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Will the forum be the usual outlier over Christmas and closing unlike nearly every other. For a few days..

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3496 - 20/12/2022 16:03:05    2450824

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Will the forum be the usual outlier over Christmas and closing unlike nearly every other. For a few days.."
Probably so unfortunately. Its a shame they won't let us do shifts as moderators.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11732 - 20/12/2022 17:05:33    2450827

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "He had a slow start but was brilliant in the last couple of months. 7 goals in 13 games plus 5 in Champs League a heap of assists in both competitions. Also an injury in that time. Hardly fell off a cliff."
6 French league goals is what he scored all season which is far from brilliant and the season before he arrived at PSG he scored 30 La Liga goals and his peak league scoring season was 2012 with 50 goals in 37 games and the Spanish league is a higher standard than France.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 20/12/2022 17:52:48    2450831

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yes his form at PSG last year was puzzling. But I think we sometimes forget that players are human. He moved to Paris having spent most of his teenage years and all his adult life in Barcelona where he was undoubtedly the main man. From what I've read, PSG wouldn't be the most stable of environments with a lot of cliques and politiking going on.

They will be contenders for the CL again when it resumes. But quite how Galtier plans to inegrate Messi, Neymar and Mbappe into a cohesive attacking unit remains a mystery. I think a team can afford one superstar not doing the dirty work. But allowing three the same luxury just won't work. Someone is going to end up displeased. I have a feeling Neymar will be the man who throws the toys out."
Yes on paper PSG have names to win the champions league but is it possible to do so when their attacking talent are not going to put in the hard work defensively for their team?

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 20/12/2022 17:58:38    2450832

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Brilliant win delighted for Argentina and Messi, what a way to finish his magnificent career winning the World Cup,
Think that was the most nerve wrecking soccer final I've ever watched, looked like Argentina were strolling home till France got that penalty, tough on Mbappe scoring a hatrick in the World Cup final and still lose, he will have another chance though I have no doubt, I'd say France are a good bet to win the Euros in 2024.
I wonder does Shearer still think Argentina are not a good team? what a clown.
also wonder did they find the ball that Kane blasted over the bar yet?
That was a brilliant World Cup in Qatar, you'd have to laugh and the tv pundits sitting there talking about the migrant workers etc and them sitting there getting massive money for being there, if they feel that bad give some of their own millions to the migrant workers fund, they won't do that though, they'll talk plenty ***** about it though."
There's a card going about with the three wise men pointing up at the ball.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 20/12/2022 19:47:42    2450834

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Will the forum be the usual outlier over Christmas and closing unlike nearly every other. For a few days.."
Lol have a day off lad.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 20/12/2022 19:51:57    2450835

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yes his form at PSG last year was puzzling. But I think we sometimes forget that players are human. He moved to Paris having spent most of his teenage years and all his adult life in Barcelona where he was undoubtedly the main man. From what I've read, PSG wouldn't be the most stable of environments with a lot of cliques and politiking going on.

They will be contenders for the CL again when it resumes. But quite how Galtier plans to inegrate Messi, Neymar and Mbappe into a cohesive attacking unit remains a mystery. I think a team can afford one superstar not doing the dirty work. But allowing three the same luxury just won't work. Someone is going to end up displeased. I have a feeling Neymar will be the man who throws the toys out."
Can't see this PSG team winning the Champions League. Too many sunshine footballers who play as individuals rather than as a team. Most of them don't hate losing enough to win games ugly. Some talented footballers there but for me they're the most overrated European club side of the past 10 years or more. Always seemed to be touted as one of the favourites for the Champions League but continue to go hiding in the big games. 'Big' names alone won't win them big trophies. They need a coach who's not afraid to clash with the egos and put out the best side that can play ball and fight for each other.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 20/12/2022 20:30:17    2450837

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Can't see this PSG team winning the Champions League. Too many sunshine footballers who play as individuals rather than as a team. Most of them don't hate losing enough to win games ugly. Some talented footballers there but for me they're the most overrated European club side of the past 10 years or more. Always seemed to be touted as one of the favourites for the Champions League but continue to go hiding in the big games. 'Big' names alone won't win them big trophies. They need a coach who's not afraid to clash with the egos and put out the best side that can play ball and fight for each other."
True and I think to be fair to them they're at least trying to go in that direction now with Galtier. He's a pragmatic coach but there's no doubt that the likes to Mbappe, Messi & Neymar still call the tune to some extent. As good and all as Messi & Neymar are and have been, the time is soon coming where PSG should offload both and build the team around Mbappe with exactly the type of fighting players you mention.

