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Replying To KillingFields:  "You dismiss it as a friendly when genuine sports fans see it as a test top level match between top teams in the world"
But what is a genuine fan ?

UtahBlaine (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 23/04/2024 18:18:29    2540231

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Why would irfu do it?
If there isn't problems as in trouble not people very occasionally having to let people by to get out of their seats then there's no reason to change"
Because the IRFU might be seen to be promoting a drink/alcohol culture . Or is it only the Gaa that are guilty of this sort of a crime . After all they were practically forced to distance themselves from all things alcohol related by lots of very concerned people including the Royal college of Surgeons no less. I'm sure your aware of all that .Not a peek from them though about all the alcohol on view every time we turn on our screens to watch Ireland play

UtahBlaine (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 23/04/2024 18:33:27    2540236

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Replying To UtahBlaine:  "But what is a genuine fan ?"
I meant to have inverted commas there.
What do you see as a "genuine" fan
I don't care who attends games as theyre there to support their team.
Do we need rules to say exactly how people are to act in a stadium....

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3704 - 23/04/2024 18:54:10    2540237

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Still a friendly no matter what order spin you put on it… leave the test matches to the cricket crowd..!"
You are showing your ignorance and snobbishness in a big way here.
It's not a friendly or "challenge"
Players don't treat it as such nor do fans or coaches

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3704 - 23/04/2024 18:56:31    2540238

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Replying To UtahBlaine:  "Because the IRFU might be seen to be promoting a drink/alcohol culture . Or is it only the Gaa that are guilty of this sort of a crime . After all they were practically forced to distance themselves from all things alcohol related by lots of very concerned people including the Royal college of Surgeons no less. I'm sure your aware of all that .Not a peek from them though about all the alcohol on view every time we turn on our screens to watch Ireland play"
What the sporting organisations should be doing is taking the sponsorship revenue from alcohol companies but get them to pay for promotion of alcohol awareness campaigns. Could use some role models to get the attention of our young people. Gambling Care are running a very good campaign right now using some GAA stars. I think peer pressure is a massive push for our youth to drink too much. Not sure many of them decide to go on the beer after watching people drinking in the stands at a live sports event. And excessive drink, drugs, gambling probably plays some part in youth suicide which we don't like to talk about. I think the more you ban people looking at drinking, drugs, gambling the more appealing it can look for some. But I'm all for banning drinking in seats if other supporters watching a game. Unfortunately that happens too if people arrive at a match too tanked up.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7709 - 23/04/2024 19:02:19    2540239

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Replying To galwayford:  "Well we have a Nationalist/Catholic First minister now. Would that have been possible in 1997. I don't think so. I was in tears watching this program. A decent man, tortured and shot by renegades. The INLA had recently killed a RUC/Police man. But Mr Brown had nothing to do with it."
There have been lots of Irish Catholics who have served as British administrators over the years. Don't think anyone thought they were fighting for that.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3306 - 23/04/2024 19:37:07    2540242

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Replying To KillingFields:  "I meant to have inverted commas there.
What do you see as a "genuine" fan
I don't care who attends games as theyre there to support their team.
Do we need rules to say exactly how people are to act in a stadium...."
Stadium Regulations are there for many a tear governing spectator behaviour!
Or are the superior rugger types exempt?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2028 - 23/04/2024 20:17:10    2540251

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Stadium Regulations are there for many a tear governing spectator behaviour!
Or are the superior rugger types exempt?"
Strange that the overwhelming majority of people who use the phrase rugger don't like the sport and have perceived beliefs based on little or no direct experience of the sport
They are regulations that often can differ between different sports and drinking at seats doesn't cause problems in rugby so don't see why it should be stopped especially as people who really want a drink can and will find ways. You will see at any game in croker people at their seats drinking alcohol in dome form if they really really want to

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3704 - 23/04/2024 21:42:21    2540275

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Looks like the Gaa rules will apply. I agree with that decision and hopefully the IRFU will apply the same rules to the Aviva."
I'm surprised, the two Munster games I went to in PuC allowed it.

