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Just got watching our u20s last night on stream. I had heard it was a poor showing, Derry very strong etc etc…

Group looks a an utter shambles. I asked the question last week on who made this management appointment and think that had been justified again. The lack of coaching is very evident, this is a talented group make no mistake about it so any underachieving has to be directed towards the coaching team.

How has Counihan and Malone been passed over for the u20s the past 3-4 years? Both had success at minor levels with these exact players.

MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 37 - 04/04/2025 11:18:33    2600501

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Top in A & B process to the semis with 2 & 3 in both groups playing quarterfinals to see who joins in semis!

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 169 - 04/04/2025 12:39:51    2600517

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Replying To MonaghanMan44life:  "Just got watching our u20s last night on stream. I had heard it was a poor showing, Derry very strong etc etc…

Group looks a an utter shambles. I asked the question last week on who made this management appointment and think that had been justified again. The lack of coaching is very evident, this is a talented group make no mistake about it so any underachieving has to be directed towards the coaching team.

How has Counihan and Malone been passed over for the u20s the past 3-4 years? Both had success at minor levels with these exact players."
The Monaghan GAA coaching committee chaired by Pauric Duffy and input from games manager formerly POC apoint under 20 and minor managers. Games manager appoints development squads solely

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 169 - 04/04/2025 12:42:45    2600519

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Replying To farneygael3:  "The Monaghan GAA coaching committee chaired by Pauric Duffy and input from games manager formerly POC apoint under 20 and minor managers. Games manager appoints development squads solely"
Was PC not the coaching committee chair for years?

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 741 - 04/04/2025 13:55:51    2600542

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Minors lost by 18 points today and scored 7 times. Scored 5 times last time out v Armagh. Maybe those asking questions of our coaches on here are right in doing so

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 169 - 05/04/2025 18:52:50    2600661

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Donegal it is. They're going well but if we put in a performance, we have the game to beat them. Derry were so toothless. I was surprised by how much space Donegal were leaving them, but they looked like they were lacking in confidence to do anything with it. Beggan should be a lot more accurate than the Derry keeper, and we've the legs to match their running game as well, although O'Donnell and Ó Baoill will have to be watched in the half forward line, they were very good.

Should be a great match. I always fancy us against Donegal.

MunnionOfMunnionHill (Monaghan) - Posts: 13 - 06/04/2025 16:44:49    2600772

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Replying To MunnionOfMunnionHill:  "Donegal it is. They're going well but if we put in a performance, we have the game to beat them. Derry were so toothless. I was surprised by how much space Donegal were leaving them, but they looked like they were lacking in confidence to do anything with it. Beggan should be a lot more accurate than the Derry keeper, and we've the legs to match their running game as well, although O'Donnell and Ó Baoill will have to be watched in the half forward line, they were very good.

Should be a great match. I always fancy us against Donegal."
Won't happen this time lad. This donegal team is primed for bigger days. We really have a strong squad. Avoid injuries and this could be our year. This is not cockiness it's the way a lot of people feel.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2595 - 06/04/2025 18:17:51    2600792

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Won't happen this time lad. This donegal team is primed for bigger days. We really have a strong squad. Avoid injuries and this could be our year. This is not cockiness it's the way a lot of people feel."
Thats a fair assessment. Rate Donegal v highly. Its a great opportunity for Monaghan to test themselves v one of the all ireland contenders. We are in transition been playing in div 2 where 15-20 mins good play was enough to win most games. This game will show where our level really is. There is zero pressure on us we are in Clones. Actually think we can hurt donegal in defence with our pace and beggan won't be as poor as derry keeper today problem is can see them potentially make ribbons of ours as their attacking game is hugely impressive and they have massive depth to bring even if we hold them for 50-60 mins. They didn't have that in Jimmy's first stint where team picked itself. We are potentially a more potent attacking side than we used to be but we lack the killer defensive spine we used to have. Lavelle hopefully will be back as will defonitely need him. Funnily enough don't really mind seeing Murphy and mcbearty playing it's the younger donegal lads who attack in waves would worry me. Should be a good game. We have had a fair few tussles not recently but back nearly a decade ago and always been played in a good competitive spirit. No real bad blood either way.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1874 - 06/04/2025 18:53:50    2600808

