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Wexford Intercounty Hurling 2023

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Replying To Onionbagger:  "Is it a forgone conclusion he will be offered6an extension by westmeath"
https://www.westmeathindependent.ie/2023/05/30/fortune-non-committal-on-future-plans/
Seems like they want him to stay but he doesn't know. There have been no updates since this article.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16483 - 04/07/2023 08:35:45    2492020

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Replying To tearintom:  "Yep I agree.

I mean by the time the 18th of July comes and goes some clubs will have 2 hurling games left for the year with the vast majority having only 3 games left!! It's bonkers stuff really. Any new manager would see zero club games."
Senior games are all televised and anyone who might be interested in the job could still have been at a few games over the weekend. And for the next few weekends. Especially Intermediate and Inter A games.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16483 - 04/07/2023 08:37:41    2492022

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Replying To tearintom:  "Yep I agree.

I mean by the time the 18th of July comes and goes some clubs will have 2 hurling games left for the year with the vast majority having only 3 games left!! It's bonkers stuff really. Any new manager would see zero club games."
Do you realistically think there are players in the club system that have the potential to make a difference in next years county panel?

I saw three games this weekend and apart from players who we would know from the senior panel and 20s, it was very average.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 191 - 04/07/2023 08:43:03    2492026

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Are Wexford GAA thinking clearly?
This year, Wexford had a poor league, lost to Galway, Dublin, Westmeath and barely beat Antrim and Kilkenny.
The few interviews I read or heard were hatchet-jobs on the players, never took any accountability for throwing a 16 point lead away against the worst hurling team in the Liam McCarthy cup.
And they want this guy back? On what basis? From what I read and bits I saw, Wexford were shockingly bad this year.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1889 - 04/07/2023 09:14:36    2492034

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Do you realistically think there are players in the club system that have the potential to make a difference in next years county panel?

I saw three games this weekend and apart from players who we would know from the senior panel and 20s, it was very average."
There are lads who haven't committed yet and might never commit. Cullen, the Molloys, AJ, etc. There are some who got nutrition and S and C programmes last year from the intercounty management like Cathal Doyle who was nominated for the club championship team of the year last year. He was probably the best player in the 2 games on Sunday in New Ross, scoring 10 points 6 from play, and there were a good few intercounty players on show who played Senior and u20 championship games in the last few years for Wexford.
There are others who hurled underage for the county who would commit but never got asked, like Stephen O Gorman who hurled 2 years at u21 for Wexford and got nominated for last year's club team of the year also, and then over the last winter really put in a big effort in the gym and into his cardio fitness.
I'm sure every club has lads like these that the existing management team, or their replacements, should be looking at. They should also be looking at every keeper carefully as its turning into a problem position.
We don't have a huge pick or a hugely successful intercounty squad as it is. No stone should be left unturned. Even just 1 or 2 new lads who might be good enough to start a championship game for Wexford down the line would be a massive boost.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16483 - 04/07/2023 10:00:22    2492050

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Do you realistically think there are players in the club system that have the potential to make a difference in next years county panel?

I saw three games this weekend and apart from players who we would know from the senior panel and 20s, it was very average."
There are lads who haven't committed yet and might never commit. Cullen, the Molloys, AJ, etc. There are some who got nutrition and S and C programmes last year from the intercounty management like Cathal Doyle who was nominated for the club championship team of the year last year. He was probably the best player in the 2 games on Sunday in New Ross, scoring 10 points 6 from play, and there were a good few intercounty players on show who played Senior and u20 championship games in the last few years for Wexford.
There are others who hurled underage for the county who would commit but never got asked, like Stephen O Gorman who hurled 2 years at u21 for Wexford and got nominated for last year's club team of the year also, and then over the last winter really put in a big effort in the gym and into his cardio fitness.
I'm sure every club has lads like these that the existing management team, or their replacements, should be looking at. They should also be looking at every keeper carefully as its turning into a problem position.
We don't have a huge pick or a hugely successful intercounty squad as it is. No stone should be left unturned. Even just 1 or 2 new lads who might be good enough to start a championship game for Wexford down the line would be a massive boost.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16483 - 04/07/2023 10:00:33    2492051

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Why would Wexford take Liam Sheedy's word? If Rory Jacob was going for a job would they be asking Keith Rossiter what he thought of him as part of the u20 setup?"
Why wouldn't they take sheedy's word?? It's a character reference which people need for most jobs they apply for. He's also a two time all Ireland winning manager so his word carries some clout.

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 274 - 04/07/2023 11:34:17    2492089

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Are Wexford GAA thinking clearly?
This year, Wexford had a poor league, lost to Galway, Dublin, Westmeath and barely beat Antrim and Kilkenny.
The few interviews I read or heard were hatchet-jobs on the players, never took any accountability for throwing a 16 point lead away against the worst hurling team in the Liam McCarthy cup.
And they want this guy back? On what basis? From what I read and bits I saw, Wexford were shockingly bad this year."
I agree its scandalous its taking this long. Can't see how they can justify keeping Egan on. Even if Egan and co are staying on him and the management team should be attending several games this weekend but of course we are so slow in making the decision

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 04/07/2023 11:40:12    2492093

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Replying To Afinestick:  "I agree its scandalous its taking this long. Can't see how they can justify keeping Egan on. Even if Egan and co are staying on him and the management team should be attending several games this weekend but of course we are so slow in making the decision"
Egan was in Wexford Park last Friday evening anyway.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/07/2023 14:46:18    2492166

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Replying To Purpleandgold72:  "Why wouldn't they take sheedy's word?? It's a character reference which people need for most jobs they apply for. He's also a two time all Ireland winning manager so his word carries some clout."
So if somebody came to me and asked me about what I think of a fellow selector on the U14 team who was being considered for the Tipp u16 job, unless I really couldn't stand the guy what do you think I would say?
What do you expect Liam Sheedy to say only he's a great guy? Was he definitely asked? If he was, I would call Wexford's entire managerial selection process in to question. Could the interview committee not decide themselves?
Have you ever put somebody down as a reference who would not give you a glowing one?

