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Replying To rorysboys:  "Murphy was the difference in 2012 . Mc Guinness great manager yea Lacey big neill the Mc gees frank mc Glynn and toye and Mc fadden all great players but Murphy was the spark that brought it all together. I wudnt leave Rory Gallagher out either another great coach.. wee question Marty if Murphy and Co wernt happy with bonner and rochford would they be there this long. I await your reply."
Roryboy it's not a case of certain players being happy or not it's a results business and our results under this mgt isn't good enough. Maybe there is certain players very happy with mgt as they are guaranteed a game and dictate what happens. There are 40odd clubs in county with lot of players unhappy that they not getting a look in with this mgt. There is no room for loyalty at top level of sport Roryboy. Seems like a lot of boys from bonners underage years getting on and aren't producing it but yet they keep getting on and aren't producing the goods. As Craig said on dl debate we are so predictable same faces in same places all the time no change up of position even.

marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 142 - 04/06/2022 18:44:55    2422179

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Replying To marty234:  "Roryboy it's not a case of certain players being happy or not it's a results business and our results under this mgt isn't good enough. Maybe there is certain players very happy with mgt as they are guaranteed a game and dictate what happens. There are 40odd clubs in county with lot of players unhappy that they not getting a look in with this mgt. There is no room for loyalty at top level of sport Roryboy. Seems like a lot of boys from bonners underage years getting on and aren't producing it but yet they keep getting on and aren't producing the goods. As Craig said on dl debate we are so predictable same faces in same places all the time no change up of position even."
Who's Craig didn't listen to that debate. The best players are on the squad, tell me who these players are.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1511 - 04/06/2022 19:54:23    2422207

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If the story that's being spun is that Murphy had an injured ankle the last day and that's why he was playing around midfield instead of FF, then why was he taking 45's off the ground if he had a bad ankle??
No wonder his accuracy was off if he had a sore ankle. could Patton or Paddy or Langan or somebody not have taken the long range frees and 45's?

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2066 - 04/06/2022 20:19:25    2422217

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "If the story that's being spun is that Murphy had an injured ankle the last day and that's why he was playing around midfield instead of FF, then why was he taking 45's off the ground if he had a bad ankle??
No wonder his accuracy was off if he had a sore ankle. could Patton or Paddy or Langan or somebody not have taken the long range frees and 45's?"
Good point but we're only guessing it was his ankle. As you know your self nobody knows what his injury was. But from being at the game especially in the second half not once did he make them attacking runs, he was quite happy to play it simple.
I've no doubt his injury caused us another Ulster title. Big draw tomorrow four teams we can meet
Cork. Mayo. Clare. Tyrone or Armagh. Probably better getting mayo or the winners of todays game. To have any chance in the last 8 you would need a big performance in the next round. Are games neutral doe's anybody know.?

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1511 - 05/06/2022 10:38:20    2422321

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Good point but we're only guessing it was his ankle. As you know your self nobody knows what his injury was. But from being at the game especially in the second half not once did he make them attacking runs, he was quite happy to play it simple.
I've no doubt his injury caused us another Ulster title. Big draw tomorrow four teams we can meet
Cork. Mayo. Clare. Tyrone or Armagh. Probably better getting mayo or the winners of todays game. To have any chance in the last 8 you would need a big performance in the next round. Are games neutral doe's anybody know.?"
I thought they had learned their lesson about playing injured players after what happened with Murphy last year.He played when he shouldn't have been playing making the injury worse.The same could happen this time.They seemed to have been very careful with injured players this year but then again there seems to be different laws for Murphy.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 822 - 05/06/2022 11:32:12    2422350

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Replying To gunman:  "I thought they had learned their lesson about playing injured players after what happened with Murphy last year.He played when he shouldn't have been playing making the injury worse.The same could happen this time.They seemed to have been very careful with injured players this year but then again there seems to be different laws for Murphy."
Different laws for Murphy are you for real. A lot of ex players have spoke about presence on the pitch of Murphy. He might've been 100 per cent but he was still worth risking. Didn't Tyrone not win an all Ireland with a half fit canavan.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1511 - 05/06/2022 12:22:27    2422375