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 304 - 23/04/2024 22:12:14    2540285

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Strange that the overwhelming majority of people who use the phrase rugger don't like the sport and have perceived beliefs based on little or no direct experience of the sport
They are regulations that often can differ between different sports and drinking at seats doesn't cause problems in rugby so don't see why it should be stopped especially as people who really want a drink can and will find ways. You will see at any game in croker people at their seats drinking alcohol in dome form if they really really want to"
I am not someone who hates rugger and go to plenty of games. But I have attended easily a couple of hundred GAA games in Croke Park and never had anyone drinking beside me in the stand. Not once.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8210 - 23/04/2024 23:01:02    2540300

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Replying To KillingFields:  "I meant to have inverted commas there.
What do you see as a "genuine" fan
I don't care who attends games as theyre there to support their team.
Do we need rules to say exactly how people are to act in a stadium...."
I should think so.

Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 295 - 23/04/2024 23:34:20    2540303

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Replying To KillingFields:  "I meant to have inverted commas there.
What do you see as a "genuine" fan
I don't care who attends games as theyre there to support their team.
Do we need rules to say exactly how people are to act in a stadium...."
Of course we need rules…. We don't want to see the rugger crowd falling about the place carrying trays of drink while others try and watch the match….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3307 - 24/04/2024 07:20:41    2540319

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Of course we need rules…. We don't want to see the rugger crowd falling about the place carrying trays of drink while others try and watch the match…."
But rugby fans don't fall about carrying trays of drink
Weird that you can't say rugby and deliberately type a longer word just to wum.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3704 - 24/04/2024 10:06:28    2540349

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Belfast City Council are attempting to promote the learning and use of the Irish Language within the city. Belfast had a great history with the Language and it was badly neglected under the Stormont administration. Unfortunately a Unionist/Loyalist element are still trying to stymie any funding of Irish Language projects and it's sectarian bigotry at it's worst.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9791 - 24/04/2024 13:45:21    2540410

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Belfast City Council are attempting to promote the learning and use of the Irish Language within the city. Belfast had a great history with the Language and it was badly neglected under the Stormont administration. Unfortunately a Unionist/Loyalist element are still trying to stymie any funding of Irish Language projects and it's sectarian bigotry at it's worst."
Is there any interests among the Catholic /nationalist community in learning the language?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 25/04/2024 05:15:23    2540523

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Is there any interests among the Catholic /nationalist community in learning the language?"
There are plenty in areas of Belfast who use the language including 2 Gaeltachts in West Belfast, another Gaeltacht in South Derry, and Irish speaking areas of Tyrone and Antrim that I've been in. These, like some areas in the South, are "revival areas", as people who were reared up speaking Irish died out by the 1970s or so.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14317 - 25/04/2024 09:21:52    2540551

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Is there any interests among the Catholic /nationalist community in learning the language?"
There absolutely is. There's some great work being done and a growing number of people speaking the language.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2227 - 25/04/2024 10:00:08    2540557

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Replying To Viking66:  "There are plenty in areas of Belfast who use the language including 2 Gaeltachts in West Belfast, another Gaeltacht in South Derry, and Irish speaking areas of Tyrone and Antrim that I've been in. These, like some areas in the South, are "revival areas", as people who were reared up speaking Irish died out by the 1970s or so."
Irish speaking areas in Tyrone? Not for at least 100 years unfortunately. There are great efforts being made through Gaelscoileanna and other initiatives but unfortunately on the same limited scale as in Dublin and other parts of the country.

Gaeltachts in this part of island themselves are under more pressure now through demands on schools to teach English, as well as the difficulties of local people being able to build and buy homes than they have been for decades.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3306 - 25/04/2024 10:29:07    2540564

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Irish speaking areas in Tyrone? Not for at least 100 years unfortunately. There are great efforts being made through Gaelscoileanna and other initiatives but unfortunately on the same limited scale as in Dublin and other parts of the country.

Gaeltachts in this part of island themselves are under more pressure now through demands on schools to teach English, as well as the difficulties of local people being able to build and buy homes than they have been for decades."
https://fluentirish.com/irish-language-in-tyrone/

Some reading for you Barney

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14317 - 25/04/2024 11:16:37    2540576

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Replying To Viking66:  "https://fluentirish.com/irish-language-in-tyrone/

Some reading for you Barney"
Seriously, do not insult my intelligence.

Níl aon Gaeltacht i Tír Eoghain. Fuair an teanga beo bás fadó. Tá gaeligoirí sa contae, mar aon le gach contae eile sa tír.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3306 - 25/04/2024 16:33:15    2540634

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