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Honestly Sligonian, this is become embarrassing. I spoke to separate men in Coolera who told me that Keaney was decent. No mention of him being the best player on the field. In regards to the lad, I think it's quite common knowledge that he wasn't pulling up trees in training with the Senior team earlier in the year. But again, this isn't an attack on the lad. I for one think he is the makings of a very good player for Sligo. Anyone who watched the U20s will think the same but there is a reason he's not in and I'd very much doubt it's that McEntee doesn't like the lad for some misguided reason. He needs quality players but they have to mach the levels of the lads already in there. Sligonian, I will say this, if a player is good enough and doing the right things, they will make it. So let's hope that's the case here. I'm sure it will be in time but for now, maybe give the lad a chance to do well at club level for the next couple of months and hopefully, regardless of who is in the hot seat, will have a good pre-season and be a part of the playing panel for 2025. In regards to players breaking through, it should be tough. Can you explain why it would be easy? Again, who are these weak links? I know there were a couple of more experienced guys in the panel, I don't need to name them but I think it's probably a case of keeping some experience if necessary. It's not as if the panel is littered with them. What part of the step up from U20 to Div 3/4 level do you not agree with? I think if you asked any member of the panel who made that jump, they'd tell you. If not, then why aren't we in an All Ireland final this year? As said previously, you can't blood all these players together or guys like yourself will be questioning why we are losing so many games. In regards to closing games out, Galway was a mistake against in possession against the All Ireland finalists by Eddie McGuinness and the Down game, a rush of blood to the head maybe by Nathan Mullen. Will we replace these guys? Would that have closed it out better? Two of our best players this year. What is your point? I certainly wouldn't see myself as the one having an agenda here. I see myself as a Sligo fan that has missed maybe a game a year for the past 20/25 years and seen wonderful days and some truly awful disheartening times. And while you may say that we are still very much in a transitional phase with a new crop slowly coming in, I don't see that we are currently in anything close to disheartening times. I think your second last line shows that perhaps it's you that has the agenda, "Because he is getting the best out of some players that have a low ceiling and they may regress and I could see him being slow to see this" So would we be happier if he wasn't getting the best out of them? It's an awful argument. As I've stated here several times, we all know he's not perfect. I'm not sure who out there is but he's done a job that has made us the first bit of decent progress in a decade. The grass is always greener Sligonian and I think you need to take the Grange blinkers off. A new manager coming in with a couple of lads stepping away could be under immense pressure if they went down from Division 3. Where would you be then? Telling us that it was becasue Caroline Currid wasn't there? When the day comes that it looks like things are regressing, then it will be time to move on. Until such time, I don't see the reason to personally. johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 127 - 23/07/2024 08:57:24 2560806 Link 1 |
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Muscles is absolutely right. What was your point there? It made no sense whatsoever. How fast is fast enough for you Sligonian? Should a team who has struggled at the pits of National League Football for years now automatically push aside everyone else because we got to an U20 All Ireland final once? I really think that despite being a very good group in 2023, they are becoming a little overhyped and don't think it does them any favours to keep suggesting they should be all be thrown in at the deep end. I don't agree with his decisions very often but guess what, I'm not the manager, I'm not a coach or a player in the setup or anyone that sees what they do every night. For that reason, I don't pretend to understand the reasoning behind his decisions as I only see these guys maybe 10-20 percent as much as he does. Are we not in a much better place then when he took over? I couldn't care less if he stays or goes if I'm honest because I can't control it anyway but he seems to have hurt your feelings a bit. For a man that admits to not attending his own club games, you seem to know a lot. Bumblebee123 (Sligo) - Posts: 56 - 23/07/2024 10:21:53 2560823 Link 0 |
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Sligonian is correct. I think there is some hard turths the county needs to face. The time is now. McEntee out! Caroline Currid, Gerry McGown, the ghost of Shane MacGowan and Jurgen Klopp in. You know it makes sense. As Sligonian has said, McEntee has been too loyal to a lot of these players. Cawley, Quinn, McLoughlin, Towey, etc. Ice_cream_dromore (Sligo) - Posts: 30 - 23/07/2024 10:27:37 2560825 Link 1 |
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I think overhyped is possibly the wrong word. It was a wonderful couple of months following them. They were a super well organised unit, until Mulligan got injured. But you're right in essence. The gap to senior intercounty is significantly larger than Sligonian would care to admit or possibly understand. I will reiterate however that I think that 8-12 of the players involved in that panel will find themselves in the plans of management over the next 18-24 months. It will just take some more time for some of them compared to others, to get their S&C and game speed to Intercounty level. And as you seem to state, the McEntee conversation on this thread is tiresome at this stage. He may stay and have a disastrous 2025. He may leave and it be worse again. I'm sure either way, that one or two of the posters on this thread will be on hand to tell us they were right. johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 127 - 23/07/2024 13:33:49 2560903 Link 0 |
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I have to say, had a giggle at this and I'm sure Sligonian did too. Likely, the most tongue in cheek post I've seen in some time on this thread. Maith an fear!
johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 127 - 23/07/2024 13:37:44 2560909 Link 0 |
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You should have just stopped at "Sligonian is correct". ;)
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1739 - 23/07/2024 17:26:19 2561022 Link 0 |
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I think Bumblebee is correct on the point that none of us are in control. Because the CB love him it is McEntee's call if he stays or goes and we can debate it all day on here but it doesn't really matter. I just hope if he does stay he improve's and learns from some of the mistakes he has made. I have made more than enough points for moving on as I do feel he can be a slow learner but I don't disagree with all your positive points on McEntee, we are well organised and we are very good to watch. The next stage of this team's development will be the hardest and most pressure. Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1739 - 23/07/2024 17:46:25 2561025 Link 0 |
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eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 23/07/2024 19:18:36 2561050 Link 0 |
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OMG. You think MC Entee is a slow learner. Maybe you should just use google. It will give you his credentials. I actually think you are pulling the piss or else you are really really dumb.