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Replying To seanie08:  "Thats a fair assessment. Rate Donegal v highly. Its a great opportunity for Monaghan to test themselves v one of the all ireland contenders. We are in transition been playing in div 2 where 15-20 mins good play was enough to win most games. This game will show where our level really is. There is zero pressure on us we are in Clones. Actually think we can hurt donegal in defence with our pace and beggan won't be as poor as derry keeper today problem is can see them potentially make ribbons of ours as their attacking game is hugely impressive and they have massive depth to bring even if we hold them for 50-60 mins. They didn't have that in Jimmy's first stint where team picked itself. We are potentially a more potent attacking side than we used to be but we lack the killer defensive spine we used to have. Lavelle hopefully will be back as will defonitely need him. Funnily enough don't really mind seeing Murphy and mcbearty playing it's the younger donegal lads who attack in waves would worry me. Should be a good game. We have had a fair few tussles not recently but back nearly a decade ago and always been played in a good competitive spirit. No real bad blood either way."
I respect Monaghan so much. Fantastic gaa county. But have this feeling about us this year. We have a strong squad Murphy and mc brearty motoring nicely we still have eoin ban to come back plus langan. I agree about beggan fantastic goalkeeper and kicker. I can't understand why Derry played and outfield player in goals he couldn't get his kick outs away which is criminal nowadays.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2595 - 06/04/2025 19:05:31    2600813

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Anyone have a number for Vinny? Dust the boots off and pocket Murphy one last time

Monaghan37 (Monaghan) - Posts: 53 - 07/04/2025 00:20:37    2600877

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I think Jimmy Mcguinness was probably eyeing up this tie against us for about a month or more now... I dont think he was too interested in the league which isnt like him and with respect to Derry Im not sure they had any fear going into the game...

But Monaghan surely gives him the heebie-jeebies

Monaghan will bring more than what Derry did and I cant wait to finally see how we fare out against a top side... am I right in saying Jimmy Mcguinness has only ever lost twice in Ulster and both times were against Monaghan - he'd be foolish to think all he has to do is show up against us

MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 218 - 07/04/2025 14:33:50    2600975

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Replying To MalsBalls:  "I think Jimmy Mcguinness was probably eyeing up this tie against us for about a month or more now... I dont think he was too interested in the league which isnt like him and with respect to Derry Im not sure they had any fear going into the game...

But Monaghan surely gives him the heebie-jeebies

Monaghan will bring more than what Derry did and I cant wait to finally see how we fare out against a top side... am I right in saying Jimmy Mcguinness has only ever lost twice in Ulster and both times were against Monaghan - he'd be foolish to think all he has to do is show up against us"
Think JMcG only defeat in Ulster Championship was in the 2013 final v Monaghan. Monaghan also beat his Donegal team in 2014 Division 2 League final

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 604 - 07/04/2025 16:22:30    2600989

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Replying To MalsBalls:  "I think Jimmy Mcguinness was probably eyeing up this tie against us for about a month or more now... I dont think he was too interested in the league which isnt like him and with respect to Derry Im not sure they had any fear going into the game...

But Monaghan surely gives him the heebie-jeebies

Monaghan will bring more than what Derry did and I cant wait to finally see how we fare out against a top side... am I right in saying Jimmy Mcguinness has only ever lost twice in Ulster and both times were against Monaghan - he'd be foolish to think all he has to do is show up against us"
Just the once, he did get the better of us in 2014 which is often forgotten.
Gallagher managed Donegal in 2015 and in 2016 when they beat us in cavan.

222 (UK) - Posts: 839 - 07/04/2025 17:18:36    2601001

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Replying To MalsBalls:  "I think Jimmy Mcguinness was probably eyeing up this tie against us for about a month or more now... I dont think he was too interested in the league which isnt like him and with respect to Derry Im not sure they had any fear going into the game...

But Monaghan surely gives him the heebie-jeebies

Monaghan will bring more than what Derry did and I cant wait to finally see how we fare out against a top side... am I right in saying Jimmy Mcguinness has only ever lost twice in Ulster and both times were against Monaghan - he'd be foolish to think all he has to do is show up against us"
Jim certainly wasn't looking past Derry before Sunday especially the way the tables were turned in Derry last year. You underestimate teams in Ulster at your peril.
Should be a fantasic occasion on Easter Sunday. 2 teams with their confidence sky high. Clones will certainly be rocking.
Hopefully the weather holds up. There is no better place than a big Ulster Championship tie in Clones on a nice day.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 449 - 07/04/2025 19:22:57    2601017

