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Replying To baire:  "The only reason he'd want Galway in Leinster would be to sharpen his team for the AISF!"
Absolutely. They needed that between 02-08....

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 195 - 15/06/2022 19:54:04    2425245

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Oh boy,the Gaa have just declared open season for any off the ball stuff for rest of championship..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1711 - 15/06/2022 21:47:52    2425258

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Cork won't win the All Ireland…. Watched them stumble by us in Corrigan last week. The scoreline at end was unfair on performance of the Staffs. I hope DG stays on with us as the progress been remarkable

AntrimJim (Antrim) - Posts: 39 - 16/06/2022 08:45:05    2425267

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I can't see why Clare and Galway players have been let off on a technicality- I wonder if it will affect their game knowing they shouldn't be there.

At the double header three counties will be shouting for Wexford, especially now

Let's hope the team give them something to shout about.

We need to stay in the game as long as possible and not fail to show up for the first 20 minutes like last year.

If we can keep in the game til the final ten minutes the roar of the crowd could energise the Wexford players and hopefully see us over the line.

It will our toughest challenge this season by far but we have to believe we can keep in the game if we keep the fouling to a minimum and come out on top in some key battles.

Reck vs T Kelly
Ryan vs Duggan
Mac vs Cleary
Hayes vs Rory o Connor

Chins free taking needs to be better than ever.

Bring the intensity we brought to Nowlan Park and we should have a good chance.

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 491 - 16/06/2022 09:53:28    2425275

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Oh boy,the Gaa have just declared open season for any off the ball stuff for rest of championship.."
It's mad stuff. Looks like you can flake away once ref doesn't spot it. This will only embolden players to continue with the dirty stuff

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 236 - 16/06/2022 10:01:11    2425277

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Oh boy,the Gaa have just declared open season for any off the ball stuff for rest of championship.."
I said to a couple of Wexicans who were discussing this in our club last night, my very words were "there is a 0% chance of those lads not lining out on Saturday, it might be Friday night before they are cleared but they will be".

What does this say of the GAA's disciplinary system? Is it now open season and do what you like once you don't get caught? I did things on the field in the late 80's and 90's in Dublin club hurling which I was not proud of. But if I had been sent off, I wouldn't have been looking to appeal, or get off on a technicality.

The real issue here is, the GAA WANT a Limerick/Clare All-Ireland final and are terrified that somebody might deny them that. You can bet your bottom dollar, if that was Lee Chin or Rory O'Connor in the dock, or anybody not from one of the "protected status" counties, neither would have got off.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 195 - 16/06/2022 10:12:26    2425284

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Not sure this whole process will have worked out in Clares favour . The bans were black and white esp fahy and Hayes for me. I don't see shefflin starting Fahy personally. Clare felt aggrieved now possibly a little embarrassed. From a psychology perspective that's tricky.

No excuses from clare now. Looking forward to Saturday. The GAA is amateur in every sense bar the players and back room teams .

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 797 - 16/06/2022 11:25:44    2425320

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Replying To AntrimJim:  "Cork won't win the All Ireland…. Watched them stumble by us in Corrigan last week. The scoreline at end was unfair on performance of the Staffs. I hope DG stays on with us as the progress been remarkable"
As a reward for winning the Joe Mc Antrim should have been given at least a fortnight for the Cork game.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1268 - 16/06/2022 11:36:55    2425331

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Replying To AntrimJim:  "Cork won't win the All Ireland…. Watched them stumble by us in Corrigan last week. The scoreline at end was unfair on performance of the Staffs. I hope DG stays on with us as the progress been remarkable"
Fantastic progress and great to see. I won't be saying that if we have to travel to Corrigan park next year in Leinster but the road trips are part of it so should be great.

WEXILE_AGAIN (Wexford) - Posts: 9 - 16/06/2022 12:14:40    2425342

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There will be red cards in Thurles now after that ruling last night. Watch the ame scenario with appeals play out now before the semis. Do we want a game with punches and dirty strokes in it?....well thats what the ruling seems to suggest

WEXILE_AGAIN (Wexford) - Posts: 9 - 16/06/2022 12:17:47    2425346

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Replying To Yellow:  "I can't see why Clare and Galway players have been let off on a technicality- I wonder if it will affect their game knowing they shouldn't be there.

