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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "David Beckam, a champagne socialist? Beckham is a paid ambassador for the Qatar World Cup, and is reportingly, earning £150m for the role."
Yeah. That's what I mean. Goldenballs depicts himself as this squeaky clean, liberal. Until someone offers him a big pile of cash that is.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8277 - 11/11/2022 19:15:57    2447242

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Don't care who wins the World Cup as long as it's not England, suppose I'd love to see Argentina win it and Messi to get his world cup winners medal, I remember Maradona in his heyday, I think if Maradona had looked after himself better he was better than Messi and that's saying something, I don't remember Pele or players from that era, Mexico '86, hand of God followed by one of the greatest individual goals I ever seen.
Maradona got kicked around the place and still preformed,
alot of them now spend more time diving and cheating and it turns me off soccer but there is something special still about the World Cup for me that sets it miles above any club competition.
so for me it's ABE and hopefully Argentina and Messi can win it."
Big fan here of ABE, the thing that puzzles me is the amount of people drooling over the world cup and soccer on the whole. 0-0 draws all over the place, yet they run down GAA for being boring. If a soccer them kept the ball for 80 passes before they scored it would be shown over and over. GAA football is in a great place and people will see that coming up to the world cup final. Bit like snooker, I could watch an hour's safety play as quick as a 147.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1501 - 11/11/2022 19:25:43    2447246

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Don't care who wins the World Cup as long as it's not England, suppose I'd love to see Argentina win it and Messi to get his world cup winners medal, I remember Maradona in his heyday, I think if Maradona had looked after himself better he was better than Messi and that's saying something, I don't remember Pele or players from that era, Mexico '86, hand of God followed by one of the greatest individual goals I ever seen.
Maradona got kicked around the place and still preformed,
alot of them now spend more time diving and cheating and it turns me off soccer but there is something special still about the World Cup for me that sets it miles above any club competition.
so for me it's ABE and hopefully Argentina and Messi can win it."
Big fan here of ABE, the thing that puzzles me is the amount of people drooling over the world cup and soccer on the whole. 0-0 draws all over the place, yet they run down GAA for being boring. If a soccer them kept the ball for 80 passes before they scored it would be shown over and over. GAA football is in a great place and people will see that coming up to the world cup final. Bit like snooker, I could watch an hour's safety play as quick as a 147.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1501 - 11/11/2022 19:25:43    2447247

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So by her logic if Ireland had qualified she wouldn't watch it? Meaning she wouldn't support the mens team? This coming from someone who, I'm pretty confident, will more or less demand everyone support the womens team next year.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1157 - 11/11/2022 19:32:42    2447248

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Big fan here of ABE, the thing that puzzles me is the amount of people drooling over the world cup and soccer on the whole. 0-0 draws all over the place, yet they run down GAA for being boring. If a soccer them kept the ball for 80 passes before they scored it would be shown over and over. GAA football is in a great place and people will see that coming up to the world cup final. Bit like snooker, I could watch an hour's safety play as quick as a 147."
Ah the big soccer tournaments are great to watch but that's all. I'm very grateful we have the GAA. It's far from perfect but it's ours and you play for the love of the game and volunteer for the love of your club and team.

Soccer is corrupt to the core. When a country like Qatar hosts it you know it. Then you have have the likes of a Gary Neville who was dead against it and now is all for it…I wonder why…$$

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11054 - 11/11/2022 21:14:37    2447255

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Big fan here of ABE, the thing that puzzles me is the amount of people drooling over the world cup and soccer on the whole. 0-0 draws all over the place, yet they run down GAA for being boring. If a soccer them kept the ball for 80 passes before they scored it would be shown over and over. GAA football is in a great place and people will see that coming up to the world cup final. Bit like snooker, I could watch an hour's safety play as quick as a 147."
'people drooling over the world cup and soccer on the whole. 0-0 draws all over the place'

If you're going to slag off soccer (or any other sport), maybe you should educate yourself first, and not come on here showing your ignorance.
64 matches were played at the 2018 World Cup in Russia, none ended 0-0.
0-0 scores in the Premier League make up 7.5% of all the scores.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2061 - 12/11/2022 10:46:05    2447276

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Ah the big soccer tournaments are great to watch but that's all. I'm very grateful we have the GAA. It's far from perfect but it's ours and you play for the love of the game and volunteer for the love of your club and team.

Soccer is corrupt to the core. When a country like Qatar hosts it you know it. Then you have have the likes of a Gary Neville who was dead against it and now is all for it…I wonder why…$$"
"I'm very grateful we have the GAA. It's far from perfect but it's ours and you play for the love of the game and volunteer for the love of your club and team."