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "If the story that's being spun is that Murphy had an injured ankle the last day and that's why he was playing around midfield instead of FF, then why was he taking 45's off the ground if he had a bad ankle??
No wonder his accuracy was off if he had a sore ankle. could Patton or Paddy or Langan or somebody not have taken the long range frees and 45's?"
This sounds like another addition to our long list of excuses when we get beat. I don't think Murphy was injured but he looked exhausted in extra time. It was bizarre to think he could play in defence if he was injured. Quite a few of our players looked out on their feet and Derry definitely had the edge in that department. Surely we wouldn't have started an injured player after what happened against Tyrone last year.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1813 - 05/06/2022 12:55:44    2422390

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Good point but we're only guessing it was his ankle. As you know your self nobody knows what his injury was. But from being at the game especially in the second half not once did he make them attacking runs, he was quite happy to play it simple.
I've no doubt his injury caused us another Ulster title. Big draw tomorrow four teams we can meet
Cork. Mayo. Clare. Tyrone or Armagh. Probably better getting mayo or the winners of todays game. To have any chance in the last 8 you would need a big performance in the next round. Are games neutral doe's anybody know.?"
If Armagh win we can't draw them as we played them already I think, I'd imagine the next games will be neutral venues, it would be good if they gave the beaten provincial finalists a home game though.
Clare or Cork would be no walk overs either but we def need a big win to get the confidence back, sick of playing Ulster teams at this stage.
Everybody I speak to is saying we have to play Murphy at FF now, I think we would have beaten Derry if he'd played in there the last day, anyway on we go, the draws on tomorrow morning and then get set for Sat or Sunday whatever day it's on. Hope we can get our campaign back on track, it would give the county a great lift.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2066 - 05/06/2022 13:30:21    2422401

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "This sounds like another addition to our long list of excuses when we get beat. I don't think Murphy was injured but he looked exhausted in extra time. It was bizarre to think he could play in defence if he was injured. Quite a few of our players looked out on their feet and Derry definitely had the edge in that department. Surely we wouldn't have started an injured player after what happened against Tyrone last year."
Well according to what Manus said in the Democrat he was injured so that's why he wasn't played at FF, Hard story to believe right enough.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2066 - 05/06/2022 13:40:14    2422403

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "If Armagh win we can't draw them as we played them already I think, I'd imagine the next games will be neutral venues, it would be good if they gave the beaten provincial finalists a home game though.
Clare or Cork would be no walk overs either but we def need a big win to get the confidence back, sick of playing Ulster teams at this stage.
Everybody I speak to is saying we have to play Murphy at FF now, I think we would have beaten Derry if he'd played in there the last day, anyway on we go, the draws on tomorrow morning and then get set for Sat or Sunday whatever day it's on. Hope we can get our campaign back on track, it would give the county a great lift."
We can draw Armagh. It's one of Armagh cork Clare or mayo.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1511 - 05/06/2022 16:07:03    2422455

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "This sounds like another addition to our long list of excuses when we get beat. I don't think Murphy was injured but he looked exhausted in extra time. It was bizarre to think he could play in defence if he was injured. Quite a few of our players looked out on their feet and Derry definitely had the edge in that department. Surely we wouldn't have started an injured player after what happened against Tyrone last year."
Sure that's it GG always an excuse. The truth is there has been a steady decline after initial promise under Declan. I think at the time when he was appointed the general initial pessimism was replaced by optimism given the team Declan has around him. That is now gone and lets be honest the backroom shuffle we were promised was underwhelming to say the least. The one positive was retaining Rochford but the football we've been playing is not what you would associate with him. There doesn't seem to be much continuity in playing squad with players coming in and out of favour on a year by year with certain players indispensable regardless of how they're playing. Last Sunday was a complete shambles from the sideline. Between the utilization of Murphy to not correcting given the damage Rogers was doing, poor substitutions and the bizzare situation of not changing the team with extra time in mind. Isn't that why the chairman is apparently sitting on the bench to know these things given his background. Regardless he should be in the stands like the rest of us. I don't think many of us were convinced but were optimistic we were building towards getting a more complete performance....more fools us. While the season is not finished can keep full appraisals for another day. In relation to the draw anybody but Armagh as sick of the sight of Ulster teams. The way the draw is likely to take shape I doubt it'll be more than a game or two anyways.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2726 - 05/06/2022 16:10:09    2422456

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I seen a score from a Club game in Donegal today. Letterkenny 1-1 to Kilcar 1-4. Thats desperate. Slow hand passing no doubt ,with packed defence.

