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Expanding each grade to 16 teams and doing four groups of four isn't even on the table, as no club proposed it. Don't know how involved you are with your club itself, but you could always put it in there for discussion when this things come round again later in the year with regard to how 2023 onwards will be run. Way I see it, there's broad support for two sixes all right, but Co. Board emails set out some of the practical difficulties with it. Not only getting it all completed in time to have all grades represented in Leinster, but also difficulties with numbers of match officials and the impact that the necessary midweek fixtures would have on underage, camogie, and ladies football. Significant too is how there'd be no scope to have a free Sunday if Wexford camogie or ladies football happened to reach an All-Ireland semi-final or final. Clubs can of course vote for it if they want to, but important that they know what exactly they're voting for. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2185 - 27/01/2022 15:37:47 2396746 Link 0 |
Most of the lads in the club who had an opinion that I was talking to preferred the status quo. I'm in a minority!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11477 - 27/01/2022 18:09:54 2396769 Link 0 |
Heard last night that two groups of 6 passed. Most clubs must have wanted it to go back to the old way. So there will be a couple of rounds of championship mid week which should make it interesting. Hurling first again also. alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 02/02/2022 07:29:40 2397844 Link 0 |
Not sure why my last post didnt go up, so back to 2 groups of 6, thought the status q would of stayed but happy all the same, gives plenty of matches to teams. Also hurling first, I understand footballs frustrations but I think its the right move. See a few twitter rants from a few x footballers which I dont agree with thats why we have county boards reps. Contrary whats been said on twitter about winter football, it looks like it will be starting at the end of August so will still be relatively warm. For our own club it suits to have hurling first as we give no consideration to football otherwise, if football was first our club would still be hurling. Unfortunately I know alot of other clubs in the same boat. alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 02/02/2022 09:16:10 2397854 Link 0 |
That's up to your club if you put no effort into football but not a genuine reason for Hurling going first each year, Weather shouldn't be a factor either, Surely player retention should be the biggest issue here, its getting harder to keep younger players playing but its going to be even harder if the same code goes first each year for any player who doesn't play that code Finish league end of may start of june, then sit around for 3 months doing nothing before championship starts, gonna be very hard keep players that way If football went first 3 years in a row maybe people would look at it differently then lefty (Wexford) - Posts: 185 - 02/02/2022 09:45:24 2397858 Link 0 |
A bit like all the debates over the all ireland football championship I don't think finding a structure to keep everyone happy is possible, every system they could have picked hurling first, football first or alternate weekends would have had flaws.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 02/02/2022 10:43:43 2397873 Link 0 |
They could of course scrap the split season approach rather than just defaulting to hurling first all the time. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1304 - 02/02/2022 11:26:24 2397885 Link 0 |
Think the groups of 6 was most people I talked to preferred option. Even though Idve preferred 4 groups of 4. More games to bring the young lads to see. Happy Days!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11477 - 02/02/2022 11:31:28 2397891 Link 0 |
Don't think its what most players want however.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 634 - 02/02/2022 12:22:14 2397916 Link 0 |
What did you want yourself lad?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11477 - 02/02/2022 13:00:55 2397933 Link 0 |
2 groups of 6 is the best format by far. Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 524 - 02/02/2022 13:06:08 2397934 Link 0 |
Scrapping the split season and going with alternating between hurling and football (either week-by-week or in blocks of two or three) was one of the options put to the meeting last night. Another option was to go with football first. The overwhelming majority voted to keep the split season and keep the hurling first. And note that it was a vote - they didn't just "default" to anything. It's democracy in action, with every club having a voice. Not liking the result doesn't make the process unfair. Also just to note that if hurling starts as planned in late June/early July, it'll finish by end of August, and football will be played through September/October. Hardly "pushed back further", and hardly the winter months. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2185 - 02/02/2022 13:12:47 2397941 Link 0 |
Finally a valid point, again seen on twitter this morning this winter months tag. The proposal as far as I can read it, its late August hardly the depths of winter. I agree also that the fairest option would be to play on alternating weekends and its probably the solution that will happen go forward.
alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 02/02/2022 13:20:57 2397944 Link 0 |
I think the key word is democracy. And seemingly it wasnt a close vote as regards the split season with hurling 1st. And football people not getting involved in football in the county because of a perceived bias is just frankly sad and doesn't help the promotion of the game here at all.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11477 - 02/02/2022 14:18:37 2397962 Link 0 |
Pleased it's back to the six-team groups. Fairer system in that it gives a better reflection of the form of sides entering the quarter-finals stage. You get their on merit rather than sneaking through by score difference after drawing your second game. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1407 - 02/02/2022 15:10:03 2397974 Link 0 |
No offence but its a bit naive to belief because something is democratic then it cant be unfair. No club voted on the basis of what was fair, they voted on the basis of whats best for them and them only, in a county where the majority are more in favour of hurling it was always going to be thus, but that doesnt make it right imho. Personally speaking from my own point to be fair to both codes if we are persisting with a split season it is only fair to alternate what code goes first year on year. What we have now is 3 years on the trot with hurling getting priority. Im not pro one or the other, down the line dual and always have been. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1304 - 02/02/2022 15:15:19 2397976 Link 1 |
I would be the same as regards both sports should be given equal priority although I admit I prefer watching hurling.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11477 - 02/02/2022 17:45:59 2398012 Link 0 |
We could split hairs over this one all night long. For example, would it not be unfair too for the majority to have to do what the minority wanted? I'm told the vote last night was probably 80-20 (ish) in favour of hurling first. You could even argue then that mathematically, the "fairest" thing would be to have football first in one year out of every five, and hurling first in the other four. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2185 - 02/02/2022 17:59:11 2398013 Link 0 |