Its not like they are asking Liam Dunne about somebody who he managed the John's with.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1417 - 04/07/2023 14:54:02    2492170

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "So if somebody came to me and asked me about what I think of a fellow selector on the U14 team who was being considered for the Tipp u16 job, unless I really couldn't stand the guy what do you think I would say?
What do you expect Liam Sheedy to say only he's a great guy? Was he definitely asked? If he was, I would call Wexford's entire managerial selection process in to question. Could the interview committee not decide themselves?
Have you ever put somebody down as a reference who would not give you a glowing one?

Its not like they are asking Liam Dunne about somebody who he managed the John's with."
I'd be pretty sure they didn't give Egan the job just because Sheedy told them too. I'd say whatever plan he put to them, and his interview, would've been the main things he was judged on, especially as he had no intercounty managerial experience. I'm sure it would've been the same for anyone. Yes he didn't have a good 2nd year in fact it was the poorest championship we have had since 2016. Yes I wouldn't be bothered if he had been let go after the Kilkenny game. The main criticism I'd have is of the Board in this. The process has took too long.
I've made up my mind that what I'd like to see is him given 1 more year with more years linked to performance, and an approach made to Tom Mulally at the end of the 2024 season if Egan doesn't get us to a Leinster final/AISF at the very least. I really couldn't care less about winning the League once we give valuable gametime to the newer panel members like Clarke, Higgins, Carty, Murphy, C Foley, Byrne Dunbar, Tucker, Clancy, Jack Doran, Richie Lawlor, Mcguckin, Hearne, Flood, Shane Reck, Joe O Connor, Devitt, Joe Coleman, Kyle and Conor Firman, Banville and have a good look at the other u20s who won't be u20 any more next year. Hopefully by next year all these lads will have put in a good winter of S and C work and if not they could be let go tbh. If he could get some of the Gorey and Rathnure lads to commit, AJ, the Molloys, Cullen etc I'd be pleased with that too. I'd want to see these lads playing with structure and intensity and winning a few League games against the top counties all the same though. Not thrown in into a situation where they can't succeed like this year. And if he unearthed some new panel members after this years championship that would be great too. But the real goal/yardstick has to be a good championship next year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16483 - 04/07/2023 15:45:27    2492201

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Egan was in Wexford Park last Friday evening anyway."
Can take that as he is very confident he will be staying on. Hopefully he brings someone new with fresh ideas into the setup perhaps Sheedy?

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 05/07/2023 09:10:54    2492319

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Can take that as he is very confident he will be staying on. Hopefully he brings someone new with fresh ideas into the setup perhaps Sheedy?"
After the way Liam Sheedy went on after the 2019 semi final and what he done to the team bus when they were pulling out I would rather not see him near it.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 838 - 05/07/2023 10:31:53    2492338

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Replying To countyman2022:  "After the way Liam Sheedy went on after the 2019 semi final and what he done to the team bus when they were pulling out I would rather not see him near it."
What did Sheedy do to the bus?

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 05/07/2023 11:37:33    2492369

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Who said Liam Sheedy recommended him? It has urban myth written all over it.
It would be very strange if Wexford did their business that way in my opinion.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1417 - 05/07/2023 12:22:09    2492387

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Replying To Afinestick:  "What did Sheedy do to the bus?"
Stuck his fingers up at the players and backroom staff on bus and shouted few expletives. Unsure why.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 838 - 05/07/2023 13:08:44    2492401

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Stuck his fingers up at the players and backroom staff on bus and shouted few expletives. Unsure why."
And still people think he was contacted for a reference? LOL one or both are urban myths. Both probably.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1417 - 07/07/2023 09:02:56    2492784

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "And still people think he was contacted for a reference? LOL one or both are urban myths. Both probably."
I still honestly don't know why people think it strange that when Darragh Egan was applying for the Wexford job and was under serious consideration for it, that the selection committee might have made a phone call to somebody he'd previously worked with.

As stated, it's not much different to any prospective employer contacting a previous employer for a reference.

I can't say for sure that they did contact Liam Sheedy, but I certainly wouldn't find the idea of it strange, and to my mind, it would have been negligent not to do so.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2963 - 07/07/2023 14:13:30    2492927

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why are there still didtrict boards in wexford, new ross gorey enniscorty and wexford? whats the point of them? what they doing co board cant? seems like the officers are just hanging on for a bit of power, the right to attend co board meetings and of course their all ireland tickets

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 3001 - 07/07/2023 14:23:28    2492929

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "why are there still didtrict boards in wexford, new ross gorey enniscorty and wexford? whats the point of them? what they doing co board cant? seems like the officers are just hanging on for a bit of power, the right to attend co board meetings and of course their all ireland tickets"
Someone has to organise the District Junior B competitions?!!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16483 - 07/07/2023 14:52:07    2492942

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