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Tyrone Vs Derry

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If there was ever a potential banana skin then this is it.

I am not overly confident based on how we have been performing to date.

Hopefully we will scrape through by a couple of points.

What's others thoughts on this game?

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 27/04/2022 07:15:42    2413475

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Replying To Wally:  "If there was ever a potential banana skin then this is it.

I am not overly confident based on how we have been performing to date.

Hopefully we will scrape through by a couple of points.

What's others thoughts on this game?"
I'm confident to be honest. They have lost McFall and Doherty and rumours are that McKindless is going to America so all isn't well in the camp by the sounds of it.

Now we will have to play to our best ability to win but i feel if we can nullify McGuigan, who scores a high percentage for them, and keep scorable frees to a minimum we should be ok.

Tyrone certainly aren't playing well this year but we will have enough to come though.

Conn Kilpatrick and Conor Glass's battle in midfield will be brilliant.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 27/04/2022 12:59:55    2413592

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From our experience in the past, Rory will have Derry we'll set up. If I was asked a few months ago I fancied Derry. But since the Galway game I have changed my mind big time. Once players start leaving a squad a couple of weeks out from championship things are not right. Rory's man management skills were never the best. Tyrone by 5

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2401 - 27/04/2022 13:28:05    2413607

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I think it will go similar to the last time we met in Ulster in 2019 with Derry playing well but Tyrone coming out stronger in the last quarter. Really impressed with Derry when they played Donegal last year but not sure they have kicked on.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 27/04/2022 13:28:35    2413609

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "I'm confident to be honest. They have lost McFall and Doherty and rumours are that McKindless is going to America so all isn't well in the camp by the sounds of it.

Now we will have to play to our best ability to win but i feel if we can nullify McGuigan, who scores a high percentage for them, and keep scorable frees to a minimum we should be ok.

Tyrone certainly aren't playing well this year but we will have enough to come though.

Conn Kilpatrick and Conor Glass's battle in midfield will be brilliant."
Fair enough points Fridge.

My main concerns were around how we have been performing but didn't actually realise the issues within the Derry squad.

Hopefully it is a tight enough match as it would be good preparation playing Fermanagh and Derry before playing Monaghan. I would imagine that Monaghan ease past Down which wouldn't be the best preparation for playing Tyrone.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 27/04/2022 14:31:26    2413644

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I was impressed with how Derry were going about their business earlier in the year. But they then suffered a wobble with promotion from Div 2 in sight. Plus there have now been a few withdrawals from the squad which does not bode well. It must be maddening for Derry supporters as yet again they will not be playing with a full deck. Maybe it doesn't bother them all that much though? Club rivalry seems to be more important than the county going well.

I think Tyrone should get through this although maybe not as easily as they've disposed of Derry in the recent past. Hopefully we see a more intense game than we did last weekend in the Ulster championship games.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9133 - 27/04/2022 14:37:32    2413646

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Tyrone will win pulling up.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 27/04/2022 14:37:52    2413647

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I expect Tyrone to win and cruise into the Ulster final, should be an interesting game though, I think Tyrone will improve more as the season progresses.
Tyrone by 5+

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 27/04/2022 20:58:33    2413742

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Replying To Wally:  "If there was ever a potential banana skin then this is it.

I am not overly confident based on how we have been performing to date.

Hopefully we will scrape through by a couple of points.

What's others thoughts on this game?"
If Tyrone are thinking of anywhere near Croke Park they need to win this by 7/8 points at least which i think they will. Work on an early lead and work through the panel with 20 minutes to go. Bigger games to come.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2012 - 27/04/2022 22:03:12    2413752

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Well unfortunately my reservations were correct.

Fair play to Derry. They were fantastic today. All their big players stood up and they played some great football.

It also has to be said though that Tyrone were horrible. I mean the polar opposite of the type of football we seen last year.

They might get a few favourable draws in the qualifiers to regroup but I would almost like us to be put out early this year rather than suffer an even more humiliating result against Dublin or Kerry later in the year. I think 2 big losses like that could undo all the momentum we have gained.

Rory Gallagher also needs to be very mindful of his players getting carried away with that result. He needs to get them grounded ASAP. Tyrone were so bad and Monaghan will be a completely different animal in the semi final.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 01/05/2022 17:45:31    2414415

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Fair play to Derry, very unlucky to lose to us last year. I would bet on a Derry V Donegal final and either team could win that one.

Tyrone were shocking with their usual ill discipline.

Ronan1989 (Donegal) - Posts: 81 - 01/05/2022 17:53:25    2414420

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Massive well done to Derry, did not expect that level of performance from either team, Derry will be confident now going in against Monaghan, what a game that should be, impossible to call. Can't see everything going as well again for Derry and Monaghan are so good and so dogged,
one things for sure, the Ulster Championship is brilliant.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 01/05/2022 18:11:22    2414431

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "Tyrone will win pulling up."
Meant to say Derry...

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 01/05/2022 18:23:11    2414435

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Replying To Wally:  "Well unfortunately my reservations were correct.

