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I think that has been a problem the past few seasons. We can score points and not many goals but the big problem is at the other end of the pitch. We seem to leak too many goals
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1325 - 05/01/2025 12:53:55 2584689 Link 0 |
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I attended a local match to me last night: kildare against galway. The big change i saw in relation to the rules was galway's ability to kick long range points - teams that have this ability are likely to flourish under the new rules. Our players don't seem to be able to do this based upon what i've seen at county and club level. The team also struggle to score goals. A team's ability to get goals is hugely beneficial in terms of getting good results - sounds obvious. In relation to Dean Healy, he's a big player for us but his days at intercounty level are drawn to a close, some other up and coming players need to step up now and take on this role. Hopefully Wicklow management have some more challenges games lined up as the rule changes will tale some getting use to and not just for players.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2037 - 05/01/2025 15:15:27 2584716 Link 0 |
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Wont win anything conceding 4-19. Dublin had 1 regular.
heavyheart19 (Wicklow) - Posts: 146 - 05/01/2025 21:22:33 2584732 Link 0 |
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Love the positivity I'd say you are great craic.
Albundy19 (Wicklow) - Posts: 76 - 06/01/2025 11:20:04 2584763 Link 0 |
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True but we won't be playing any side with the same calibre of player as Dublin in Division 4 so we need to put things into perspective. The new rules will have an impact which is why it is important to play as many challenge matches in January as possible regardless of what the results are. I have some concerns about us in terms of the new rules. As you've highlighted we don't score enough goals and we have conceded too many goals in the last few years. It will be harder to play the blanket defence under the new rules which means that we need players who can man mark and win their own ball, I'd have concerns about the size of our players in this regard. But like a lot of other counties, the players are entering unchartered waters with the new rules so we'll have to wait and see. Promotion to Division 3 should be our number one priority for 2025; it won't be easy and a good start to the league will be required in order to push for promotion. I think most supporters are realistic in terms of expectations for the team based upon what they see of the players at club level.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2037 - 06/01/2025 12:10:51 2584766 Link 0 |
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Div4 could see most of the teams taking points off eachother this year.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14234 - 06/01/2025 16:23:23 2584797 Link 0 |
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I agree. Division 4 is wide open. Any two teams could be promoted. Wicklow will have their work cut out to win promotion but promotion should be our aim. It will also be the aim of a lot of the other counties as they look ahead to start of the league including Wexford.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2037 - 06/01/2025 18:59:22 2584818 Link 0 |
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I see that we are starting to have a good representation on various 3rd level teams which can only be a major boost to the county in the longer term. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1325 - 07/01/2025 12:34:36 2584891 Link 0 |
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Massive workload on lots of those lads on 3rd level teams, almost every player on panels are also a part of the county senior panel. Interesting to see if many feature. By the sounds of it lots of club teams are still on the manager hunt, new rules obviously turning many off the idea of management. Onlywayiswicklow (Wicklow) - Posts: 5 - 07/01/2025 14:37:24 2584917 Link 0 |
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Not a fantasist,sorry.
heavyheart19 (Wicklow) - Posts: 146 - 07/01/2025 15:19:34 2584930 Link 0 |
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Where was game played? Who playing for the Dubs?
CorkLiamMcCarthy24 (Cork) - Posts: 66 - 07/01/2025 15:24:30 2584933 Link 0 |
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Can anyone put together a list of Wicklow players playing in the Sigerson?
TopDrawer (Wicklow) - Posts: 65 - 07/01/2025 17:26:36 2584952 Link 0 |
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Tom Moran Cathal Baker Matthew Ging Joe Prendergast Malachy Stone Matt Nolan Conor Fee Darragh Fee Jack Treacy Hawkeye2 (Wicklow) - Posts: 144 - 07/01/2025 20:14:10 2584973 Link 0 |
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Add Ryan Rodgers.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1325 - 07/01/2025 22:12:09 2584979 Link 0 |
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Why would these new rules turn someone off a management role? The new rules have yet to be fully tested in competition but I'd imagine coaching, motivating or trying to convince a player to play the style we've endured for the last number of years would be no easy job. At least the new rules should facilitate players to start kicking the ball again. We might even be able to refer to the game as football again.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2037 - 08/01/2025 11:21:57 2585011 Link 0 |
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Agree that there's huge positives with the new rules. Managers who may have implemented defensive structures with every team they've coached will now have the reassess their game plans and coaching philosophies, hence why I feel the new rules may turn many off applying for club jobs, especially with it being the first year the rules have been introduced.
Onlywayiswicklow (Wicklow) - Posts: 5 - 08/01/2025 14:39:16 2585033 Link 0 |
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Thanks very much. Great to see.
TopDrawer (Wicklow) - Posts: 65 - 08/01/2025 22:27:11 2585103 Link 0 |
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Time will tell and you may well have a valid point that managers will sit out next year to see how the new rules impact the game. On the other hand, maybe some of these coaches/managers might be one trick ponies. I don't mean to criticise existing manager but I have often wondered is their role over hyped; how difficult can it be to get fifteen players to rotate in front of their own goals and try to caught teams on the break? The new rules will force more players to mark their opponent one to one. Equally, forwards will need to learn to kick long range points as oppose to punching the ball over the bar such is the scoring difference with regard to points from 40 meters out. I'd imagine that coaching the individual skills of the original game will be required, if a team and its players are to be successful under the new rules.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2037 - 09/01/2025 14:19:39 2585182 Link 0 |
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Keen to see how the new rules play out at club level. I'd have some big concerns around how some of these are going to be officiated, particularly in club league games that often get played with no official linesmen or neutral umpires. Expecting a non-neutral , who may have just been cornered to stand in as umpire just prior to the throw in, to appropriately adjudicate whether the kicker was inside or outside the arc and signal 2 point vs 1 point scores, I think it's going to cause a lot of flash points. Hawkeye2 (Wicklow) - Posts: 144 - 09/01/2025 15:56:31 2585196 Link 0 |
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Seems like the 3 back rule was a contentious issue last weekend with a top referee in charge. Reads as it was a fiasco with the crowd calling out if a team didn't comply. I literally will be fun and games. That's a good point about club league games with no official linesmen and umpires. Imagine a Jun C or D game ?? Who would want to be a ref.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1325 - 09/01/2025 18:51:50 2585236 Link 0 |