The vast majority of people involved in soccer, also play for the love of the game and volunteer for the love of their club and team'.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2061 - 12/11/2022 12:20:13    2447284

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Replying To oneoff:  "So by her logic if Ireland had qualified she wouldn't watch it? Meaning she wouldn't support the mens team? This coming from someone who, I'm pretty confident, will more or less demand everyone support the womens team next year."
Do you not have enough things to be angry without completely inventing issues? You're furious about a hypothetical situation based on nothing.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 11961 - 12/11/2022 12:31:50    2447285

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Replying To Breffni40:  "Do you not have enough things to be angry without completely inventing issues? You're furious about a hypothetical situation based on nothing."
Who says I'm furious about anything?

Just pointing out it's easy for the likes of McCabe to jump on their high horses with things like this. You really believe she wouldn't play if the women's World Cup was played in Qatar or anywhere else for that matter?

It seems it's you who's angry because I'm not falling over myself to agree with everything that part of Irish sports latest bandwagon has to say...

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1157 - 12/11/2022 13:23:44    2447290

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""I'm very grateful we have the GAA. It's far from perfect but it's ours and you play for the love of the game and volunteer for the love of your club and team."

The vast majority of people involved in soccer, also play for the love of the game and volunteer for the love of their club and team'."
I don't doubt and I've played soccer myself but I'm talking at the highest pro level here.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11054 - 12/11/2022 16:05:22    2447306

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "'people drooling over the world cup and soccer on the whole. 0-0 draws all over the place'

If you're going to slag off soccer (or any other sport), maybe you should educate yourself first, and not come on here showing your ignorance.
64 matches were played at the 2018 World Cup in Russia, none ended 0-0.
0-0 scores in the Premier League make up 7.5% of all the scores."
Don't worry about me, clapping a player for driving the ball into the stand for a sideline ball, lovely to watch alright. On your percentages, how many games where both teams score? Players walk about most of the time on a very small field, I've played in bigger playpens as a baby.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1501 - 12/11/2022 21:03:45    2447337

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Replying To Saynothing:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "'people drooling over the world cup and soccer on the whole. 0-0 draws all over the place'

If you're going to slag off soccer (or any other sport), maybe you should educate yourself first, and not come on here showing your ignorance.
64 matches were played at the 2018 World Cup in Russia, none ended 0-0.
0-0 scores in the Premier League make up 7.5% of all the scores."
Don't worry about me, clapping a player for driving the ball into the stand for a sideline ball, lovely to watch alright. On your percentages, how many games where both teams score? Players walk about most of the time on a very small field, I've played in bigger playpens as a baby."
What would gaelic football look like if there were only goals allowed? How defensive would it be? Each to their own in what they want to watch and I don't disagree with all your points about soccer. Some good 0-0 soccer games for me though with good defending which is sadly lacking more and more at the top level. Defensive midfielders papering up the cracks caused by some poor backlines. And social media raving about games like Spurs v Leeds yesterday, calling it a great game. Like watching basketball with neither team having a clue how to defend. Exciting to watch, no doubt, but neither team gonna achieve much defending like that

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 6880 - 13/11/2022 13:07:05    2447363

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "
Replying To Saynothing:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "'people drooling over the world cup and soccer on the whole. 0-0 draws all over the place'

If you're going to slag off soccer (or any other sport), maybe you should educate yourself first, and not come on here showing your ignorance.
64 matches were played at the 2018 World Cup in Russia, none ended 0-0.
0-0 scores in the Premier League make up 7.5% of all the scores."
Don't worry about me, clapping a player for driving the ball into the stand for a sideline ball, lovely to watch alright. On your percentages, how many games where both teams score? Players walk about most of the time on a very small field, I've played in bigger playpens as a baby."
What would gaelic football look like if there were only goals allowed? How defensive would it be? Each to their own in what they want to watch and I don't disagree with all your points about soccer. Some good 0-0 soccer games for me though with good defending which is sadly lacking more and more at the top level. Defensive midfielders papering up the cracks caused by some poor backlines. And social media raving about games like Spurs v Leeds yesterday, calling it a great game. Like watching basketball with neither team having a clue how to defend. Exciting to watch, no doubt, but neither team gonna achieve much defending like that"]Totally agree. I still play a bit of soccer at center back in the Donegal league. It's a long long way from Premier League level but the basics of defending are a skill in themselves. Knowing where to hold a line, Knowing when to press, defending set pieces, marking, playing through a high press etc might not look entertaining but if you're not doing them right you can forget about winning anything.