Fair play to Derry. They were fantastic today. All their big players stood up and they played some great football.

It also has to be said though that Tyrone were horrible. I mean the polar opposite of the type of football we seen last year.

They might get a few favourable draws in the qualifiers to regroup but I would almost like us to be put out early this year rather than suffer an even more humiliating result against Dublin or Kerry later in the year. I think 2 big losses like that could undo all the momentum we have gained.

Rory Gallagher also needs to be very mindful of his players getting carried away with that result. He needs to get them grounded ASAP. Tyrone were so bad and Monaghan will be a completely different animal in the semi final."
Gallagher has had Monaghans number the last two occasions he has met them in ulster semi finals so he will be confident. His fermanagh side were v tough opposition in 18 after we beat tyrone now shoe on other foot so be interesting. Monaghan well familiar with tyrone but think its our first championship meet with Derry since the days of the Bradley brothers and Freemans going back a while. 50 50 semi final id say with slight edge towards Derry look to be coming side in Ulster but no better outfit than monaghan to tear up the script. Its a massive result for Derry today and no offence to tyrone but great for ulster championship to have strong Derry side back.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 01/05/2022 18:56:28    2414448

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Tyrone proving last year was a fluke. Very poor stuff. Hard for them to win when they don't play against 14 men for an entire match or mess Kerry around with fixtures.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1142 - 01/05/2022 18:56:41    2414449

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Replying To Wally:  "Well unfortunately my reservations were correct.

Fair play to Derry. They were fantastic today. All their big players stood up and they played some great football.

It also has to be said though that Tyrone were horrible. I mean the polar opposite of the type of football we seen last year.

They might get a few favourable draws in the qualifiers to regroup but I would almost like us to be put out early this year rather than suffer an even more humiliating result against Dublin or Kerry later in the year. I think 2 big losses like that could undo all the momentum we have gained.

Rory Gallagher also needs to be very mindful of his players getting carried away with that result. He needs to get them grounded ASAP. Tyrone were so bad and Monaghan will be a completely different animal in the semi final."
You were certainly right Wally.

Fair play to Derry….game plan worked a treat and I wasn't expecting it. I thought Derry would do an "Armagh" like last week but I was sadly mistaken.

Tyrone's big players didn't show up, McGeary is back to the McGeary of a few years ago, Harte wasn't fit, Sludden poor, Brennan poor, Hampsey poor, McShsne non existent. McKenna poor.

Add in the stupid denting off by Kennedy it was curtains.

As I said fair to Derry, Monaghan up next for them. Good luck

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 01/05/2022 19:24:44    2414460

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On that performance the next day out will be Tyrones last this year. Woeful. What's gone wrong? Not a patch on last year . Derry were brilliant but Monaghan will be playing football unlike Tyrone.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 01/05/2022 19:50:55    2414470

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Everything I read states that Tyrone were poor. Why? Derry were excellent, played good controlled football and took our chances when presented. To go to Omagh and score 1-18 and only concede 10 points against the current All Ireland Champions.

Derry and Rory deserves all the plaudits, people need to stop being disrespectful. There was only 3 players on that Derry team today that sampled a victory in the Ulster Championship.

Monaghan will bring a different challenge but I am sure Rory will have the team well prepared. It will be another close game and Derry will have to bring a similar performance with more intensity.

In finishing, delighted to see Derry bring a complete team performance to he table in the Ulster Championship.

Gaelbhoy21 (Derry) - Posts: 3 - 01/05/2022 20:26:00    2414479

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Replying To TheRock2121:  "Tyrone proving last year was a fluke. Very poor stuff. Hard for them to win when they don't play against 14 men for an entire match or mess Kerry around with fixtures."
I hate this revisionist nonsense. Today doesn't prove anything about last year's All-Ireland win, apart from the fact that they're well off the level they showed last August and September. It's not the first time it's happened to them the year after winning.
You don't beat Kerry after 90+ minutes of football by fluke. Neither do you outplay Mayo in a final by chance. Tyrone were a breath of fresh air in the latter stages of last year's championship. They were miles off that today.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2039 - 01/05/2022 20:44:09    2414484

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It was a deserved victory for Derry, they were well prepared and looked the better or more energised side before Kennedy was sent off on the 25th minute. However before the sending off and penalty goal opened up a huge lead, I still expected Tyrone to adapt and come back strong. But Derry really controlled the game after that and Tyrone struggled to get traction.

I think the quality of Derry's individual defenders came to the fore, Brendan Rogers, Chrissy McKaigue and Gareth McKindless really kept a leash on Tyrone's danger men and with Kennedy gone, Derry started to run riot in midfield.

I think Monaghan will be a very different beast the next day, as Tyrone didn't play with any real intensity or energy. I'm not taking away from what Derry achieved, but Tyrone even looked lethargic against Fermanagh the last day out and Rory Gallagher will know that and try to get everybody grounded for the Monaghan challenge. Monaghan will be hard to contain.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1112 - 03/05/2022 11:44:01    2414519

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