At the double header three counties will be shouting for Wexford, especially now

Let's hope the team give them something to shout about.

We need to stay in the game as long as possible and not fail to show up for the first 20 minutes like last year.

If we can keep in the game til the final ten minutes the roar of the crowd could energise the Wexford players and hopefully see us over the line.

It will our toughest challenge this season by far but we have to believe we can keep in the game if we keep the fouling to a minimum and come out on top in some key battles.

Reck vs T Kelly
Ryan vs Duggan
Mac vs Cleary
Hayes vs Rory o Connor

Chins free taking needs to be better than ever.

Bring the intensity we brought to Nowlan Park and we should have a good chance."
"I can't see why Clare and Galway players have been let off on a technicality- I wonder if it will affect their game knowing they shouldn't be there."

If anything it should only affect their game positively. That they got away with clear offences, will only embolden them more and make them more stubborn and brazen. And the realization that it was a game they 'almost' missed and that they 'almost' let their teammates down, should spur them on to even greater deeds, just like the a man being reprieved from the gallows.

I can see Duggan being man of the match even; bagging a hatrick of goals. And Hayes will hold ROC, like a vice-grip.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1204 - 16/06/2022 12:19:55    2425347

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I said to a couple of Wexicans who were discussing this in our club last night, my very words were "there is a 0% chance of those lads not lining out on Saturday, it might be Friday night before they are cleared but they will be".

What does this say of the GAA's disciplinary system? Is it now open season and do what you like once you don't get caught? I did things on the field in the late 80's and 90's in Dublin club hurling which I was not proud of. But if I had been sent off, I wouldn't have been looking to appeal, or get off on a technicality.

The real issue here is, the GAA WANT a Limerick/Clare All-Ireland final and are terrified that somebody might deny them that. You can bet your bottom dollar, if that was Lee Chin or Rory O'Connor in the dock, or anybody not from one of the "protected status" counties, neither would have got off."
Total an utter rubbish....

If you think for a second that Clare GAA have "protected status" you know nothing about hurling. What I would love to know is who you believe the counties with protected status is?

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2247 - 16/06/2022 12:58:17    2425367

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Total an utter rubbish....

If you think for a second that Clare GAA have "protected status" you know nothing about hurling. What I would love to know is who you believe the counties with protected status is?"
Of course they do. Munster teams in general are treated differently.
Do you really think a Wexford, Offaly etc player would've gotten off? Fahy's suspension had to be over turned because the 2 Clare lads was.
Do you think they'd fix a Munster final for 7 o clock on a Saturday eve?? No chance..
Practically all of the Leinster championship of televised via sky !!
I'm very happy Clare have a full strength team out and I hope TK is fully fit too but there I'd def a major bias towards Munster teams.

twbm (Clare) - Posts: 23 - 16/06/2022 13:51:47    2425390

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I said to a couple of Wexicans who were discussing this in our club last night, my very words were "there is a 0% chance of those lads not lining out on Saturday, it might be Friday night before they are cleared but they will be".

What does this say of the GAA's disciplinary system? Is it now open season and do what you like once you don't get caught? I did things on the field in the late 80's and 90's in Dublin club hurling which I was not proud of. But if I had been sent off, I wouldn't have been looking to appeal, or get off on a technicality.

The real issue here is, the GAA WANT a Limerick/Clare All-Ireland final and are terrified that somebody might deny them that. You can bet your bottom dollar, if that was Lee Chin or Rory O'Connor in the dock, or anybody not from one of the "protected status" counties, neither would have got off."
I agree

Clare love to be the martyr and the underdog and think the whole world is against them.

The shoe is on the other foot now Clare have two players under the microscope with the whole country knowing what they did and gotten away with. Playing the cleanest team in the country and every neutral up for Wexford.

