well and truly buried this year. All eyes in Louth football are looking to the future and not the past. The county is delighted that a second well deserved All Star has come its way this week.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6144 - 01/11/2024 18:59:16    2577861

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Replying To oneoff:  "But you'll of course claim Keenan was better than Galvin.

Had Louth not lost how they did and still gone out in the next round Keenan wouldn't have been in the conversation for an All-Star."
That's just nonsense.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 803 - 01/11/2024 20:00:24    2577869

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Like I said the hurling was going to be controversial..I'm delighted to see 4 coming to limerick but didn't see it at all..kk have none..I thought they might get 2..I had Conor leen as a shoe in..I also thought Brian hayes would definitely get one..hego in the corner is really taking the p…I'm delighted for Nicky..I didn't see Kyle getting it as I thought blanchfield would..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2399 - 01/11/2024 20:38:43    2577871

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Fair play to Conroy. I don't think there can be any complaints. He had a great year. A great servant for Galway football down the years.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11419 - 01/11/2024 20:51:46    2577873

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Can't understand KK not getting one. Unbeaten in province. Won the final by 16 points. Lost by two points in semi final to the eventual champions.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 803 - 01/11/2024 20:55:07    2577874

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Like I said the hurling was going to be controversial..I'm delighted to see 4 coming to limerick but didn't see it at all..kk have none..I thought they might get 2..I had Conor leen as a shoe in..I also thought Brian hayes would definitely get one..hego in the corner is really taking the p…I'm delighted for Nicky..I didn't see Kyle getting it as I thought blanchfield would.."
Limerick beat Clare twice, Clare beat Cork twice and Cork beat Limerick twice so it was always going to be even with Clare getting the most as champions. I think 6 for Clare, 5 for Cork and 4 for Limerick was right but the individuals for me would have been different.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 852 - 01/11/2024 21:06:15    2577877

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Replying To Greengrass:  "B******t. Paddy Keenan had already been nominated in 2007. People were well aware of his qualities as a footballer. Bernard Brogan has ranked Paddy as one of the five best players he has ever played with."
Why do you keep bringing that up? What does 2007 have to do with 2010?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1479 - 01/11/2024 21:07:50    2577878

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Replying To Malonemagic:  "That's just nonsense."
Why?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1479 - 01/11/2024 21:08:49    2577879

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Like I said the hurling was going to be controversial..I'm delighted to see 4 coming to limerick but didn't see it at all..kk have none..I thought they might get 2..I had Conor leen as a shoe in..I also thought Brian hayes would definitely get one..hego in the corner is really taking the p…I'm delighted for Nicky..I didn't see Kyle getting it as I thought blanchfield would.."
Kk should have had one

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 535 - 01/11/2024 21:11:34    2577881

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Two golden oldies getting POTY in both Football and Hurling Good Luck to both but I would not have picked either. Same Counties, Kelly and Maher for me.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 450 - 01/11/2024 21:30:24    2577883

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Replying To oneoff:  "Why do you keep bringing that up? What does 2007 have to do with 2010?"
Lads, you may ignore this. As my dear old grandfather used say 'convince a fool against his will, he is of the same opinion still'. The beauty of these fora is that no matter how simple the poster, he still has a say...

LaLu (Louth) - Posts: 235 - 01/11/2024 22:04:15    2577886

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Fair play to Conroy. I don't think there can be any complaints. He had a great year. A great servant for Galway football down the years."
No complaints ? You are having a laugh

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 670 - 01/11/2024 22:05:40    2577887

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Replying To veterngaa:  "Lads surely Morgan in goals is a terrible pick"
Do you follow the football? Morgan was the best keeper in Ireland by a mile, even going forward he would put a lot of centre forwards to shame. Well deserved and more to follow.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2159 - 01/11/2024 23:04:17    2577893

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Replying To oneoff:  "Why do you keep bringing that up? What does 2007 have to do with 2010?"
It's proof of the fact that he was in the conversation for an All Star not just in 2010 but also in 2007. It's another example of the fact that he was a top player.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6144 - 01/11/2024 23:52:05    2577896

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Replying To oneoff:  "Why?"
Seriously?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6144 - 01/11/2024 23:54:08    2577897

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Replying To Greengrass:  "I've heard that said before. Some people advocated that John Galvin should have received an All Star that year. I can't agree that he was the standout midfielder that season. Had he been so he'd have got one. John Galvin was a fine footballer and he could consider himself unlucky not to win an All Star over the course of his career. Having said that I saw John Galvin play on a number of occasions. I saw him come up against Paddy Keenan in five league and championship matches. Paddy got the better of him in four of those matches. Paddy was a more complete footballer than John Galvin. To say that awarding the 2010 All Star to Paddy Keenan was " the single biggest token award in the history of the All Stars" is a ridiculous statement."
Well in 2010 the players nominated John Galvin to the Midfield Position on their team the only deviation from the All Star team. He scored 1.3 from Midfield in the Munster Final and was MOTM, even though his team lostHe was also the MOM against Cork in the qualifier, in which they lost by a single point to the eventual Champions
Walsh from Kanturk was a young fellow, who was not then or ever remotely as good a Footballer as Galvin yet he got the All Star.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4468 - 01/11/2024 23:58:23    2577898

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