A good summers day should be high scoring.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2487 - 05/06/2022 16:51:56    2422471

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "I seen a score from a Club game in Donegal today. Letterkenny 1-1 to Kilcar 1-4. Thats desperate. Slow hand passing no doubt ,with packed defence.

A good summers day should be high scoring."
I thought this was the ht score initially and then realised actually it was the ft score. Donegal live refered to it as dull. I sense that does a disservice to the word dull. Folks on here debating 2014 all ireland and the ins and outs of how michael murphy was deployed last week. Really it's the club game that frustrates the most (particularly between the best teams). The last few county finals have been a real tough watch. Why bother go out and play if a match is going to end in such a miserable score.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 615 - 05/06/2022 20:51:40    2422595

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Never asked you would we win all Ireland without Mc Guinness. Stop making up your own questions to answer. Your previous post at the finish you wished the players well for the rest of the year but no word of management, sums u up all right.. it's people like you who don't go to games who are the biggest mouths.. lol"
I don't think that was a question. It was a just a statement. How do u know he doesn't go to games..

Gumball (Donegal) - Posts: 34 - 05/06/2022 22:01:12    2422616

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Different laws for Murphy are you for real. A lot of ex players have spoke about presence on the pitch of Murphy. He might've been 100 per cent but he was still worth risking. Didn't Tyrone not win an all Ireland with a half fit canavan."
I agree with gunman and disagree with you on this, Brendan Roger's last point for Derry was possible because Murphy couldn't track him due to cramp. Any fully fit Donegal player from the bench would have done a better job, the management team should have acted instead of procrastinating.

Tyrone used Peter Canavan strategically in 2003, the Donegal management seem afraid to take Murphy off or spring him from the bench, its like if he wants to start he starts. I can understand talk of his influence and presence back in 2018 when the squad was really young, but the majority are now 25-27, time to fish or cut bait.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 843 - 06/06/2022 08:51:34    2422644

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So we are playing Armagh at a neutral venue next weekend, should be an interesting match considering they will now be riding in on a high after taking Tyrone.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 843 - 06/06/2022 08:54:16    2422646

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Bloody Armagh... sick to the back teeth of facing Ulster teams at this point. Would have much preferred Mayo.

It will probably be in Clones won't it? Or maybe Enniskillen

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1410 - 06/06/2022 08:54:38    2422647

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Replying To Gumball:  "I don't think that was a question. It was a just a statement. How do u know he doesn't go to games.."
When you write a post an hour after an Ulster final it's pretty obvious you weren't there. I already questioned the keeper on it and he never denied it. Any more questions

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1511 - 06/06/2022 08:57:52    2422649

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "Bloody Armagh... sick to the back teeth of facing Ulster teams at this point. Would have much preferred Mayo.

It will probably be in Clones won't it? Or maybe Enniskillen"
I'd say Clones or Breffni Park, as they will be expecting a big crowd, but it could also be Healy Park or Enniskillen.

Yeah I think everyone at this point would have preferred something fresh.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 843 - 06/06/2022 10:50:52    2422690

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "Bloody Armagh... sick to the back teeth of facing Ulster teams at this point. Would have much preferred Mayo.

It will probably be in Clones won't it? Or maybe Enniskillen"
It's the draw neither team wanted and find the inconsistency of the draw frustrating with repeats to be avoided next week. The last neutral championship match was Cavan which is a little out of the way but is the best stadium. I'd rather it than clones. Healy park would be best from distance point if view. It's not a huge venue but just can't see many going from Donegal so capacity would be fine. When all is said and done it'll end up being clones!

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 615 - 06/06/2022 11:01:24    2422701

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