If this match was Clare vs Kilkenny plenty of people would fancy Kilkenny

We beat Kilkenny


Remember that

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 491 - 16/06/2022 13:53:28    2425391

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No major surprise that the bans were overturned. Bans rarely have been served for years. Did hayes/Duggan deserve a ban more than Flanagan deserved one after last years Munster final (certainly wasnt career ending belts...)? Less likely to cause major or career ending injuries...both deserved bans but rarely happens. Even from a club perspective I've seen our own club benefit from quashed or reduced bans. I dont see how there should be an appeal process for incidents like the two Clare ones. If someone gets sent off and there was an obvious error from the referee then that should be the only grounds for appeal. How can you quash bans that were reviewed after - whats left to review? Should also be very clear guidelines on trial from tv. Are all games reviewed after - if thats not possible then none should be.
You'd have to have a lot of respect for Mullane who refused to let Waterford appeal his ban. Galway most definitely should have accepted Fahys ban...and the player should have stood up and said he wasnt appealing. A real cowardly act that he clearly has taken no responsibility for.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3486 - 16/06/2022 14:16:57    2425400

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Replying To foreveryoung:  ""I can't see why Clare and Galway players have been let off on a technicality- I wonder if it will affect their game knowing they shouldn't be there."

If anything it should only affect their game positively. That they got away with clear offences, will only embolden them more and make them more stubborn and brazen. And the realization that it was a game they 'almost' missed and that they 'almost' let their teammates down, should spur them on to even greater deeds, just like the a man being reprieved from the gallows.

I can see Duggan being man of the match even; bagging a hatrick of goals. And Hayes will hold ROC, like a vice-grip."
Cant see Hayes holding Rory O'C. Hes too lose and likes hurling ball too much. O'Connor will score heavily if he can get enough ball in to him. I'd have Flanagan on him...he has really impressed this year. Does anyone know why he took so long to make the step up? Had he serious injuries?

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3486 - 16/06/2022 14:19:26    2425401

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Replying To WEXILE_AGAIN:  "There will be red cards in Thurles now after that ruling last night. Watch the ame scenario with appeals play out now before the semis. Do we want a game with punches and dirty strokes in it?....well thats what the ruling seems to suggest"
If it means more of what we get in the Munster final and theres no injuries then a few red cards might not be the worst thing! A lot of counties including my own have little physicality in their play the last couple of years.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3486 - 16/06/2022 14:21:25    2425402

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Replying To baire:  "As a reward for winning the Joe Mc Antrim should have been given at least a fortnight for the Cork game."
Why? Not sure if you follow soccer but should the Europe league finalists get into the latter stages of the CL? I can see the reasons for it but when you think about it, its a crazy system. Should the Tailteann cup winners get into the latter stages of the All Ireland series and avoid the grueling qualifier route? Its ridiculous.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3486 - 16/06/2022 14:24:23    2425404

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I said to a couple of Wexicans who were discussing this in our club last night, my very words were "there is a 0% chance of those lads not lining out on Saturday, it might be Friday night before they are cleared but they will be".

What does this say of the GAA's disciplinary system? Is it now open season and do what you like once you don't get caught? I did things on the field in the late 80's and 90's in Dublin club hurling which I was not proud of. But if I had been sent off, I wouldn't have been looking to appeal, or get off on a technicality.

The real issue here is, the GAA WANT a Limerick/Clare All-Ireland final and are terrified that somebody might deny them that. You can bet your bottom dollar, if that was Lee Chin or Rory O'Connor in the dock, or anybody not from one of the "protected status" counties, neither would have got off."
It says your disciplinary system is a joke to begin with when you decided to take action against these players. T.V. replay to discipline two players ? Probably influenced by the commentary that went along with it. Continuous flawed slow downed replays for many incidents. Get your own coverage maned by qualified people. Until them stick with the 7 officials on the field and may be try and upgrade them.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2104 - 16/06/2022 14:43:34    2425409

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Replying To Canuck:  "It says your disciplinary system is a joke to begin with when you decided to take action against these players. T.V. replay to discipline two players ? Probably influenced by the commentary that went along with it. Continuous flawed slow downed replays for many incidents. Get your own coverage maned by qualified people. Until them stick with the 7 officials on the field and may be try and upgrade them."
So would you support the use of a TMO during the game?
Do you actually think any of these 3 players, regardless of whether it was real time or retrospective, deserve to start this weekend?
And lastly, if I came out of Coppers and threw a punch at somebody and it was on CCTV, that the Gardai shouldn't use it? There is no difference between the 2.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1610 - 16/06/2022 15:15:26    2425426

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