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Meath Club Hurling Season 2024

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Replying To RR:  "Senior Group A
Trim V Dunboyne - Could be more like a training session, Trim by 14.
Dunderry V Kilmessan - Kilmessan to keep on rolling over, them by 10.
Kildalkey V Clann na nGael - It would be one hell of an upset, but I don't think it's going to happen. Kildalkey by 6 in a closer game than many would think

Senior Group B -
Kiltale V Longwood - Can see Longwood sticking to Kiltale but fading away in last 10/15 mins. Kiltale by 8.
BNG v Na Fianna - How much will be shown here in terms of hands considering they could meet again in SHCB? Na Fianna by 4.
Ratoath V Killyon - This one could be entertaining - I'll go for Ratoath by 3.

IHC Group A
NOM and Don/Ash guaranteed at least a QF. Drumree could finish 1st, 3rd or 4th depending on results as they've H2H over NOM but not against Kells.

Don/Ash vs Drumree - Don/Ash are motoring nicely (especially with their best player out for the season), I'd imagine Drumree will be laser focused on top spot. Don/Ash by 1 in a belter.

Kells v Wolfe Tones - Kells will know they can still get through and that should be enough to see off Tones. Kells by 7.

IHC Group B
Similar to the other group, a lot of permutations here. Boardsmill will finish either top or 4th because of their score difference.

Kilskyre/Moylagh vs St Pats - Not sure if it will help Pats to stay up after a few hammerings by mercy of Dunboyne, but better to be at the level above I guess. K/M have better score difference than Kildalkey and I think this is going to be crucial. K/M by 19.

Kildalkey vs Trim - Kildalkey will win but they will need to win by at least 18 to throw over K/M and even then it might not be enough. Kildalkey by 21.

Rathomlyon vs Boardsmill - The decider in many ways. Rathmolyon have put up some big big scores, the opposite of B'Mill who've scored 60 and conceded 60. Which makes me think that the Mill have one massive performance in their armorery. Going for them by 2 to finish top and in the process, eliminate Kildalkey.


Which gives me, I think, a 1/4 final lineup of
SHC
Kilmessan vs Killyon
Kildalkey vs Ratoath
IHC
Don/Ash vs Rathmolyon
Kilskyre/Moylagh vs Navan O'Mahonys"
If your results go as you predict the. I Think you might have the ihc quaters in IHC wrong there.
If Don ash win as predicted them NOM win the group and DON ASH are 2nd. Drumree will be out if kells win.

On other side if Boardsmill win then they are top Rathmolyon 2nd and then if kilskyre and kildalkey both win then kilskyre are out as kildalkey have them in the head to head

Islander21 (Meath) - Posts: 22 - 28/08/2024 23:01:51    2567452

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Replying To Islander21:  "If Don Ash and Kells both win as you predict,
then Drumree are into Inter B as kells have them on Head to Head. Both will finish on 6 pts"
You're dead right.. oversight by me there forgot about Kells beating drumree. My bad.

bountyboy22 (USA) - Posts: 36 - 29/08/2024 09:25:47    2567478

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Replying To RR:  "Senior Group A
Trim V Dunboyne - Could be more like a training session, Trim by 14.
Dunderry V Kilmessan - Kilmessan to keep on rolling over, them by 10.
Kildalkey V Clann na nGael - It would be one hell of an upset, but I don't think it's going to happen. Kildalkey by 6 in a closer game than many would think

Senior Group B -
Kiltale V Longwood - Can see Longwood sticking to Kiltale but fading away in last 10/15 mins. Kiltale by 8.
BNG v Na Fianna - How much will be shown here in terms of hands considering they could meet again in SHCB? Na Fianna by 4.
Ratoath V Killyon - This one could be entertaining - I'll go for Ratoath by 3.

IHC Group A
NOM and Don/Ash guaranteed at least a QF. Drumree could finish 1st, 3rd or 4th depending on results as they've H2H over NOM but not against Kells.

