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Replying To PolicemanFox: "Disappointing to lose but Kerry were up for it with a strong team and bench. The two teams are at the opposite ends of the development spectrum. Monaghan missed a few clear goal opportunities, and they had 3 or 4 blockdowns showing a bit of youthful naivety, that's all. I don't think any players have played themselves off the panel yet. Most did OK in flashes when consistency is needed - again that's a young team. That team picked today deserved another outing after the Dublin game but won't start the championship. VInny Corey is trying to give guys a good chance and find options at midfield etc. So far I think it's been a qualified success. Next 2 games will give a fuller picture." Thats a reasonable post. If we are to stay in Division 1 it was never going to be decided by results against Dublin or Kerry and to some extent Derry. Even in the cruise control of the early league they are still way ahead of us in terms of panel development given the turnover of players we've had. The two points against Dublin will prove a real bonus in the long run. What managemenet really need to see after these 3 games is any of the fringe players and young lads have what it takes to compete at this level. Then when the likes of Jones, McAnespie, Mccarthy and Ward come in for the later stages of the league, along with the old gaurd, we can give staying up a good rattle. TheHunter (Monaghan) - Posts: 14 - 04/02/2024 20:06:03 2524341 Link
Wouldn't be to annoyed with today's results, younger players probably gave Kerry to much respect in the second half . stoneygrey (Monaghan) - Posts: 213 - 04/02/2024 20:28:11 2524352 Link
Replying To PolicemanFox: "Disappointing to lose but Kerry were up for it with a strong team and bench. The two teams are at the opposite ends of the development spectrum. Monaghan missed a few clear goal opportunities, and they had 3 or 4 blockdowns showing a bit of youthful naivety, that's all. I don't think any players have played themselves off the panel yet. Most did OK in flashes when consistency is needed - again that's a young team. That team picked today deserved another outing after the Dublin game but won't start the championship. VInny Corey is trying to give guys a good chance and find options at midfield etc. So far I think it's been a qualified success. Next 2 games will give a fuller picture." Agree with a lot of this. Kerry's defence was a key difference, so the missed goal chances and numerous blocks on attempted points meant that at the final whistle we seemed some way behind. Can't get too.despondent. There was no fear in running at Kerry, looking to take scores and carving out opportunities to raise the green flag. Given what we have seen a in few years gone by this an attempt to go 'toe to toe' with, well, Kerry. Conditions didn't help, the experience undoubtedly will. Hon to the next. Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 357 - 04/02/2024 20:54:57 2524359 Link
Replying To 222: "Kerry at near full strength against a very in expierenced Monaghan team, it was comfortable for the kingdom and they toyed with us. Ideal game for monaghan onnwho is not up to it and there was at least five. We are producing very small players, kerry big strong athletes with natural footballing ability." Small some but all difference is maybe a lot younger players who fill out and all that with time but say after 2 games with dubs and kerry you would take 2 pts out of the 4 Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 214 - 04/02/2024 21:15:15 2524368 Link
Replying To Gaaforlife2023: "Small some but all difference is maybe a lot younger players who fill out and all that with time but say after 2 games with dubs and kerry you would take 2 pts out of the 4" Why was Jack O Connor up in the stands in Vlones today? border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 04/02/2024 21:44:57 2524377 Link
Replying To Gaaforlife2023: "Small some but all difference is maybe a lot younger players who fill out and all that with time but say after 2 games with dubs and kerry you would take 2 pts out of the 4" The Monaghan full-forward was exceptional, outstanding. Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 04/02/2024 21:48:29 2524380 Link
Replying To TheHunter: "Thats a reasonable post. If we are to stay in Division 1 it was never going to be decided by results against Dublin or Kerry and to some extent Derry. Even in the cruise control of the early league they are still way ahead of us in terms of panel development given the turnover of players we've had. The two points against Dublin will prove a real bonus in the long run. What managemenet really need to see after these 3 games is any of the fringe players and young lads have what it takes to compete at this level. Then when the likes of Jones, McAnespie, Mccarthy and Ward come in for the later stages of the league, along with the old gaurd, we can give staying up a good rattle." Missing the two clear cut goal chances cost ye the game. Good young team full of pace and running, but with a little more experience you should make life difficult for most teams. Good to see football being played with little back passing. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 04/02/2024 22:29:41 2524400 Link
