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There's 33 NFL & NHL games across Saturday and Sunday. None tonight. That's how it is now. One live on terrestrial TV on Saturday, two live on Sunday. What do we with the rest of the content? The hours of games that don't make League Sunday?

Should there be games on Friday night especially if its two neighbouring counties?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 04/02/2022 21:52:22    2398362

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There's 33 NFL & NHL games across Saturday and Sunday. None tonight. That's how it is now. One live on terrestrial TV on Saturday, two live on Sunday. What do we with the rest of the content? The hours of games that don't make League Sunday?

Should there be games on Friday night especially if its two neighbouring counties?"
Whatever about coverage on TV but SFA on GAA GO is unforgivable... only 6 games available. The idea that everyone can attend a game in person is a complete nonsense but it's clear that revenue protection is the ultimate goal here. I wouldn't mind about Friday night games... amateurs can't be expected to be taking days off work to play games.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 848 - 05/02/2022 08:00:22    2398364

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There's no game clashing with the rugger so no need to panic!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2595 - 05/02/2022 09:12:40    2398367

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Replying To KillingFields:  "link

There's 33 NFL & NHL games across Saturday and Sunday. None tonight. That's how it is now. One live on terrestrial TV on Saturday, two live on Sunday. What do we with the rest of the content? The hours of games that don't make League Sunday?

Should there be games on Friday night especially if its two neighbouring counties?"
At one point there used to be games on Friday evenings but thst was probably 15 years since the last one.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 05/02/2022 09:58:47    2398371

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There's 33 NFL & NHL games across Saturday and Sunday. None tonight. That's how it is now. One live on terrestrial TV on Saturday, two live on Sunday. What do we with the rest of the content? The hours of games that don't make League Sunday?

Should there be games on Friday night especially if its two neighbouring counties?"
I think Friday night games are tricky due to different players' work arrangements. Even if it's only a couple of lads, it's not fair to a team who might be missing key players due to work commitments.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2055 - 05/02/2022 10:41:19    2398377

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There's 33 NFL & NHL games across Saturday and Sunday. None tonight. That's how it is now. One live on terrestrial TV on Saturday, two live on Sunday. What do we with the rest of the content? The hours of games that don't make League Sunday?

Should there be games on Friday night especially if its two neighbouring counties?"
I think Friday night games are tricky due to different players' work arrangements. Even if it's only a couple of lads, it's not fair to a team who might be missing key players due to work commitments."
Friday night games = lads having to take a day iff work = need to be compensated = semi pro.
No!!!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1452 - 05/02/2022 11:43:34    2398391

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KillingFields, try and keep up to speed, a few years two neighboring counties Carlow and Laois were hand picked as guiney pigs to play a Friday night game for the first time, from memory there was a few shift workers on board another had difficulty in getting time off to travel so he had to take a days hols, the shift workers were compensated at flat rate not shift rate, soon after the idea of Friday nights games were scrapped.

PS There is quiet a few counties from the lower divisions that haven't had 5 minutes of air time, TV or radio allocated to any of their games over the past 50 or so years, they say Al Jazeera don't cover gaa games either.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2911 - 05/02/2022 13:05:53    2398398

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Replying To supersub15:  "KillingFields, try and keep up to speed, a few years two neighboring counties Carlow and Laois were hand picked as guiney pigs to play a Friday night game for the first time, from memory there was a few shift workers on board another had difficulty in getting time off to travel so he had to take a days hols, the shift workers were compensated at flat rate not shift rate, soon after the idea of Friday nights games were scrapped.

PS There is quiet a few counties from the lower divisions that haven't had 5 minutes of air time, TV or radio allocated to any of their games over the past 50 or so years, they say Al Jazeera don't cover gaa games either."
I'm not sure if I just imagined it or not. But I could swear there was a midweek qualifier one time. Maybe around 03 or 04. I have it in my heard that Offaly played in it.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 06/02/2022 10:47:54    2398523

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Replying To supersub15:  "KillingFields, try and keep up to speed, a few years two neighboring counties Carlow and Laois were hand picked as guiney pigs to play a Friday night game for the first time, from memory there was a few shift workers on board another had difficulty in getting time off to travel so he had to take a days hols, the shift workers were compensated at flat rate not shift rate, soon after the idea of Friday nights games were scrapped.

PS There is quiet a few counties from the lower divisions that haven't had 5 minutes of air time, TV or radio allocated to any of their games over the past 50 or so years, they say Al Jazeera don't cover gaa games either."
Don't worry, those same counties will get huge TV coverage in the b championship in the summer lol, just like the lower tier hurling comps do.

Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 06/02/2022 14:38:23    2398551

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Replying To oneoff:  "I'm not sure if I just imagined it or not. But I could swear there was a midweek qualifier one time. Maybe around 03 or 04. I have it in my heard that Offaly played in it."
I honestly can't remember a midweek qualifier happening but that doesn't mean it didn't, if I come up with any positive info on it I'll post it here.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2911 - 06/02/2022 15:27:11    2398557

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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "Don't worry, those same counties will get huge TV coverage in the b championship in the summer lol, just like the lower tier hurling comps do."
Here we go again promises, promises, - There's an old saying, "Live horse and you'll get grass" - lol.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2911 - 06/02/2022 15:47:33    2398569

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Replying To oneoff:  "I'm not sure if I just imagined it or not. But I could swear there was a midweek qualifier one time. Maybe around 03 or 04. I have it in my heard that Offaly played in it."
Limerick v Offaly, in 2003 - played in Semple Stadium on a Thursday evening:
https://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/offaly-and-limerick-in-mid-week-experiment-25937918.html
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Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 09/02/2022 14:15:38    2399519

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GAA has another issue now perhaps, maybe. It is early days of course but it looks like Dublin's era of dominance in football isn't as certain anymore, which will likely cut into audience figures for games etc on the tv, and in the stadiums too. They are still obviously box office but the reason all this infamous funding was pumped into Dublin in the first place was because they were at a low enough ebb. Will history repeat itself?

Watch them prove that idea wrong by winning the All Ireland this year!

Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 09/02/2022 14:59:56    2399535

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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "GAA has another issue now perhaps, maybe. It is early days of course but it looks like Dublin's era of dominance in football isn't as certain anymore, which will likely cut into audience figures for games etc on the tv, and in the stadiums too. They are still obviously box office but the reason all this infamous funding was pumped into Dublin in the first place was because they were at a low enough ebb. Will history repeat itself?

Watch them prove that idea wrong by winning the All Ireland this year!"
As you said, it's very early to be making any definite predictions about Dublin. However, assuming that they've fallen right back into the pack, would that not have a positive impact on viewership and attendances, rather than the opposite as you said.
The predictability of most of their games had resulted in Leinster championship attendances falling significantly. If for example, Kildare have a good chance of beating them, surely that would increase interest in the game for spectators.
The early and mid 00s when Dublin were trying to make the breakthrough and had competitive battles with Laois, Kildare, Meath and Westmeath was a time of record high attendances in Leinster.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2055 - 09/02/2022 15:29:24    2399545

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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "GAA has another issue now perhaps, maybe. It is early days of course but it looks like Dublin's era of dominance in football isn't as certain anymore, which will likely cut into audience figures for games etc on the tv, and in the stadiums too. They are still obviously box office but the reason all this infamous funding was pumped into Dublin in the first place was because they were at a low enough ebb. Will history repeat itself?

Watch them prove that idea wrong by winning the All Ireland this year!"
I'd say it's the complete opposite. Ongoing Dublin dominance would eventually only lead to disillusionment and lack of interest in every other county, including the likes of Mayo/Kerry/Tyrone. The championship becoming more competitive again each year would instead lead to greater interest outside of Dublin, with knock-on benefits for both TV viewing figures and for match attendances.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 09/02/2022 15:34:53    2399547

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Meanwhile LGFA Leagues kick off this weekend, and every game from Division 1 to Division 4 is streamed at €5 per game or €10 for weekend pass or €50 for season pass. https://page.inplayer.com/lgfaseason2022/

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 475 - 09/02/2022 15:45:44    2399549

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I think this year's Championship is going to be the most competitive & exciting in years. It's different to other years. There is no longer a big separation between league & championship. Squad depth and some luck with injuries will be vital.

Dublin have rejoined the pack somewhat but will be eager to reestablish themselves as top dogs.
Tyrone will be out to prove that they can back up their All Ireland win.
Mayo are Mayo, will be there or thereabouts.
Kerry will be ravenous for success having come up short in recent years.

Then you have a cohort of dark horses who undoubtedly have the talent, but would probably need to get on a serious run of momentum, have luck with no injuries to key men etc.

Donegal, Armagh, Galway, Monaghan and to a lesser extent Derry fall into this category in my opinion.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9170 - 09/02/2022 16:28:40    2399557

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Limerick v Offaly, in 2003 - played in Semple Stadium on a Thursday evening:
https://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/offaly-and-limerick-in-mid-week-experiment-25937918.html
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Glad I wasn't imagining it!

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 09/02/2022 17:35:07    2399570

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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "Don't worry, those same counties will get huge TV coverage in the b championship in the summer lol, just like the lower tier hurling comps do."
I don't ever get this thing about lower tiers, or whatever people want to call them, and coverage. People say as if the teams who'll play in it are getting wall to wall coverage at the moment.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 09/02/2022 17:38:46    2399572

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Just stream every game not on TV on GAA Go. €5 a game. Have weekend and season passes. GAA is behind the times here.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 10/02/2022 09:12:04    2399609

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