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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Senior championship not too far off for Athlone? Lot of good work since 1998? Evidence please? Their underage record has been average at best over last 10-15 years, quite often not competing in Div 1 competitions, that's not knocking the club as they operate in a tough environment Gaelic games wise with soccer and rugby prominent. Personally be amazed if they reach a senior final in next five years."
Actually, I said that a senior championship MIGHT not be too far off. Personally, I wouldn't put much money on it but they have a realistic chance of reaching the final this year. Their underage has been better than Garrycastle, for instance, over the last 15 years and, as you rightly point out, Athlone (and Garrycastle) operate in a tough environment. Since 1998, Athlone has still managed to develop two additional full-size pitches and built a new gym and that took a lot of good work even if it doesn't guarantee a senior championship.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 581 - 28/08/2023 17:18:58    2502702

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Athlone would view themselves as being above Caulry with there 19 senior championship titles but they can count themselves lucky to make the quarter finals.
Caulry are 5 - 6 point better team even with Ray Connellan out injured.
At 33/1 I predicted from the get go that Caulry would make the final and they must have a serious chance now.

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 109 - 28/08/2023 17:56:42    2502707

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Replying To lakecounty90:  "Athlone would view themselves as being above Caulry with there 19 senior championship titles but they can count themselves lucky to make the quarter finals.
Caulry are 5 - 6 point better team even with Ray Connellan out injured.
At 33/1 I predicted from the get go that Caulry would make the final and they must have a serious chance now."
Caulry will likely overcome Athlone but i think that will be their lot. I dont see them making the final. It will be a Lomans v Kinnegad final in my view.

Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 655 - 29/08/2023 09:51:05    2502763

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Suggestion:

Not trying to change the championship format or anytime but was talking to friend from an other county and he couldn't believe we played all our games in neutral venues.

For Senior would 2 home games and 2 away games plus one round of games being neutral interest clubs?

Would be massive for smaller clubs having big clubs come to their village. For example, Tang host Lomans at home next year would make for great watching.

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 490 - 29/08/2023 10:14:54    2502774

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33-1 for Caulry to make the final? That bookmaker won't be long in business offering odds like that!!!

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1868 - 29/08/2023 10:24:08    2502778

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Both quarter finals should be interesting.

Tang v Tyrellspass will be close I imagine, Tang have shown to be able to grind out results while tyrellspass have been here before, Im leaning towards tang but it is all depending on the fitness of Ger Egan.

Caulry v Athlone, I think Caulry will be comfortable winners although Athlone have momentum. Caulry's county players should be able to step up and push onto a semi final.

westmeath99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 19 - 29/08/2023 10:56:39    2502790

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Replying To Temple56:  "Suggestion:

Not trying to change the championship format or anytime but was talking to friend from an other county and he couldn't believe we played all our games in neutral venues.

For Senior would 2 home games and 2 away games plus one round of games being neutral interest clubs?

Would be massive for smaller clubs having big clubs come to their village. For example, Tang host Lomans at home next year would make for great watching."
Thought most counties used neutral venues? Offaly do the same.

I'd imagine its a resource/revenue constraint, having double headers brings in more fans and is easier for stewards and refs (who often double job as linesman or 4th official at the 2nd game). I think it works fine as is tbh, many clubs have no interest in hosting championship games or aren't considered up to standard (no scoreboard, insufficient parking or poor dressing rooms etc)

martyW (Westmeath) - Posts: 333 - 29/08/2023 11:40:36    2502800

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "33-1 for Caulry to make the final? That bookmaker won't be long in business offering odds like that!!!"
I put wedge on Caulry at 33/1 each way before ball was kicked, wont beat Lomans but have very strong chance of making final do you not think?

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 109 - 29/08/2023 11:43:07    2502803

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I find it strange that a bookie would price a team in section A at 33-1 to make a final. It seems extremely generous

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1868 - 29/08/2023 12:28:14    2502815

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "I find it strange that a bookie would price a team in section A at 33-1 to make a final. It seems extremely generous"
33- 1 to win outright

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 109 - 29/08/2023 13:00:29    2502826

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Replying To Temple56:  "Suggestion:

Not trying to change the championship format or anytime but was talking to friend from an other county and he couldn't believe we played all our games in neutral venues.

For Senior would 2 home games and 2 away games plus one round of games being neutral interest clubs?

Would be massive for smaller clubs having big clubs come to their village. For example, Tang host Lomans at home next year would make for great watching."
I think you would be adding an unnecessary headache and aggro for the County Board. You will have clubs complaining that certain fixtures should not be repeated year after year. Using the example you gave (Tang Vs St Lomans) if Tang were at Home this year, would St Lomans be happy to have to play them Away again next year (if thats how the draw unfolded) or would the same fixture be a Home match for St Lomans. It would be very hard to manage along with all of the other stuff they have to manage.

I can foresee complaints from some clubs over it. I think the model we have is a great one. Nobody can complain about a neutral venue.

Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 655 - 30/08/2023 09:36:35    2502931

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Perdection for senior and intermediate football semi's????

Mooo (Westmeath) - Posts: 42 - 04/09/2023 09:49:11    2502935

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Forum back up and running!

Football Quarter finals went largely the way the majority had predicted here.

Senior Q-Finals were just not at the level for any team to be considered Senior championship Contenders.

Kinnegad Vs Lomans Final, no doubt about that.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 04/09/2023 09:54:24    2502937

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Replying To Edman78:  "Forum back up and running!

Football Quarter finals went largely the way the majority had predicted here.

Senior Q-Finals were just not at the level for any team to be considered Senior championship Contenders.

Kinnegad Vs Lomans Final, no doubt about that."
Caulry could beat kinneygad every chance

Mooo (Westmeath) - Posts: 42 - 04/09/2023 10:18:56    2502942

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Replying To Edman78:  "Forum back up and running!

Football Quarter finals went largely the way the majority had predicted here.

Senior Q-Finals were just not at the level for any team to be considered Senior championship Contenders.

Kinnegad Vs Lomans Final, no doubt about that."
Watched the Caulry v Athlone game and if Athlone had their shooting boots on, they would have won the game. Caulry struggled against their excellent defense and fair play to Cake, he got them motoring for the first 20 mins of the second half, but Athlone (without their only county player Connellan) really put it up to them.

Caulry have some great match winners, and will fancy their chances against Kinnegad, but Lomans wont be worrying too much for the rest of the Championships.

Corofin123 (Westmeath) - Posts: 11 - 04/09/2023 10:39:46    2502945

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Replying To Edman78:  "Forum back up and running!

Football Quarter finals went largely the way the majority had predicted here.

Senior Q-Finals were just not at the level for any team to be considered Senior championship Contenders.

Kinnegad Vs Lomans Final, no doubt about that."
well done to caulry and tyrrellspass

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1865 - 04/09/2023 10:43:53    2502948

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Replying To Edman78:  "Forum back up and running!

Football Quarter finals went largely the way the majority had predicted here.

Senior Q-Finals were just not at the level for any team to be considered Senior championship Contenders.

Kinnegad Vs Lomans Final, no doubt about that."
Write Caulry and Tyrrellspass off at your peril.
Big second halfs from both teams yesterday suggest they will push Lomans and Kinnegad to the limit.
Listening to 3 radio this morning Shane Curran said Caulry are massive underdogs having lost to Kinnegad by 13 or 14 points first game.
Shane got it wrong it was 4-6 to 0-10 that day, ten scores each, Caulry were unlucky to not have scored 3 or 4 themselves minus Mc Cormack,Emmet Nally, Ben Moran, Damien Dolan and few more bodies
They must have a massive chance of making first ever final what an anchivement that would be for Caulry.
Talking to few Caulry supporters on Saturday eve they said new they would meet Lomans in semi final or final and thats why they took step back for that group game.
It would be a masterstroke from Curran if they were to beat Kinnegad.

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 109 - 04/09/2023 10:55:07    2502952

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Replying To Mooo:  "Perdection for senior and intermediate football semi's????"
What are the pairings for intermediate Semi finals? Milltownpass with Sam Duncan and Brandon Kelly must have a serious chance of finally winning it

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 109 - 04/09/2023 11:00:10    2502954

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Replying To lakecounty90:  "Write Caulry and Tyrrellspass off at your peril.
Big second halfs from both teams yesterday suggest they will push Lomans and Kinnegad to the limit.
Listening to 3 radio this morning Shane Curran said Caulry are massive underdogs having lost to Kinnegad by 13 or 14 points first game.
Shane got it wrong it was 4-6 to 0-10 that day, ten scores each, Caulry were unlucky to not have scored 3 or 4 themselves minus Mc Cormack,Emmet Nally, Ben Moran, Damien Dolan and few more bodies
They must have a massive chance of making first ever final what an anchivement that would be for Caulry.
Talking to few Caulry supporters on Saturday eve they said new they would meet Lomans in semi final or final and thats why they took step back for that group game.
It would be a masterstroke from Curran if they were to beat Kinnegad."
My point is that the standard of both semi finals, regardless of if they were competitive games or not, was a mile off the standard we've seen from Kinnegad and Lomans this year.

News over the weekend was that John Heslin will miss the semi final with a facial injury of some kind and Peter Foy has been given a 3 match ban, and will potentially miss the whole championship. Not fully convinced about the truth with both of those scenarios if anyone can clarify?

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 04/09/2023 11:52:24    2502963

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Replying To lakecounty90:  "What are the pairings for intermediate Semi finals? Milltownpass with Sam Duncan and Brandon Kelly must have a serious chance of finally winning it"
Malchys tuberclair
Milton vs Miltown pass
Any one of four can win. Wouldn't rule out Malachys either going well

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 480 - 04/09/2023 12:21:08    2502976

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