Replying To border Gael: "Why was Jack O Connor up in the stands in Vlones today?" Probably as said tg4 see game from way back different areas u might not on sideline. Maybe the reason. Good observation. I would say that might be the reason . Also wanted win game so probably wanted to see it from different angle etc I am guessing. Expect monaghan to win a few gamed though good team Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 214 - 05/02/2024 00:27:47 2524438 Link
Replying To Gaa Fan: "The Monaghan full-forward was exceptional, outstanding." I agree jack is a class player should have mentioned him great talent Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 214 - 05/02/2024 00:28:21 2524439 Link
Replying To border Gael: "Why was Jack O Connor up in the stands in Vlones today?" Also wasn't meant at dig just thought you would talked having at least 2 points out first 4 with some on 1 and another on 0. I responded possibly see game from height or different perspective. Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 214 - 05/02/2024 00:30:45 2524440 Link
Kerry were a level above today. We done well creating plenty of goal chances but needed 3 in the bag by half time to have caused them enough problems. Clifford and o Se just a different level compared to most players in the country. Some good performances, I thought Irwin played well and is getting to grips with the game speed each match I see him. muckla (UK) - Posts: 366 - 05/02/2024 09:48:57 2524472 Link
Not too disappointed coming out of yesterday. The win against Dublin has to be definitely looked as a bonus at this stage of the teams development. With lot of inexperience in the team then inconsistencies will follow. Just like last year it might take a few of the senior players to come back in to steady the ship. Kerry started 9 of the team that started the final last year and introduced Morley and the Cliffords. When Kerry squeezed the Monaghan kickout in the second half we simply had no answers. With the exception of Mohan we don't have ball winners in that sector. Irwin with the exception of the silly over carry was very good, Hamill showed strong again. But in reality I think the crunch league games are going to the last four. If we can get Hughes,Ward,McAnespie,McCarthy, Bannigan, McManus and Jones back for the last four games I think we will survive again. Would love to see McPhillips given another chance was exceptional in the league last year. shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 05/02/2024 11:50:08 2524512 Link
Replying To shaggylegend: "Not too disappointed coming out of yesterday. The win against Dublin has to be definitely looked as a bonus at this stage of the teams development. With lot of inexperience in the team then inconsistencies will follow. Just like last year it might take a few of the senior players to come back in to steady the ship. Kerry started 9 of the team that started the final last year and introduced Morley and the Cliffords. When Kerry squeezed the Monaghan kickout in the second half we simply had no answers. With the exception of Mohan we don't have ball winners in that sector. Irwin with the exception of the silly over carry was very good, Hamill showed strong again. But in reality I think the crunch league games are going to the last four. If we can get Hughes,Ward,McAnespie,McCarthy, Bannigan, McManus and Jones back for the last four games I think we will survive again. Would love to see McPhillips given another chance was exceptional in the league last year." I think we lack going forward. We are good defenders in the main but the last 45 metres tends to be our weak point. When you see Jack mccarron kicking the play 40 yards back to his own goals means there is a problem. It gives the other team time to defend. We need more pace upfront to have any chance of winning silverware this year. 2014 along time without medals for a reasonable good team( McKenna cup is hardly setting the world on fire) Think we are a few players light upfront. Good first half Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 595 - 05/02/2024 12:47:30 2524527 Link