This might upset a few people but soccer is technically a way more difficult sport to play than gaelic football.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8277 - 13/11/2022 19:25:53    2447431

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What makes soccer such a brilliant sport is that it's much easier than other sports( Gaelic football for example to play at a basic level for children), but fiendishly difficult to master it as you progress.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 720 - 14/11/2022 19:16:36    2447588

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Replying To Malonemagic:  "What makes soccer such a brilliant sport is that it's much easier than other sports( Gaelic football for example to play at a basic level for children), but fiendishly difficult to master it as you progress."
Yeah that's it. As kids grow older the pace of the game increases therefore the technique and skill required to play it also significantly increases. The same is true for all ball sports of course but the key difference is that soccer can't be played with the hands.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8277 - 15/11/2022 10:22:24    2447614

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While I am a LOI fan I find it interesting how many of the social media soccer fans have said little about what happened during the FAI Cup final. Considering they normally claim these things are always highlighted when similar happens in GAA games.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1157 - 15/11/2022 12:27:29    2447632

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Replying To Malonemagic:  "What makes soccer such a brilliant sport is that it's much easier than other sports( Gaelic football for example to play at a basic level for children), but fiendishly difficult to master it as you progress."
You could say that about any sport. I can do all of the following to an average-to-poor standard (and I enjoy doing so):

- Gaelic football
- soccer
- boxing
- cycling
- skiing
- running

It was quite easy to do the basics of any of the above sports to a basic level, sufficient to allow me to have fun doing so.

But let's be clear - a good exponent of any of the above sports would obliterate me in minutes.

It's not difficult to be OK at any of the above sports, but it is very hard to be really expert at them.

So I struggle to see how you think soccer is unique in that respect.

And if you ever seen an average American bloke trying to have a soccer kickabout, you'd realise that even the basics of soccer are not that easily picked up either lol

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 104 - 15/11/2022 13:14:19    2447640

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Replying To oneoff:  "So Katie McCabe says she wouldn't play in a World Cup in Qatar. I wonder did anyone actually ask her or does she now think she needs to give an opinion on everything?"
OK, so you get to decide who's allowed to express an opinion?

Must be tough for you, what with women having the vote and all lol

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 104 - 15/11/2022 13:21:24    2447643

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "
Replying To GreenandRed:  "[quote=Saynothing:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "'people drooling over the world cup and soccer on the whole. 0-0 draws all over the place'

If you're going to slag off soccer (or any other sport), maybe you should educate yourself first, and not come on here showing your ignorance.
64 matches were played at the 2018 World Cup in Russia, none ended 0-0.
0-0 scores in the Premier League make up 7.5% of all the scores."
Don't worry about me, clapping a player for driving the ball into the stand for a sideline ball, lovely to watch alright. On your percentages, how many games where both teams score? Players walk about most of the time on a very small field, I've played in bigger playpens as a baby."
What would gaelic football look like if there were only goals allowed? How defensive would it be? Each to their own in what they want to watch and I don't disagree with all your points about soccer. Some good 0-0 soccer games for me though with good defending which is sadly lacking more and more at the top level. Defensive midfielders papering up the cracks caused by some poor backlines. And social media raving about games like Spurs v Leeds yesterday, calling it a great game. Like watching basketball with neither team having a clue how to defend. Exciting to watch, no doubt, but neither team gonna achieve much defending like that"]Totally agree. I still play a bit of soccer at center back in the Donegal league. It's a long long way from Premier League level but the basics of defending are a skill in themselves. Knowing where to hold a line, Knowing when to press, defending set pieces, marking, playing through a high press etc might not look entertaining but if you're not doing them right you can forget about winning anything.

This might upset a few people but soccer is technically a way more difficult sport to play than gaelic football."]"Knowing where to hold a line, Knowing when to press, defending set pieces, marking, playing through a high press etc might not look entertaining but if you're not doing them right you can forget about winning anything."

100% correct, but you're surely not trying to say that any of that is unique to soccer, are you? You've just summarised the basics of defending in any team sport.

"soccer is technically a way more difficult sport to play than gaelic football."

In what ways? Can you provide a full list of the skills of each game, and can you set up or point to an objective process whereby skills can be ranked against each other? I'd love to see Messi trying to field a high ball under pressure lol.

I think you're talking nonsense. All games have skills, and all games' skills are hard to do well.

If Gaelic football is that easy, I presume you captained Donegal then (in your sleep)?

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 104 - 15/11/2022 13:29:41    2447644

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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet:  "You could say that about any sport. I can do all of the following to an average-to-poor standard (and I enjoy doing so):

- Gaelic football
- soccer
- boxing
- cycling
- skiing
- running

It was quite easy to do the basics of any of the above sports to a basic level, sufficient to allow me to have fun doing so.

But let's be clear - a good exponent of any of the above sports would obliterate me in minutes.

It's not difficult to be OK at any of the above sports, but it is very hard to be really expert at them.

So I struggle to see how you think soccer is unique in that respect.

And if you ever seen an average American bloke trying to have a soccer kickabout, you'd realise that even the basics of soccer are not that easily picked up either lol"
I think the main difference is that you cannot use your hands in soccer. Using only your feet and head to manipulate the ball is a lot more difficult than being allowed to use your hands as in gaelic football, hurling and rugby for example.

I see it all the time coaching youngsters. The first reaction to any drill that's proving to be difficult is to use their hands.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8277 - 15/11/2022 13:38:26    2447650

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