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Replying To KingdomofBreifne: "Come over to our forum, there's more Monaghan posters there than here!" This is just sad from both counties posters. Dropped in to see some thoughts on yesterday and see loads of my daddy is bigger than your daddy stuff from each county. We didn't even play cavan this year in championship. Maybe hoganstand needs to restrict posting to adults only.
seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1906 - 29/06/2025 22:16:23
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Replying To McGuirk1985@: "When monaghan lose the sad people of cavan come out in their droves as they have nothing to shout about from their own team all year, away back under your rock" Ah dry up, will ya. I know you are disappointed and frustrated but there's no need to resort to childish insults.
thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 29/06/2025 22:35:35
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Replying To KingdomofBreifne: "'We may not win every year'!! What year did you win?" You are a Tailteann Cup team. End of.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 674 - 30/06/2025 01:22:43
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Replying To KingdomofBreifne: "We are! That's a tough div 2 is right. We'll possibly struggle to be in the mix at the end for promotion. See you in it in a year. Enjoy your club champs. Hopefully, your club give you something to celebrate." Cavan, winners of the We Beat Mayo 2025 Cup. I suppose you will be going around advocating and arguing Cavan are just as good as Armagh as you lost by 8 and Armagh by 9 so therefore even eh? That's the stuff you be sprouting round here and on the high stool. How many times have Cavan played in Croke Park in recent times ? I think Fermanagh have played more games there recently…
veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 790 - 30/06/2025 08:00:08
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Very disappointing result on Saturday. More so because of the manner of the defeat than actually losing.
I thought Monaghan looked very nervy before the game and I don't think they ever really settled. Even Bannigan's goal was really a miskick from a normally assured player. There's probably a lack of real leadership at the moment to take a grip on the game when it is going away from the team, and a lack of real Croke Park experience. It's a daunting stadium at the best of times.
The major worry was the disjointed play and lack of composure when Donegal put the foot down. It must have been discussed before the game and at half time that this was something that would need to be dealt with. Monaghan seemed to lose trust in themselves and resorted to wild shooting. They panicked early basically. If even one or two of the opportunities they made had been worked through for a point or if they'd held on to the ball to
take some of the sting out of Donegal, then they might have got back into the game. Staying alive in a game and playing through to the end is the minimal requirement for success. Look what it brought Meath yesterday.
Maybe management could have maybe done a bit here - bascially some cynical tactics needed to break up the flow of the opposition. That being said, the decision near the sideline that lead to the crucial Donegal goal was a refereeing mistake and very poor one at that.
There's clearly another step up that Monaghan need to reach, mentally and physically. I thought they might do it this year but it wasn't to be. When it gets to the business end football ability is taken for granted and it's all about power and physicality.
Some of the players are a bit too raw and with Lavelle out injured the defence was a bit on the light side and lacking meanness. Up front they still lack a bit of the Darren Hughes style rampaging leadership.
With the new rules a team need about 4 midfielders on the pitch. I thought McCarville had a good year (I know some people don't seem to rate him) and Mohan is a top player. Hopefully McPhillips will get the opportunity to develop further next year and McBennet too who I think was a loss to the team based on his last year performances.
The problem with the short season is that there isn't much scope for developing a team and the impact of injuries is huge. If you're not in the team at the start of the year it's tough to get your place back.
Of the team on Saturday I thought O'Hanlon, O'Toole, Mohan were probably the best and a lot of the others had half-good games, they were in and out and that's not enough to get you over the line. This is just what I can recall, I didn't bother with the highlights.
Overall though it was a good year and Monaghan are on an upward trajectory. They should know now what is required. Hopefully they take the next steps.
PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 199 - 30/06/2025 10:11:10
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Very disappointing second half on Saturday, I'm still very proud of the team this year but that was the worst performance I seen in a half from Monaghan in a long long time. I feel disappointed more for the players.
To go from scoring 1-15 in first half to just 5 points in second half (where the 2 pointer from Garland was pretty much at the hooter) is still hard to understand.
Usually, when we are beat in Cork Park, its by very slim margins and we'd rue a one or two pivotal moments which could have gone either way, but this was a total collapse in the second half. We looked completed jaded, Donegal players just ran through us and we were continuously turned over throughout the half.
At half time, I really thought we were in with a great chance, being 7 points up. Donegal were always going to rally but I thought we'd be able to withstand it and get over the line.
It seems to me that there is a serious lack of belief with the Monaghan senior team when playing the big teams in Croke Park. We don't seem to have that edge to us where we fight for every single ball for 70 mins. It felt like Monaghan were playing with fear of losing right from the start of the second half and it suffocated them.
This was another serious opportunity lost, as we could have been meeting Meath in a semi-final, which we'd be fairly confident of winning.
Anyway, on a positive note, we need to push on from here, and I think we can.
We can get players back like McCaul, Hamil, Jones back and blood a couple more of the younger guys. Playing Div 1 football is going to be tough but will be great experience for this young team.