Taypot (Sligo) - Posts: 77 - 23/07/2024 19:29:01 2561053 Link 0 |
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The next step for mcentee or any potential new manager will rely on who's available. We might not have some experienced players for 2025 due to travel.
westvoice (Sligo) - Posts: 58 - 24/07/2024 11:57:34 2561192 Link 0 |
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Did anyone read the Weekender last week where the sports editor was of the opinion that any player who travelled to America for the summer should not be allowed play for the club for the rest of the year. Fairly draconian I thought. Need to be careful what you wish for. Young lads will still travel and when they return we would just be pushing them into other sports if they are not allowed play Gaelic. Playing on a pitch on a wet evening in June with no spectators present compared to beautiful sunshine and a brilliant experience, in my book there's only one winner. eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1978 - 24/07/2024 14:15:05 2561232 Link 0 |
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All the best to the Sligo ladies u18 team in the in the Intermediate All Ireland final against Tyrone this Saturday in Brewster park in Enniskillen at 2pm. It is being live streamed on youtube. Hopefully we go one step further this year and plenty of support is there. Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1739 - 24/07/2024 17:15:00 2561295 Link 0 |
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I don't know how this gets past the moderators but maybe Taypot you need to make another sign for outside McGeeneys house and put Tony Macs credentials on it. I don't think we in Sligo care about what he achieved before us.
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1739 - 24/07/2024 17:18:19 2561297 Link 0 |
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There is a lot of love for McEntee here and the games were enjoyable this year but...who have we beaten in his time in charge? It is enjoyable watching us beat D4 & D3 teams but the reality is we are nowhere near D2 and we should be. Regarding getting U20s up to senior level, there are 2 players on the current team that would have struggled to make the recent U20 teams and anyone who can't see that isn't looking at the current setup objectively. MrUnderhill (Sligo) - Posts: 69 - 24/07/2024 23:04:48 2561368 Link 0 |
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I was always an avid supporter of lads getting away but as much as I'm a fan of the split season, it will allow for county players to take off after each intercounty season. This year in Sligo has been a bit of a joke and really taken off any gloss of the end of the league. But to see that many players will not even be back for the start of championship is disappointing. I'm all for advancement of the game in the US and lads living but I think it's gone too far, personally. By all means, a person who's on a J1, go and do it for a year - we all did, but the disrespect to the clubs here is shocking in my opinion.
johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 127 - 25/07/2024 08:33:37 2561398 Link 0 |
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A lot of talk on this thread about this but haven't heard anyone mentioned other than Sean Carrabine.
johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 127 - 25/07/2024 08:45:08 2561400 Link 0 |
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I don't think it's love for the man. I personally have no strong feelings on him either way. He's from Armagh after all :) I just think he's made progress and the alternative might not be as good as we'd hope for. I'd also argue that to say we are nowhere near a division 2 side is hardly right, considering a win away from promotion. We only played division 3 sides, Leitrim, Galway and in the Tailteann so who do you want us to beat? We were a hairs breadth from beating Galway and went to extra time with a decent Down side who, I think it's safe to say would have been well ahead in recent times. Now we are every bit as good of a side. We are closing the gap slowly in my honest opinion but Rome wasn't built in a day. In terms of your point on any senior player not being able to make an U20 team, I think your point makes little sense and in any case is most definitely wrong. I'm not sure what level you played until but it's a huge jump whether you like it or not and I think if you asked any of the starting 15 in there, they'd tell you the same. Again, I don't care for McEntee either way, but wouldn't be surprised if we're talking here in 2 years time saying it's a pity he didn't stay. Hope I'm wrong. Bumblebee123 (Sligo) - Posts: 56 - 25/07/2024 10:46:43 2561423 Link 0 |
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That'll be a big sign Sligonian. What sort of material should Taypot be using for it? Is Corriboard good enough I wonder? And nor do I care what he has achieved. I think we need to live in an equal society where the opportunity to manage sligo is open to anyone. It should be part of Club Sligo draw. Would you come in with me if I went for it after he goes? Ice_cream_dromore (Sligo) - Posts: 30 - 25/07/2024 10:57:06 2561429 Link 0 |
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That is right eoinog. It's madness playing football in the rain in June. Club football in Sligo is dying. Reduce it to 6 a side and play it off over a weekend in Enniscrones indoor astroturf. League May Bank Holiday. Championship October Bank Holiday. The important thing here is that lads don't play for the Summer.
Ice_cream_dromore (Sligo) - Posts: 30 - 25/07/2024 11:00:07 2561432 Link 0 |
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Neither have I heard of anyone else travelling. Most of the lads that went to America are home. Some of them never kicked a ball, failed to get sanctioned from Croker
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1978 - 25/07/2024 11:13:29 2561442 Link 0 |