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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I thought it has been a fantastic league this year in all the divisions. Some great results and exciting promotions etc. On division one Monaghan survive again. Unreal. Surprised and sorry to see Armagh go down. A very talented team and unlucky in a couple of games. Would nt write them off in the championship if they find the right positions for certain players. Rossies a breath of fresh air. Hope Donegal sort out their off field problems. Looking forward to the finals now."
I second that. Some good games in testing conditions. There was a bit more intensity in the league this year -It's shaping up to be an exciting open championship.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 279 - 27/03/2023 14:38:20    2467092

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Tickets are up on Ticketmaster. Hogan must be kept for season ticket holders? Just Cusack, Davin and Hill tickets available.



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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 27/03/2023 15:14:28    2467107

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Replying To endgame:  "Armagh won't be sending any bouquets to Mayo. Mayo playing a largely second string team played a big part in relegating Armagh. Mayo at full tilt would have beaten Monaghan. There's an unfairness there somewhere."
If you don't take care of your own business then you can't complain. However in such a competitive Division it was unfortunate a county decided to effectively turn one of the rounds into a challenge match, there isn't a lot the GAA can do about it as each team will look after themselves.
We'll know in the next two weeks if their decision cost them momentum; if Galway win the league final and Roscommon win the championship game the decision made yesterday might be questioned.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 27/03/2023 17:26:26    2467139

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Tickets are up on Ticketmaster. Hogan must be kept for season ticket holders? Just Cusack, Davin and Hill tickets available.



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A good crowd on Sunday will be why the GAA will not want to remove the finals. It is fair enough.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 28/03/2023 09:04:20    2467216

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Cavan have won Division 4 and Division 3 in consecutive years. They are back where they belong in Division 2, if not higher. They are very unlucky that Sligo or Leitrim will qualify for the All-Ireland through Connacht.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 02/04/2023 13:24:01    2468242

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Can't get over how poor and normally solid Derry defence are today. As i Type 4 goals conceded should be 8. If they are that poor in defence in the championship it will be early exit for them.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3347 - 02/04/2023 15:17:31    2468264

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Derry technically won Division 2. Playing a final is unfair because Derry have one eye on the Ulster championship whereas Dublin don't have to worry until the group stages in late May.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 222 - 02/04/2023 18:25:37    2468335

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Derry technically won Division 2. Playing a final is unfair because Derry have one eye on the Ulster championship whereas Dublin don't have to worry until the group stages in late May."
It's not unfair at all. All teams are aiming to make top 2 knowing that they then have a shot at the title. Derry were very negative today. That type of football works in tight games but once the opposition starts pulling away it's difficult to chase a game with those blanket tactics. Dublin should have had 3 or more goals today and a few more points. Derry need to modify their game plan I think.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/04/2023 18:37:50    2468344

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Derry technically won Division 2. Playing a final is unfair because Derry have one eye on the Ulster championship whereas Dublin don't have to worry until the group stages in late May."
Derry had 4 home games in the regular league phase. Dublin had 3 home games in the regular league phase. Top 2 into the final is fair in that context.
Dublin of course had home advantage in the league final. Rural county successes in Croke Park always carry more weight in gold as they are achieved without the benefit of home advantage.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 02/04/2023 18:43:26    2468348

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Well done Mayo. Hard luck Galway. Ref gave us nothing today. That said, after beating Kerry in a really tight match, it was asking a lot to beat Mayo with a 7 day turnaround. Anyway hope Galway will learn from this.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 02/04/2023 18:45:48    2468350

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Derry technically won Division 2. Playing a final is unfair because Derry have one eye on the Ulster championship whereas Dublin don't have to worry until the group stages in late May."
Two points.

1. You don't know what the word 'technically' means.

2. Derry don't have to worry about the Ulster Championship. They've qualified for the last 16 same as Dublin. If they go fult tilt at Ulster then that's their choice.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 02/04/2023 19:01:05    2468356

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Replying To Joxer:  "It's not unfair at all. All teams are aiming to make top 2 knowing that they then have a shot at the title. Derry were very negative today. That type of football works in tight games but once the opposition starts pulling away it's difficult to chase a game with those blanket tactics. Dublin should have had 3 or more goals today and a few more points. Derry need to modify their game plan I think."
Let's call a spade a spade Joxer. Rory Gallagher has only one tool in the toolbox for the last 10 years.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 506 - 02/04/2023 19:32:13    2468371

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Derry technically lost the final, because tactically they were found wanting.