In all honesty, no one expected Monaghan to be in a quarter final this year, including Monaghan supporters, so the team did us very proud, we just need to bring it to the next level now.
Will Andy Moran stay around ? and who extra can Bannigan bring in to the background team to push us on ? Dessie Farrell please :)
We need to push on at U20 level next year too, this is our superb minor team of 2023, we need to bring this winning mentality into our senior team
SouthMonMan (Monaghan) - Posts: 168 - 30/06/2025 10:44:30
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Replying To AlanD: "I hear some much talk on this forum about malone he was this and he was that to be honest where was the communicated from mangerment team to the players to stop trying to work a goal and stop trying outrageous 2pts when there was still 15 mins left in the game surley it was easy message to get on to the pitch also I know Mcanisphe situation really sucked the life out of her attack but where two 38 year old men who between them both probably only played 20 mins of football this year & a half really going to bring energy at that point.
Lavelle has struggled since he came back but both him and Mooney shud of being on the field for the last 20 to 25 mins for obvious reasons...Davy garland was not the answer yea he kick a pts in down game but it's probably only time he did anything he so unreliable in the big games.
Mccarville shud of brought off earlier & as soon as Carey did what he did he shud of being off.
Mcguisness put mcgee obaoill &mcbreaty on at the right time & we hesitant big call to taking oisin gallon off after scoring a great point but mcguisness is not afraid to make bold decisions like the perfect subs to use was lavelle kelly & mcnulty for that third quarter but we went with mcnulty from the start." AlanD, you need a new user name. The Hitman would be appropriate. Jesus you have taken out the reputation of a good few of the players with your analysis of the game, and a complete assassination of Dylan Byrne. Gabriel needs you on board for next year, time to clear out any young lads that are willing to dedicate themselves for the Monaghan jersey but have had a poor day.
BrehonBlonde (Monaghan) - Posts: 121 - 30/06/2025 10:49:08
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I would be slightly worried already about next year, some posters getting already giddy about league football. We cant let that consume us, it killed us during Malachys reign. and ironically Tyrone and Meath find themselves in a semi final (Both D2). One thing that was obvious over the weekend was how small of a team we are. The other 7 teams; huge figures, very mobile and athletic. That is something that needs to be worked on through development squads into minor, u20. It was a good year overall by Monaghan, you work with you have got and I just think there is a pure gulf in class saturday in so many aspects. Croke Park isn't a kind of place for monaghan football, thats for sure.
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Replying To PolicemanFox: "Very disappointing result on Saturday. More so because of the manner of the defeat than actually losing.
I thought Monaghan looked very nervy before the game and I don't think they ever really settled. Even Bannigan's goal was really a miskick from a normally assured player. There's probably a lack of real leadership at the moment to take a grip on the game when it is going away from the team, and a lack of real Croke Park experience. It's a daunting stadium at the best of times.
The major worry was the disjointed play and lack of composure when Donegal put the foot down. It must have been discussed before the game and at half time that this was something that would need to be dealt with. Monaghan seemed to lose trust in themselves and resorted to wild shooting. They panicked early basically. If even one or two of the opportunities they made had been worked through for a point or if they'd held on to the ball to
take some of the sting out of Donegal, then they might have got back into the game. Staying alive in a game and playing through to the end is the minimal requirement for success. Look what it brought Meath yesterday.
Maybe management could have maybe done a bit here - bascially some cynical tactics needed to break up the flow of the opposition. That being said, the decision near the sideline that lead to the crucial Donegal goal was a refereeing mistake and very poor one at that.
There's clearly another step up that Monaghan need to reach, mentally and physically. I thought they might do it this year but it wasn't to be. When it gets to the business end football ability is taken for granted and it's all about power and physicality.
Some of the players are a bit too raw and with Lavelle out injured the defence was a bit on the light side and lacking meanness. Up front they still lack a bit of the Darren Hughes style rampaging leadership.
With the new rules a team need about 4 midfielders on the pitch. I thought McCarville had a good year (I know some people don't seem to rate him) and Mohan is a top player. Hopefully McPhillips will get the opportunity to develop further next year and McBennet too who I think was a loss to the team based on his last year performances.
The problem with the short season is that there isn't much scope for developing a team and the impact of injuries is huge. If you're not in the team at the start of the year it's tough to get your place back.
Of the team on Saturday I thought O'Hanlon, O'Toole, Mohan were probably the best and a lot of the others had half-good games, they were in and out and that's not enough to get you over the line. This is just what I can recall, I didn't bother with the highlights.
Overall though it was a good year and Monaghan are on an upward trajectory. They should know now what is required. Hopefully they take the next steps." Have to agree with a lot of this, especially the coaching team, they didn't get it right at half time IMO. Have they ever been ahead by so much at half time during their reign?? We have to give them the benefit of the doubt and let it be a lesson learned
Some say that the goal was the turning point in the game but it wasn't really, he had an easy point for the taking if he wanted it (the soft free that it led from still could and should have been defended) They had already seized the initiative by then. Half time came at the right time for them as it broke our momentum and allowed them regroup.
