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Wex Co Board making clubs in Wex give back money for development. €127k of the €1m. countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 727 - 02/02/2024 14:57:16 2523869 Link 0 |
There are 4 codes. Football, Hurling, Ladies Football and Camogie. There are 41 clubs in Donegal that are associated with at least one of the GAA, LGFA or Camogie association. Some clubs have just 1 code with one association. Some have 4 across the 3 associations. Separated by code, there are 81 different clubs. So the Donegal county board voted on if they want to split the £1m 81 ways (a club playing all 4 codes would get 4 shares) or 41 ways (same for each unique club regardless of how many codes they play). They voted for 41. And just for clarity the GAA were given the money and told to split it evenly with the other organisations clubs. They ask the LGFA and the Camogie for a list of all clubs. Then the Donegal GAA board voted on how to share it. So if there were stand alone LGFA or Camogie teams they didn't influence this. skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 02/02/2024 15:06:15 2523873 Link 0 |
The clubs all agreed to it... the county board are hardly making them do if it was agreed. 1k per club is hardly a big ask anyhow when the money is coming for nothing.
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1024 - 02/02/2024 16:26:51 2523889 Link 0 |
No suggestion of influence, though had the county board decided to go 81 ways the delegates would have voted that through also. In general there is only one club per parish in Donegal, but there's an outlier in the parish of Killygordon where there are three clubs - Setanta for hurling, Marciewicz for camogie, and Red Hughes for men's and ladies football. Setanta and Marciewicz are the Donegal Senior Champions in hurling and camogie. This is what the delegates voted for of course, but how was it found appropriate that the three clubs from the parish of Killygordon, population 3,100, receive €72k between them whilst other clubs from parishes the same size, who also promote each code equally will only receive €24k simply because they come under the 'One Club' principle. I have no problem with these clubs being independent from each other whatsoever and I'm picking on these clubs as it illustrates where there is a real issue. SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 437 - 02/02/2024 16:34:37 2523892 Link 0 |
The one club model is for where in the one club there are LGFA, Camogie and GAA teams. But there is one Executive with representatives from/to the 3 bodies. If the 3 clubs in Killygordon have 3 separate Executives, bank accounts, etc etc then they are 3 seperate clubs. Doesn't matter if they share pitches.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 02/02/2024 17:49:28 2523905 Link 1 |
Well if the delegate just voted it true the other way that wouldn't have happened
skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 02/02/2024 19:04:31 2523917 Link 0 |
Not the case that they were "made" to give it back. There are 127 clubs in Wexford across the three associations - 49 GAA, 41 camogie, and 37 LGFA. All had already committed to raising a set amount each for a fundraiser to be run by the three associations for further works at the Centre of Excellence. That's a key part of the agreement between the three Associations that will see Camogie and LFGA guaranteed access to it as well, unlike what's happened in some other counties. Then the JP McManus money came along unexpectedly for all 127 clubs. The option was then put to all the clubs at three separate Co. Board meetings of all three Associations that they could either go ahead with the fundraiser, or they could postpone it for a year and just make a donation from general clubs funds instead. And since the general club funds had just been boosted by the McManus money, it made that option much more feasible than it would have been otherwise. A large majority of clubs at all three meetings voted to make the donation and postpone the fundraiser for a year. They could just as easily have voted to go ahead with the fundraiser this year after all. Nobody "made" them do anything. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 02/02/2024 22:34:54 2523939 Link 0 |
LGFA have some neck disputing the payments in Donegal. They want to be equals, but they don't really. They are looking for positive discrimination or affirmative action or some such makey up nonsense, BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 03/02/2024 00:38:14 2523952 Link 0 |
That's not how it happened Countyman. The point was made that the 1000 euro wasn't to be a return of any of JPs money to the Board, rather it was a donation of a grand instead of having to raise money via the Quid Games.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 03/02/2024 07:32:00 2523959 Link 0 |
I see. Do they not make enough off clubs thru Model County? Basically a tax. Something happened in Carlow possibly with the donation too I think?
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 727 - 03/02/2024 08:44:12 2523973 Link 0 |
It's a real aside to the JP money, and of no real interest to anyone reading this thread who's not from Wexford, but have to say I've never really understood that attitude towards the Model County Draw, where many clubs seem to see it as a burden or a tax or a levy. It's actually a great opportunity for clubs to make a lot of money for themselves, if they go at it with the right attitude. My own club is consistently one of the top four or five sellers every year, and the Draw is consistently one of our top annual fundraisers. About four weeks of effort selling tickets, and we bring in somewhere as much as our Lotto draw does, but of course we have to sell Lotto all year round. We definitely couldn't do without the Model County Draw, and if it ever ended, it'd leave a massive hole in our annual budget that we'd have to try plug ourselves. It's definitely not seen as a burden or a tax around here anyway! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 03/02/2024 21:57:55 2524082 Link 1 |
Correct. If a GAA club has football and hurling sections, that is one club, not two. So if you had football, hurling, Ladies football and Camogie all played in same parish and operating out of the the same grounds, that should be three cheques written, not four or one! Per the JP letter, the funds must be 'evenly divided and distributed amongst the GAA, Camogie and LGFA clubs'.
LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 574 - 04/02/2024 15:26:51 2524218 Link 0 |