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This is where our journey starts imo we played a lot of poor teams -poorly organised teams in div 2 I do think we we need to mirror what donegal are doing at present is defending the big arc and small arc and breaking at serious pace and in addition to that man marking there key players mchugh o baoil and Murphy there no 5 6 and 7 are not great at defending or getting back if there stripped but we need a mean and ruthless streak and not give a s%#t attitude if we get a result we have arrived and ready to challenge the top 4 now not later should be our challenge we have a serious amount of players at the right age 26 to 28 we have the tools to do it question is do the management have the ambition to take monaghan to the highs we havent seen before muinechain Abu

Farneyblueandwhite (Monaghan) - Posts: 39 - 07/04/2025 23:26:56    2601039

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Replying To Farneyblueandwhite:  "This is where our journey starts imo we played a lot of poor teams -poorly organised teams in div 2 I do think we we need to mirror what donegal are doing at present is defending the big arc and small arc and breaking at serious pace and in addition to that man marking there key players mchugh o baoil and Murphy there no 5 6 and 7 are not great at defending or getting back if there stripped but we need a mean and ruthless streak and not give a s%#t attitude if we get a result we have arrived and ready to challenge the top 4 now not later should be our challenge we have a serious amount of players at the right age 26 to 28 we have the tools to do it question is do the management have the ambition to take monaghan to the highs we havent seen before muinechain Abu"
Disagree with the defending the arc notions, can't be going out to play cowardly football as we'll just get rolled over. Man to man and constant pressure on the ball is the only way Monaghan can conceivably win something.

Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 199 - 08/04/2025 08:56:59    2601053

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Replying To Jjoniel79:  "Disagree with the defending the arc notions, can't be going out to play cowardly football as we'll just get rolled over. Man to man and constant pressure on the ball is the only way Monaghan can conceivably win something."
Our defence needs to be on their game for Donega,Lavell is need back if possible . Donegals running at goal will be hard to stop, our forwards will be able to punch holes in the Donegal defence a lot easier than Derry did. Donegal will be the all out favourites and rightly so, but Monaghan are capable of winning this

stoneygrey (Monaghan) - Posts: 229 - 08/04/2025 11:11:04    2601069

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Replying To stoneygrey:  "Our defence needs to be on their game for Donega,Lavell is need back if possible . Donegals running at goal will be hard to stop, our forwards will be able to punch holes in the Donegal defence a lot easier than Derry did. Donegal will be the all out favourites and rightly so, but Monaghan are capable of winning this"
Bannigan said Lavelle and Kelly will be back end of April which sounds about right considering the nature of their injuries. Hamill is long term injury. McCaul - don't know yet on his injury.

sleater (Monaghan) - Posts: 176 - 08/04/2025 12:55:11    2601089

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Replying To stoneygrey:  "Our defence needs to be on their game for Donega,Lavell is need back if possible . Donegals running at goal will be hard to stop, our forwards will be able to punch holes in the Donegal defence a lot easier than Derry did. Donegal will be the all out favourites and rightly so, but Monaghan are capable of winning this"
i could be wrong but bannigan has stated that he loves playing attacking football...granted we were in division 2 so hard to know how we'll fare out against donegal but id be hoping for more of the same...i think division 1 games were largely very conservative so itll be interesting to see how donegal cope with our fast attackers...not necessarily saying that we have better attacking players than anyone else but ill openly say that mccarthy, bannigan and ohanlon would all stroll onto every team in the country right now barr none.

agree to an extent the defence needs shoring up...a few games we looked a bit too vulnerable in the league but my hope is that we keep doing what we're doing and hopefully the players show their quality

MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 218 - 08/04/2025 14:06:28    2601101

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Massive test for the management team ahead. The first job will be to drive out any idea that a Div2 title is enough for the panel this year, and that it's Donegal's year so no shame in losing to them. If Monaghan find themselves 4 down after 50 minutes, what will the mindset be? Turn it on its head, Monaghan's desperation to progress is much much greater than Donegal's want. Not enough in itself, but we are going nowhere without at least that mentality.

Donegal are a fantastic collective outfit with superb individual footballers, huge panel depth, and an ability to play it any way you want to try them. Langan, McGee, Gallagher, Brennan and Gallen on the bench says it all. I'm convinced they left an All Ireland after them last year.

Lavelle is utterly essential. Big decisions on the inside forward line, Jack and Garland can't start together so you need Woods + 1. Dessie Ward close to goal? Need Plan B for when O'Hanlon inevitably gets crowded out for spells. As it stands, despite the scoring levels in Div 2, the main concern is getting enough on the board when the quality of opposition defence and midfield ratchets up significantly. There's multiple routes to victory for Donegal as it stands, but only a narrow path for Monaghan. Still.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1174 - 08/04/2025 14:56:22    2601112

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