The cynic in me wonders if PSG signed all 3 superstars with an eye on the World Cup. Is it coincidental that it was quite likely that one of Brazil, France or Argentina would win the World Cup in Qatar? As it turned out, they got two of their marquee men slugging it out in a match that I'll tell my grandchildren about. The emir got to hand over the trophy and a bisht to the winning captain in front of billions of people watching worldwide. Maybe I'm reading too much into it! :D

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 21/12/2022 09:50:08    2450846

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The absolute spoofers who questioned Messi will be hiding for a while now. The same spoofers who said he was only great because of Xavi and Iniesta at Barca. They will be absolutely sick today."
The world Cup as a spectacle was brilliant no doubt, the victors on the day Argentina deserve great credit, applause and all of that, Messi is no doubt a very popular player with a lot of neutrals and in particular the media and that's fair enough after all he did contribute to Argentinas WC victory, he scored 2 in the final, (as if you didn't already know.) 1 being a penalty, let it be said penalty's won it for Argentina, never the less they all count, the inability to put penalty's away cost France dearly.

After 90 min's plus injury time the sides were level, after extra time plus injury time the sides were still level, no more time allowed so it went to penalty's, that is where the game was won and lost.

Messi deserves great applause for his contribution to Argentinas performance on the day, however, because he is human it means he is not perfect, he is a mere mortal and is subject the constructive critism like any other player, he has been known to have missed sitters even in the WC competition.

MOTM, in my opinion was Kylian Mbappe I have no doubt about that and he did it all in 40 min's ish, along with that he scored a memorable hat trick. There is a case for both keepers to get a mention as well for motm for without either of those keepers it mattered little what Messi or indeed Mbappe scored as both teams would be on their way home long before full time, penalties not included.

If Messi is up there with the greats, so too is Neymar, Ronaldo, and Mbappe, etc, they are all human and subject to construction critism.

Congrats again to Argentina, Messi and all the players attached.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 21/12/2022 10:41:14    2450857

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Lol have a day off lad."
Says the lad obsessed with me

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3496 - 21/12/2022 11:22:16    2450865

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Replying To Breffni40:  "Maradona >>>> Messi"
This is still true

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 21/12/2022 12:48:23    2450878

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "What was going on with him with PSG last season? Mediocre French League whereby a player of his talent should be scoring goals for fun yet only managed 6 league goals. Perhaps the then PSG manager Poch should ship some of the blame or just the case that Messi was totally lost having left Barcelona after all those years.

This world cup was certainly his "last dance" and has left all a last memories."
I am dealing with the present season. He has been excellent.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 21/12/2022 12:54:18    2450879

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What do ye make of the behavior of Argentine keeper on team bus??he carried a doll with mbapee face on it..surely he could enjoy the victory without acting like a complete donkey as he did during shoot outs..I'm looking forward to seeing him back with Aston villaand making mistakes and see how he copes then..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2022 14:04:54    2450888

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "What do ye make of the behavior of Argentine keeper on team bus??he carried a doll with mbapee face on it..surely he could enjoy the victory without acting like a complete donkey as he did during shoot outs..I'm looking forward to seeing him back with Aston villaand making mistakes and see how he copes then.."
Yeah he comes across as a bit of a jackass alright. Fair enough (or not) doing what he did in the shootout. It was a World Cup final after all and players have done worse to get an upper hand in big games.