Don/Ash vs Drumree - Don/Ash are motoring nicely (especially with their best player out for the season), I'd imagine Drumree will be laser focused on top spot. Don/Ash by 1 in a belter.

Kells v Wolfe Tones - Kells will know they can still get through and that should be enough to see off Tones. Kells by 7.

IHC Group B
Similar to the other group, a lot of permutations here. Boardsmill will finish either top or 4th because of their score difference.

Kilskyre/Moylagh vs St Pats - Not sure if it will help Pats to stay up after a few hammerings by mercy of Dunboyne, but better to be at the level above I guess. K/M have better score difference than Kildalkey and I think this is going to be crucial. K/M by 19.

Kildalkey vs Trim - Kildalkey will win but they will need to win by at least 18 to throw over K/M and even then it might not be enough. Kildalkey by 21.

Rathomlyon vs Boardsmill - The decider in many ways. Rathmolyon have put up some big big scores, the opposite of B'Mill who've scored 60 and conceded 60. Which makes me think that the Mill have one massive performance in their armorery. Going for them by 2 to finish top and in the process, eliminate Kildalkey.


Which gives me, I think, a 1/4 final lineup of
SHC
Kilmessan vs Killyon
Kildalkey vs Ratoath
IHC
Don/Ash vs Rathmolyon
Kilskyre/Moylagh vs Navan O'Mahonys"
If Boardsmill win, Kilskyre will be out as they will likely be level on points with Kildalkey but Kildalkey have beaten them. Regardless can't see Boardsmmill beating Rathmolyon. Kilskyre or Rathmolyon to win it out

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 272 - 29/08/2024 09:27:30    2567479

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Replying To Belt:  "If Boardsmill win, Kilskyre will be out as they will likely be level on points with Kildalkey but Kildalkey have beaten them. Regardless can't see Boardsmmill beating Rathmolyon. Kilskyre or Rathmolyon to win it out"
Ah, you are right, forgot that it's only score difference with a three way tie

RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 29/08/2024 13:46:40    2567542

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Kilskyre must be hurting this morning

ParcT (Meath) - Posts: 21 - 02/09/2024 10:52:31    2567970

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Replying To ParcT:  "Kilskyre must be hurting this morning"
Big time. There was a few of their players up watching the double header on Saturday to try get a feel for Drumree or Don/Ash. Then again on Sunday to keep an eye on what was happening with Rathmolyon and BoardsMill.

Must be stinging them to know that one more Rath point would've seen them through.

IHC is very open now. Could make an argument for any of the six left. Drumree putting up 20 or more points consistently is impressive, NOM will have been well rested, Don/Ash's workrate gives them a chance in most games, Rathmolyon the form team, B'Mill have dug deep to beat teams and Kildalkey are obviously Kildalkey.

Pity the same can't be said about the SHC.

RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 02/09/2024 11:16:13    2567975

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actually think now the farce of a group stage has ended , it will be very hard to call the SHC winners. i think it might be another trim v ratoath final

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 761 - 02/09/2024 21:16:52    2568122

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I'm assuming the B "championships" aren't actually designated championships in the technical sense?

If, for example, the SHC B is a fully fledged championship grade below the SHC but above the IHC, how do they get around the rule that a player who has played in one grade of championship cannot go on to play in a lower grade in the same year?

Either:

1. The SHC groups are not designated as championship hurling, leaving all senior players free to play any grade.
2. The SHC B is not designated a championship, meaning players who have played senior are free to play in it.
3. The County Board have sorted this all out and have a rule somewhere saying all SHC B teams' players are regraded after the group stage or something.

Option 1 is hardly the case, as it's just too ridiculous.
Option 3 is possible, but I'll need someone to point me to the competition regulations or county board minutes where they've set out exactly who is eligible for the SHC (or IHC) B. Because I can't find any mention of them online.

