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McManus giving out about Carlow being relegated. Someone has to be relegated. The current system sets a qualifying standard for the provincial championships. Giving out for the sake of it! legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8284 - 27/05/2024 16:34:50 2547714 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "McManus giving out about Carlow being relegated. Someone has to be relegated. The current system sets a qualifying standard for the provincial championships. Giving out for the sake of it!" No. Alot of us think the same. Did you read everything he said about development of the game, exposure, growth, keeping panels together, dissuading lads from travelling etc etc. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 27/05/2024 17:36:51 2547739 Link
Replying To LockLeanGayl: "Could be all change in the McDonagh next year Tom Mullaly is hot properly Carlow might do well to hold on to him. Rumours he's been approached about the Kilkenny U20s If Offaly don't go up you could see Leo O'Connor as the new Offaly manager Willie Maher prob safe in Laois after winning promotion in the league Molumphy gone in Kerry so new man there Rumours here that Joe will be gone" I'm surprised to hear that bit of news about Mulally tbh. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 27/05/2024 17:38:16 2547740 Link
I feel sorry for Carlow - sent down after matching KK. Maybe it's time to merge most McD teams into the Provs? Munster 6 (incl Kerry, top 2 to Muns Final). Lein 10 (2 groups of 5, group winners to Lein Final). AIC KO QFs A) Muns Champ v winner between Lein two 3rds. B) Lein RU v Muns 3rd C) Lein Champ v Muns 4th D) Muns RU v winner between Lein two 2nds. AIC KO SFs Winners AvB and CvD. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2889 - 27/05/2024 18:01:27 2547744 Link
Replying To omahant: "I feel sorry for Carlow - sent down after matching KK. Maybe it's time to merge most McD teams into the Provs? Munster 6 (incl Kerry, top 2 to Muns Final). Lein 10 (2 groups of 5, group winners to Lein Final). AIC KO QFs A) Muns Champ v winner between Lein two 3rds. B) Lein RU v Muns 3rd C) Lein Champ v Muns 4th D) Muns RU v winner between Lein two 2nds. AIC KO SFs Winners AvB and CvD." So you want 4 from the group of 6 and 3 from the groups of 10 ? It's too complicated anyway. Let the lower division of the league serve as a qualifier for provincial championship. Revert provincial back to knockout. Provincial champions into aisf Runner up into aiqf Everyone else in all Ireland preliminary groups. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3143 - 27/05/2024 20:19:51 2547784 Link
Replying To Viking66: "No. Alot of us think the same. Did you read everything he said about development of the game, exposure, growth, keeping panels together, dissuading lads from travelling etc etc." The people who were in favor of a 2nd (even 3rd tier) in Football are now saying that it doesn't work for hurling even though hurling was cited as the example? Offaly, Antrim and Westmeath played in the NHL1. Next year with the changes the teams who would have come up from 2 will end up playing similar teams to themselves with only Waterford and Dublin as the two top tier teams. Why did the hurling counties allow this to go through? because the league started to mean little to teams other than perhaps the weaker counties. What would happen to round robins with these teams in it - the same thing. Carlow in the old league structure would have at least played 4 top tier teams - I don't think I can remember anyone complaining about it back then zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1900 - 27/05/2024 21:19:37 2547793 Link
I wonder who will take over the Kerry hurlers now that Stephen Molumphy has gone. Would like to see someone from one of the top counties take them over. Cant think of any recently retired players who would be suitable. I know that Brendan Cummins from Tipperary was involved as selector a few years ago. Maybe he could come in and do a job aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 668 - 30/05/2024 12:52:46 2548368 Link
Replying To aidan64: "I wonder who will take over the Kerry hurlers now that Stephen Molumphy has gone. Would like to see someone from one of the top counties take them over. Cant think of any recently retired players who would be suitable. I know that Brendan Cummins from Tipperary was involved as selector a few years ago. Maybe he could come in and do a job" What about Christy Walsh? He's a proud Kerry man but is living in Kilkenny. And a good hurling man too. He did really well with the Bennetsbridge hurlers. He's currently managing the Kilkenny football team. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 30/05/2024 14:48:57 2548414 Link
Replying To aidan64: "I wonder who will take over the Kerry hurlers now that Stephen Molumphy has gone. Would like to see someone from one of the top counties take them over. Cant think of any recently retired players who would be suitable. I know that Brendan Cummins from Tipperary was involved as selector a few years ago. Maybe he could come in and do a job" Cummins would more than likely not show up to games if he'd the opportunity to be on TV. Something he actually did when he was involved with Kerry before. The problem with a lot of lads who come from "hurling counties" to the likes of Kerry is they're fully committed, not all but some. When Eamonn Kelly was managing Kerry we was also managing club teams. Michael Fennelly was playing with Ballyhale in the All-Ireland club championship, and I think he had a coach who was involved with Borris-Ileigh as well, when he became Offaly manager. If Kelly was managing Tipp and Fennelly Kilkenny neither would be involved with other teams like that. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1472 - 31/05/2024 12:29:46 2548555 Link