Playing so defensively and still conceeding 4 goals..

That's a 5hit show.

Tactics torn to shreds and not a good day at the office for the Derry management team.

Also technically it's not a true league format anyway..

As for it to be a true league it would entail playing each team home and away.

Congrats to Derry on their promotion, Dubs just have a bit of tin to show for the same result.

I think though that big congrats has to go to Dublin today,in that they dismantled the deep blanket today with a hop and skip, most satisfying as a supporter.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 02/04/2023 19:33:52    2468372

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Derry technically lost the final, because tactically they were found wanting.

Playing so defensively and still conceeding 4 goals..

That's a 5hit show.

Tactics torn to shreds and not a good day at the office for the Derry management team.

Also technically it's not a true league format anyway..

As for it to be a true league it would entail playing each team home and away.

Congrats to Derry on their promotion, Dubs just have a bit of tin to show for the same result.

I think though that big congrats has to go to Dublin today,in that they dismantled the deep blanket today with a hop and skip, most satisfying as a supporter."
An improvement yes Jimbo, but bloody hell - what was going on with all those wides and missed opportunities.

I couldnt believe my eyes in Croker today.

Need to get our shooting boots on for the Summer.

6pts wont be enough in the tougher games coming down the tracks.

We had more wides than scores today.

But defensively we looked better.

Time to ramp it up another notch now...

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3732 - 02/04/2023 19:54:10    2468383

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Derry had 4 home games in the regular league phase. Dublin had 3 home games in the regular league phase. Top 2 into the final is fair in that context.
Dublin of course had home advantage in the league final. Rural county successes in Croke Park always carry more weight in gold as they are achieved without the benefit of home advantage."
Would a 3 week break between league and championship help or make draws for championship after league is over and arrange teams in league finals to play later.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2013 - 02/04/2023 21:51:09    2468426

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Replying To galwayford:  "Well done Mayo. Hard luck Galway. Ref gave us nothing today. That said, after beating Kerry in a really tight match, it was asking a lot to beat Mayo with a 7 day turnaround. Anyway hope Galway will learn from this."
Mayo looked full of energy, and O'Shea is better playing closer to goal, where Murphy should have been. I'd no axe to grind in that game, but thought the ref was very harsh on Galway. On several occasions, when Galway fairly tackled a Mayo player in possession, he gave Mayo frees. Comer couldn't buy a free.

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 239 - 03/04/2023 07:58:37    2468432

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Would a 3 week break between league and championship help or make draws for championship after league is over and arrange teams in league finals to play later."
Mayo have won the league and are playing next week. Is there a problem? I would agree with a 2 week gap at least but with the split season it is difficult to find that extra week.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 03/04/2023 08:19:08    2468437

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Derry technically won Division 2. Playing a final is unfair because Derry have one eye on the Ulster championship whereas Dublin don't have to worry until the group stages in late May."
Technically, Derry were made look pretty poor by a team that's a shadow of the great one,

Just as they were totally dismantled by Galway last year. A decent team but a long way from where they need to be to win All Ireland, and Tyrone waiting in the long grass!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2557 - 03/04/2023 08:48:21    2468444

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Cavan have won Division 4 and Division 3 in consecutive years. They are back where they belong in Division 2, if not higher. They are very unlucky that Sligo or Leitrim will qualify for the All-Ireland through Connacht."
Very true.
The draw in Connaught means Cavan won't qualify via league placing.
Also, there is a chance Down could make Ulster final, which would take Meath's slot.

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 03/04/2023 08:48:34    2468445

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Replying To BlastCalyle:  "Very true.
The draw in Connaught means Cavan won't qualify via league placing.
Also, there is a chance Down could make Ulster final, which would take Meath's slot."
Mayo are playing 4 weekends in a row and are getting on with it. If there is support for a 2 week gap between the league finals and championship, it could be created as follows:
1-4. 4 rounds of the league.
5. Rest weekend.
6-9. 3 rounds of league and finals.
10. Rest weekend.
11. Provincial Championships start.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 03/04/2023 16:54:10    2468611

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