This leaves me thinking it's option 2. Especially since we already use the term "championship" for the Junior 2 and most Premier Football competitions, even though they are designated as tournaments in the rules.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1657 - 03/09/2024 13:08:40    2568205

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Qtr final weekend,
Inter A, Boardsmill V Donaghmore, could go either way, give Boardsmill the shout by 1
Inter B, Tones V St Pats, Pats to continue losing and be relegated.
Inter A, Navan V Kildalkey, Navan to win and could be a handsome score difference,
Senior B, Dunderry V BHG, Dunderry by 5,
Senior A, Kilmessan V Killyon, Kilmessan to advance by 6,
Senior B, Na Fianna V Dunboyne, fancy Dunboyne to pip this one, Na F at sea,
Senior A, Kiltale V Kildalkey, Kildalkey by 4,

ParcT (Meath) - Posts: 21 - 12/09/2024 13:08:58    2569537

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Replying To ParcT:  "Qtr final weekend,
Inter A, Boardsmill V Donaghmore, could go either way, give Boardsmill the shout by 1
Inter B, Tones V St Pats, Pats to continue losing and be relegated.
Inter A, Navan V Kildalkey, Navan to win and could be a handsome score difference,
Senior B, Dunderry V BHG, Dunderry by 5,
Senior A, Kilmessan V Killyon, Kilmessan to advance by 6,
Senior B, Na Fianna V Dunboyne, fancy Dunboyne to pip this one, Na F at sea,
Senior A, Kiltale V Kildalkey, Kildalkey by 4,"
Qtr final weekend
Inter A Boardsmill V Donaghmore: Boardsmill by 6
Inter B Tones V St Pats: Tones by 10+
Inter A Navan V Kildalkey: Kildalkey by 4
Senior B Dunderry V BHG: BHG by 4
Senior A Kilmessan V Killyon: Killyon by 2,
Senior B Na Fianna V Dunboyne: Na Fianna by 6
Senior A Kiltale V Kildalke: Kildalkey by 6

MeathHurler2023 (Meath) - Posts: 8 - 12/09/2024 14:58:46    2569572

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Qtr final weekend
Inter A Boardsmill V Donaghmore: Coin flip - Ashbourne by 1 AET
Inter B Tones V St Pats: Tones by 9
Inter A Navan V Kildalkey: NOM by 2
Senior B Dunderry V BHG: BHG by 3
Senior A Kilmessan V Killyon: Kilmessan by 6
Senior B Na Fianna V Dunboyne: Na Fianna by 3
Senior A Kiltale V Kildalke: Kiltale by 1 AET

RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 12/09/2024 22:17:26    2569637

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Kilmessan 3-18 Killyon 0-14
Kildalkey 2-19 Kiltale 1-13

Inter quater final
Omahonys 2-17
Kildalkey 1-15

Boardmill 2-14
Ashbourne 1-12

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 761 - 12/09/2024 23:00:53    2569642

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Replying To RR:  "Qtr final weekend
Inter A Boardsmill V Donaghmore: Coin flip - Ashbourne by 1 AET
Inter B Tones V St Pats: Tones by 9
Inter A Navan V Kildalkey: NOM by 2
Senior B Dunderry V BHG: BHG by 3
Senior A Kilmessan V Killyon: Kilmessan by 6
Senior B Na Fianna V Dunboyne: Na Fianna by 3
Senior A Kiltale V Kildalke: Kiltale by 1 AET"
Almost a clean sweep for me.

Was up in Navan on both days. Credit to the board/supporters club, was a great set up for family on the Saturday with the fun zone and competitions etc

On the field, I mentioned Ashbourne's workrate in a past post and that's what won them the game. B'Mill will be kicking themselves for sitting back in second half of extra time and how they left someone like O Mealoid one on one inside the square was beyond me for the winning goal. Thought the young lad Daly in midfield for Ashbourne was brilliant, same with Danny Dixon for the Mill.

Kilmessan so, so comfortable even with a man down for the majority of the game. Was never really a contest.