Replying To Bernardo: "I think we lack going forward. We are good defenders in the main but the last 45 metres tends to be our weak point. When you see Jack mccarron kicking the play 40 yards back to his own goals means there is a problem. It gives the other team time to defend. We need more pace upfront to have any chance of winning silverware this year. 2014 along time without medals for a reasonable good team( McKenna cup is hardly setting the world on fire) Think we are a few players light upfront. Good first half" A Monaghan person would know when we last won an Ulster title. shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 05/02/2024 13:37:20 2524543 Link
Replying To shaggylegend: "A Monaghan person would know when we last won an Ulster title." Not many of 2015 side still playing either. It's a new side. seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 05/02/2024 18:16:36 2524612 Link
Replying To Eddie the Exile: "A disappointing end scoreline today but still I'd be happy enough after 2 rounds with Dublin and Kerry both out of the way. The Roscommon-Galway draw and Derry win were good results for Monaghan also. It's probably fair to say that some of the fringe lads are in danger of being passed out by the new lads. O'Toole, Loughran, and Garland are struggling to convince just now but have been busting a gut at the same time. Garland in particular looks like he need to just go out and bag 1-3 to win a game and he could take off. He is needed as an option so I hope Vinny persists and gets him over the line. To be fair, O'Hanlon and Gary Mohan are growing with every game, Lavelle is suddenly a serious option at full back and Hamill, McNulty and Jason Irwin do not look over-awed. Mooney is promising too. What's the story with young McPhilips? He could be a more solid defensive option than O'Toole. Keep it up lads." I thought Sean ó shea gave lavelle a tough time throughout. The full back line really struggled. It was a reasonable performance given the team monaghan had out. Alot of newcomers, showing well and some not so much. Its the nature of the league. The latter rounds will be the key games, monaghan are very fortunate to have mayo last again (they seem like staying up and focusing to championship swiftly) which will help if points are needed come round 7. My only worry is that alot of players since 2013 like the ones yday have played these cameo roles only to never really nail down a consistent position with monaghan, managment need to see can they get a few really consistent players for the next 10 years of a strong standard. What team will be used for the cavan game, its really unknown by large at this stage. 222 (UK) - Posts: 694 - 05/02/2024 19:04:50 2524623 Link
Dammed if you do , dammed if you don't , full refresh of the team and the same few never happy.yesterday was another run out for new players and most showed good . Management are doing the right thing getting these players game time in division one . There is 7 probables still to come bad in ,a great position for any team to be in . We will prevail and then see.. stoneygrey (Monaghan) - Posts: 213 - 05/02/2024 20:14:07 2524635 Link
Replying To shaggylegend: "A Monaghan person would know when we last won an Ulster title." Shaggylegend there with an early contender for the best comment of 2024. He has set a very high bar. Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 357 - 05/02/2024 20:53:14 2524643 Link
Replying To shaggylegend: "A Monaghan person would know when we last won an Ulster title." 2015 . My typo. But just shows how petty some people can be. You did not disagree with my substantive point. We tend to be good in defence but lack a few quality forwards to make any real impact in the championship - were the big boys stand up and are counted. Monaghan have a decent team and should have a few more Ulster titles between 2015 and now. Want to address my substantive points Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 595 - 06/02/2024 10:14:41 2524704 Link
Replying To Bernardo: "2015 . My typo. But just shows how petty some people can be. You did not disagree with my substantive point. We tend to be good in defence but lack a few quality forwards to make any real impact in the championship - were the big boys stand up and are counted. Monaghan have a decent team and should have a few more Ulster titles between 2015 and now. Want to address my substantive points" I don't agree with your point about lack of forwards. I think Vinny has a lot more options in attack than defence and I believe most Monaghan supporters would recognise that. Our attack is young with the exception of McManus and Jack. But plenty of Options Bannigan, O'Hanlon Hamill, Mooney Jones McNulty Woods McCarthy McAnespie McManus McCarron Garland Irwin Ward Mohan Thats 15 players who have had game time in the forwards over the last two seasons that are involved this year. shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 06/02/2024 12:36:58 2524733 Link