But his behaviour since with the Golden Gloves award and on the tour bus would make you wonder what kind of a half-wit is he. If it was a teenager you'd put it down to immaturity but the man is 30 years old.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 21/12/2022 15:01:54    2450894

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "What do ye make of the behavior of Argentine keeper on team bus??he carried a doll with mbapee face on it..surely he could enjoy the victory without acting like a complete donkey as he did during shoot outs..I'm looking forward to seeing him back with Aston villaand making mistakes and see how he copes then.."
If you are referring to my post, we'll as a previous poster said, I'm referring to the WC final, not extras or missalenious stuff.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 21/12/2022 15:15:07    2450896

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "What do ye make of the behavior of Argentine keeper on team bus??he carried a doll with mbapee face on it..surely he could enjoy the victory without acting like a complete donkey as he did during shoot outs..I'm looking forward to seeing him back with Aston villaand making mistakes and see how he copes then.."
I wouldn't mind but Mbappé beat him 4 times on the night

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 21/12/2022 15:32:28    2450900

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Supersub wasn't at all referring in any way to any previous post of yours..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2022 15:37:44    2450901

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "I am dealing with the present season. He has been excellent."
My original reply to you was in regards to what was going on with Messi with PSG last season? You had the view it was just a slow start even though his season total amounted to a mere 6 goals in average league which was far from excellent.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 21/12/2022 16:15:18    2450911

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Replying To supersub15:  "The world Cup as a spectacle was brilliant no doubt, the victors on the day Argentina deserve great credit, applause and all of that, Messi is no doubt a very popular player with a lot of neutrals and in particular the media and that's fair enough after all he did contribute to Argentinas WC victory, he scored 2 in the final, (as if you didn't already know.) 1 being a penalty, let it be said penalty's won it for Argentina, never the less they all count, the inability to put penalty's away cost France dearly.

After 90 min's plus injury time the sides were level, after extra time plus injury time the sides were still level, no more time allowed so it went to penalty's, that is where the game was won and lost.

Messi deserves great applause for his contribution to Argentinas performance on the day, however, because he is human it means he is not perfect, he is a mere mortal and is subject the constructive critism like any other player, he has been known to have missed sitters even in the WC competition.

MOTM, in my opinion was Kylian Mbappe I have no doubt about that and he did it all in 40 min's ish, along with that he scored a memorable hat trick. There is a case for both keepers to get a mention as well for motm for without either of those keepers it mattered little what Messi or indeed Mbappe scored as both teams would be on their way home long before full time, penalties not included.

If Messi is up there with the greats, so too is Neymar, Ronaldo, and Mbappe, etc, they are all human and subject to construction critism.

Congrats again to Argentina, Messi and all the players attached."
Messi deserves a huge amount of credit for such a career, in terms of quality and longevity.
In my opinion, he's the best footballer I've ever seen, and by a decent distance.
He's very popular with neutrals because of what he's done on the football pitch for over 15 years.
What he has achieved is on a completely different level to Neymar in terms of goals, assists, trophies won and performances in big games.
The players you mentioned are all great, no doubt, but there are different levels of greatness.
All players are human, and I pay little attention to what they do off the pitch, unless they're breaking the law or behaving terribly.
For a man of 35, his performances were outstanding. Aside from his penalties, he scored the breakthrough goal in a tense must-win match against Mexico, broke the deadlock in their first knockout match and of course scored a crucial goal in extra-time in the final. He also created a number of goals throughout the tournament.
Mbappe was brilliant for the last 10 minutes of normal time and continued to threaten in extra-time. He's an excellent young player who could go on to be one of the all-time greats.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2036 - 21/12/2022 16:31:17    2450914

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "The current strikes shown the flawed system of capitalism which is really coming home to roost in this cost of living crisis. Too many greedy people and greedy governments concerntrating wealth with a few people while nurses who were getting applauded during the pandemic are treated shamefully and expected to take pay awards far less than the rate of inflation and are rewarded for their vital work by a fall in their living standards."
Nurses working through an agency over Christmas are on £79 an hour. Nurses doing their usual shift are on around £19. That's a fact. Some nurses take time out and work through agencies.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 21/12/2022 16:34:48    2450915

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