McCarville has improved throughout the season, although still a bit limited, Woods showed improvement yesterday continued on from the second half against Down, he looks better suited to half forward, help out with kick outs and shoot long range points. Throw in Bobby McCaul at FF next season
There are 2 or 3 other options that can come into the team and add to it, so we are in a good place to try maintain our Div1 status next year, which I hope people now realise the importance of
mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1076 - 30/06/2025 11:32:52
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Monaghan need someone like Caroline Currid to give them the winners attitude that seems to be missing from them..
Farney (Monaghan) - Posts: 818 - 30/06/2025 12:11:31
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Replying To BrehonBlonde: "AlanD, you need a new user name. The Hitman would be appropriate. Jesus you have taken out the reputation of a good few of the players with your analysis of the game, and a complete assassination of Dylan Byrne. Gabriel needs you on board for next year, time to clear out any young lads that are willing to dedicate themselves for the Monaghan jersey but have had a poor day." Just very frustrating,but looking back now young Byrne tried his best also the same with young Carey.
It was really the 1st biggest game of his career & am sure he will learn from the game. I do think corner backs are vital now with the new rules to be very confident on the ball, paul murphy yday was very brave on his own kickout, which give kerry a plate form. Niall devlin for tyrone was also very good. I think we are going in the right direction but time will tell.
I would love to see Niall kearns back he really the one player I think this team is missing , but maybe with Niall medical history maybe it's not possible.
Hopefully Andy Moran will stay but we kno the answer in the next couple of weeks as mayo will appoint the man they would quite quickly.
AlanD (Monaghan) - Posts: 22 - 30/06/2025 12:16:07
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Replying To Farney: "Monaghan need someone like Caroline Currid to give them the winners attitude that seems to be missing from them.." There is a sport Psych in the group.
Just a poor one by the looks of it.
MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 57 - 30/06/2025 13:44:48
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We're not the only team that exited with their tails between their legs,this weekend. First 55 mins of Galway v Meath was Tailteann cup quality. Kerry blew Armagh back up the M1 in second half. Both Div 1 teams. Let's stop with the self flagellation.
Blackcardnot (USA) - Posts: 69 - 30/06/2025 16:37:53
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With the county teams season being over, who is everyone's predictions to win Senior, Intermediate and Junior?? Scotstown and Emyvale two clear winners for me in their respective divisions and im going to go with Blayney to win intermediate. Seem to be going from strength to strength since their narrow loss to davy garland in the second round of the league. They seem to have more depth in the squad than previous years.
Monaghan37 (Monaghan) - Posts: 60 - 30/06/2025 17:02:27
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Replying To mhunicean_abu: "Have to agree with a lot of this, especially the coaching team, they didn't get it right at half time IMO. Have they ever been ahead by so much at half time during their reign?? We have to give them the benefit of the doubt and let it be a lesson learned
Some say that the goal was the turning point in the game but it wasn't really, he had an easy point for the taking if he wanted it (the soft free that it led from still could and should have been defended) They had already seized the initiative by then. Half time came at the right time for them as it broke our momentum and allowed them regroup.
McCarville has improved throughout the season, although still a bit limited, Woods showed improvement yesterday continued on from the second half against Down, he looks better suited to half forward, help out with kick outs and shoot long range points. Throw in Bobby McCaul at FF next season
There are 2 or 3 other options that can come into the team and add to it, so we are in a good place to try maintain our Div1 status next year, which I hope people now realise the importance of" One handed attempts at catching a ball in mid field has been hard to watch , definitely not an improvement in the last few games , beared no threat whatsoever as a midfielder . I agree we would need the likes of kearns back, Karl Gallagher and Barry McBennet would be better options .Anyone would have taken how we performed this year and with McCaul and Hamill back things do look to be on the rise. Keeping Andy Moran is a must
stoneygrey (Monaghan) - Posts: 244 - 30/06/2025 17:27:14
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Replying To MonaghanMan44life: "There is a sport Psych in the group.
Just a poor one by the looks of it." Poor barber too. My god some of the haircuts... what's going on in Monaghan lads?
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1829 - 30/06/2025 17:39:12
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Replying To AlanD: "Just very frustrating,but looking back now young Byrne tried his best also the same with young Carey.
It was really the 1st biggest game of his career & am sure he will learn from the game. I do think corner backs are vital now with the new rules to be very confident on the ball, paul murphy yday was very brave on his own kickout, which give kerry a plate form. Niall devlin for tyrone was also very good. I think we are going in the right direction but time will tell.
I would love to see Niall kearns back he really the one player I think this team is missing , but maybe with Niall medical history maybe it's not possible.
Hopefully Andy Moran will stay but we kno the answer in the next couple of weeks as mayo will appoint the man they would quite quickly." You list your right to be regarded as serious after your earlier contribution.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 674 - 30/06/2025 20:08:14
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