Kerry going with an internal manager next year if rumours are to be believed. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 806 - 02/06/2024 23:04:18 2549051 Link
Laois v Offaly has the makings of another great McDonagh final. Offaly B ensured Laois didn't make the final last year. Carlow had other plans in the final however! Carlow motivated by Offaly wanting to play them! Laois have been playing like men possessed, men on a mission after missing out on last year's final. Offaly will be getting a positive bounce from their first success at U20/U21 level. Offaly haven't played in the Leinster championship since 2018. After losing McD and U20 finals last year, great opportunity now to win both this time around. After a lot of bad press around poor football attendances in Croke Park, it'll be interesting to see the crowd for the hurling finals on Saturday. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8284 - 03/06/2024 10:13:49 2549113 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Laois v Offaly has the makings of another great McDonagh final. Offaly B ensured Laois didn't make the final last year. Carlow had other plans in the final however! Carlow motivated by Offaly wanting to play them! Laois have been playing like men possessed, men on a mission after missing out on last year's final. Offaly will be getting a positive bounce from their first success at U20/U21 level. Offaly haven't played in the Leinster championship since 2018. After losing McD and U20 finals last year, great opportunity now to win both this time around. After a lot of bad press around poor football attendances in Croke Park, it'll be interesting to see the crowd for the hurling finals on Saturday." I agree a local derby with a lot at stake.Id say the midland fans will ensure a healthy crowd at Croke Park.Hard to predict who will win but Laois with 8 probsble starters were very poor in Mullingar.Offaly might just sneak it because of a stronger bench. jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1600 - 03/06/2024 19:44:30 2549265 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Laois v Offaly has the makings of another great McDonagh final. Offaly B ensured Laois didn't make the final last year. Carlow had other plans in the final however! Carlow motivated by Offaly wanting to play them! Laois have been playing like men possessed, men on a mission after missing out on last year's final. Offaly will be getting a positive bounce from their first success at U20/U21 level. Offaly haven't played in the Leinster championship since 2018. After losing McD and U20 finals last year, great opportunity now to win both this time around. After a lot of bad press around poor football attendances in Croke Park, it'll be interesting to see the crowd for the hurling finals on Saturday." I'd imagine somewhat over 10,000 Dubs, probably same from Kilkenny if they think it will be competitive which it ought to be. Around 10,000 for the McDonagh? Was small enough last year I think? Offaly on a high after 20s and Laois hurling well and local rivalry should boost it. Most will hardly stay for later game on a Saturday evening. At least Hill is open so be a bit better atmosphere than usual for a smallish crowd. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 03/06/2024 21:23:11 2549284 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Laois v Offaly has the makings of another great McDonagh final. Offaly B ensured Laois didn't make the final last year. Carlow had other plans in the final however! Carlow motivated by Offaly wanting to play them! Laois have been playing like men possessed, men on a mission after missing out on last year's final. Offaly will be getting a positive bounce from their first success at U20/U21 level. Offaly haven't played in the Leinster championship since 2018. After losing McD and U20 finals last year, great opportunity now to win both this time around. After a lot of bad press around poor football attendances in Croke Park, it'll be interesting to see the crowd for the hurling finals on Saturday." Laois have better hurlers Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 04/06/2024 16:28:32 2549481 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Laois have better hurlers" We shall see on Saturday. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 04/06/2024 20:31:26 2549526 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "We shall see on Saturday." :-D Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 05/06/2024 00:52:41 2549583 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "We shall see on Saturday." Thought that might provoke a response! I'd have you as favourites but think Laois might sneak it again! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 05/06/2024 07:39:47 2549589 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Thought that might provoke a response! I'd have you as favourites but think Laois might sneak it again!" It won't be easy, if Offaly are to win they will have to be at their best. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 05/06/2024 15:34:11 2549728 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "It won't be easy, if Offaly are to win they will have to be at their best." I'm looking forward to the game. The 2 games should be close if all 4 teams bring their best form! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 05/06/2024 16:48:18 2549742 Link
Laois can probably claim to be the greatest McDonagh champions as they went on to make the All-Ireland quarter-finals. Offaly are flying high off the back of the back of the U20 success. It seems teed up to be a good final. Both have a high enough profile. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8284 - 05/06/2024 17:02:13 2549746 Link