Today was similar though I will say, the Navan and Kildalkey game was a bit off because for me, the referee was too whistle happy, ended up just being a free taking competition essentially. Kildalkey winning it all last year but only have the SHC ot cling on to now. Not that I'd write them off at all, very impressive over Kiltale

RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 15/09/2024 19:28:20    2569977

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If Kilmessan beat Ratoath in senior semi final, Kilmessan will be in all three finals with their three teams this year, like kildalkey last year.

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 761 - 15/09/2024 22:50:34    2570028

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Kildalkey last year was a combination of clubs not committing and lucky decisions. kilmessan are still in 3 championships and have won 28 titles. You can't beat tradition in the biggest clubs
It's too early for kilmessan this year but Trim will be praying Ratoath beat kilmessan in semi final

Gaelic_Games (Meath) - Posts: 21 - 15/09/2024 23:36:22    2570038

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Replying To Gaelic_Games:  "Kildalkey last year was a combination of clubs not committing and lucky decisions. kilmessan are still in 3 championships and have won 28 titles. You can't beat tradition in the biggest clubs
It's too early for kilmessan this year but Trim will be praying Ratoath beat kilmessan in semi final"
Are you really saying that the reason Kildalkey won the senior, Intermediate and Junior A was down to luck and other teams not committing?? Wow!!
I wouldn't be getting too carried away about being in semi finals of the junior A and B competitions for such a 'traditional' club. You have fallen a long way and have a long way to go before you back winning the big competitions.

Tobefair80 (Meath) - Posts: 69 - 16/09/2024 08:50:51    2570056

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Seen a few games over the weekend and in the senior i don't think Ratoath or Trim will be shaking in their boots after Kilmessan and Kildalkey's performances. Did just enough but the opposition wasn't the best to say the least.
Ratoath Trim Final with Ratoath to finally get their hands on some silverware.

Intermediate
Great to see Ashbourne in a semi final and in with a great chance of making a final, Boardsmill will be kicking themselves I'm sure.
Navan were very poor against a Kildalkey side missing over half of last years team, a very one dimensional team. Rathmolyon will be licking their lips but have a tendence to loose games that they should be winning.
Rathmolyon to win it out comfortably.

Tobefair80 (Meath) - Posts: 69 - 16/09/2024 09:36:13    2570069

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Replying To Tobefair80:  "Are you really saying that the reason Kildalkey won the senior, Intermediate and Junior A was down to luck and other teams not committing?? Wow!!
I wouldn't be getting too carried away about being in semi finals of the junior A and B competitions for such a 'traditional' club. You have fallen a long way and have a long way to go before you back winning the big competitions."
Pity about winning margins in the senior quarters, looks like Kildalkey have firmly put their opening round beating from Trim behind them and are peaking at right time. I think they will go on and win it.

No such competitiveness problems in the intermediate with 2 of the top teams already out in Kilskyre and Boaardsmill. Competition is wide open but I think it will be a Drumree vs Rathmolyon final. Ashbourne were lucky to get past Bmill who were a man down for over an hour and still nearly won it.

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 272 - 16/09/2024 09:49:59    2570077

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Replying To Gaelic_Games:  "Kildalkey last year was a combination of clubs not committing and lucky decisions. kilmessan are still in 3 championships and have won 28 titles. You can't beat tradition in the biggest clubs
It's too early for kilmessan this year but Trim will be praying Ratoath beat kilmessan in semi final"
What have Kilmessan won in the last 20 years?

Blueyellowandwhite (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 16/09/2024 11:09:14    2570093

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Replying To Blueyellowandwhite:  "What have Kilmessan won in the last 20 years?"
3 Senior Hurling titles which is more than Trim?
Only bettered over the past 20 years by Kiltale & Kildalkey who have 7 and 6 titles each respectfully.

Kilmessan also have an intermediate Leinster club in 2009 and were unlucky to lose to the Galway club in the AI semi finals.

Not a Kilmessan man but facts are facts.

bountyboy22 (USA) - Posts: 36 - 16/09/2024 12:04:24    2570107

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