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Replying To greenfan:  "Mogan and Gallen definitely out according to an interview with Aidan O'Rourke."
Just heard that. Big losses. Up to others now to step up. Wouldn't it be great if someone like Bradley Walsh came in & hit the ground running? It would be such a boost for morale.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9766 - 18/04/2023 20:14:32    2471676

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Replying To greatpoint:  "There is absolutely no doubt that Murphy would still be playing if everything hadn't fallen apart."
Didn't he (Murphy) tell the GAA social that he made his mind up after the Armagh game?

As I said before, Donegal fell into the same trap Kerry did in the 80's.... Had a fantastic successful group of players but didn't look to the future and develop the replacements. Donegal fans are just going to have to sick it up for next few years until new talent comes through (hopefully)

On a more positive note, I watched Odhran McNeilis last weekend in fintra. Looks lean and showed glipses of old player. Played midfield.
Hopefully next year's management get him back, he is only 30 (I think)

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 271 - 18/04/2023 21:02:59    2471682

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "Didn't he (Murphy) tell the GAA social that he made his mind up after the Armagh game?

As I said before, Donegal fell into the same trap Kerry did in the 80's.... Had a fantastic successful group of players but didn't look to the future and develop the replacements. Donegal fans are just going to have to sick it up for next few years until new talent comes through (hopefully)

On a more positive note, I watched Odhran McNeilis last weekend in fintra. Looks lean and showed glipses of old player. Played midfield.
Hopefully next year's management get him back, he is only 30 (I think)"
MacNiallais won't be back playing for Donegal. People need to look forward and stop looking back at Murphy, MacNiallais etc.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 636 - 19/04/2023 11:00:43    2471745

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Replying To greenfan:  "MacNiallais won't be back playing for Donegal. People need to look forward and stop looking back at Murphy, MacNiallais etc."
I agree neither will probably be back, but I would like to see them back. There is always a lot of talk about transition, but when it comes to championship we should always look to put the best team out on any given day with a good chance of winning. Managers will always have to blood new players and evolve a team, but if the older fella's are able to improve a team then they should be involved.

himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 19/04/2023 12:23:18    2471768

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Donegal is often thought of as the forgotten county, no motorway, no rail line etc etc. homes falling apart because of substandard blocks and no one seems to give a damn, as far as the southern media are concerned I don't think half of them know at times if we are part of the six counties or the free state,
but on top of all of that we are great at making rocks for our own backs up here and shooting ourselves in both feet.
Just look at the mess the GAA is in here now, no academy, some our best players opting out or retiring early many feel, lads who would have had the whole county fully behind them had they got the senior management appointment they should have got.
Now what do we have? a senior men's team that looks unfit and rudderless, a temporary management team that most of us want rid off asap.
Another fine mess we have got ourselves into. Of course we will all support the boys on Sunday and we may have different views on things but we are all Donegal supporters to the core at the end of the day, if we didn't care we it wouldn't matter so much to us.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3196 - 19/04/2023 12:29:44    2471769

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Replying To greenfan:  "MacNiallais won't be back playing for Donegal. People need to look forward and stop looking back at Murphy, MacNiallais etc."
Who else is there? Murphy is 33 and has taken a serious amount of abuse physically over years. McNealis is 30 and hasn't played intercounty for a number of years so has a bit of freshness about him. He also appears to be in best shape in a long time.

I would rather see McNealis than rushing Eoin mcgettigan back too soon as others are suggesting....the last thing you want is for him to do his knee a third or fourth time

Serious lack of forward options in county panel, you could do worse than bring McNealis back.

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 271 - 19/04/2023 15:34:20    2471801

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "Who else is there? Murphy is 33 and has taken a serious amount of abuse physically over years. McNealis is 30 and hasn't played intercounty for a number of years so has a bit of freshness about him. He also appears to be in best shape in a long time.

I would rather see McNealis than rushing Eoin mcgettigan back too soon as others are suggesting....the last thing you want is for him to do his knee a third or fourth time

Serious lack of forward options in county panel, you could do worse than bring McNealis back."
Nobody is saying Odhrán can't cut it at intercounty, but the reality is that he will not be coming back to the panel. There's no point wishing about it or hypothesising, everyone in Donegal knows that MacNiallis will not be playing intercounty and that's his choice, end of story, respect his choice and leave it as is.

CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 180 - 19/04/2023 15:43:17    2471803

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "Who else is there? Murphy is 33 and has taken a serious amount of abuse physically over years. McNealis is 30 and hasn't played intercounty for a number of years so has a bit of freshness about him. He also appears to be in best shape in a long time.

I would rather see McNealis than rushing Eoin mcgettigan back too soon as others are suggesting....the last thing you want is for him to do his knee a third or fourth time

Serious lack of forward options in county panel, you could do worse than bring McNealis back."
Agree with your point there is a lack of forwards in the panel but I think Donegal are as good as anyone in the Half forward and 3rd midfielder options.

It's the inside scoring forwards that Donegal don't seem to have enough off in the panel. I don't accept the argument there is a lack of county standard inside forwards playing club football at the moment. I would hope O'Rourke has a look at the inside forwards playing club football at all 4 Divisions and call up 5 or 6 and Blood 3 or 4 to start building for next year.

Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 35 - 19/04/2023 16:01:53    2471810

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Replying To himachechy:  "I agree neither will probably be back, but I would like to see them back. There is always a lot of talk about transition, but when it comes to championship we should always look to put the best team out on any given day with a good chance of winning. Managers will always have to blood new players and evolve a team, but if the older fella's are able to improve a team then they should be involved."
Yeah Darragh O'Sé's column in the Irish Times had a similar theme. He talked about how Jack O'Connor had absolutely no qualms about talking Mike McCarthy back into the Kerry fold in the 00's and it worked a treat.

Similarly, the Dubs have Mannion and McCaffrey back in the fold, not to mention a certain Mr Cluxton.

I know each situation is different, and I don't think we'll see either MacNiallais or Murphy in a Donegal jersey again. But if something changed, and the lads were up for it, then it would be ludicrous not to involve them because they're still probably in the top 5 players in the county - Murphy certainly.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9766 - 19/04/2023 16:03:43    2471811

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "Who else is there? Murphy is 33 and has taken a serious amount of abuse physically over years. McNealis is 30 and hasn't played intercounty for a number of years so has a bit of freshness about him. He also appears to be in best shape in a long time.

I would rather see McNealis than rushing Eoin mcgettigan back too soon as others are suggesting....the last thing you want is for him to do his knee a third or fourth time

Serious lack of forward options in county panel, you could do worse than bring McNealis back."
You can't just 'bring people back'. They have to want to play inter-county. MacNiallais is probably fresh looking because he is free from the burden of playing inter county football and all the pressure, training and work that goes with that. He had some tough times in the past in his personal life and probably stepped away for his own good and probably because he wants to play football, not be part of a 15 man defensive setup which is what most modern teams have become. Its great to hear that he is rejuvenated and enjoying football again, good luck to him, he'll be some asset to his club if he's playing well. There's more important things in life than playing for your county.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 636 - 19/04/2023 16:31:51    2471818

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Replying To greenfan:  "You can't just 'bring people back'. They have to want to play inter-county. MacNiallais is probably fresh looking because he is free from the burden of playing inter county football and all the pressure, training and work that goes with that. He had some tough times in the past in his personal life and probably stepped away for his own good and probably because he wants to play football, not be part of a 15 man defensive setup which is what most modern teams have become. Its great to hear that he is rejuvenated and enjoying football again, good luck to him, he'll be some asset to his club if he's playing well. There's more important things in life than playing for your county."
Yeah and Gaoth Dobhair seem to be tipping away nicely. New management team in place and some of last year's u21s pushing things on. Last year they were maybe #4 of the so-called top 4. Think they'll be looking to improve on that certainly this year.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9766 - 19/04/2023 16:57:25    2471822

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yeah Darragh O'Sé's column in the Irish Times had a similar theme. He talked about how Jack O'Connor had absolutely no qualms about talking Mike McCarthy back into the Kerry fold in the 00's and it worked a treat.

Similarly, the Dubs have Mannion and McCaffrey back in the fold, not to mention a certain Mr Cluxton.

I know each situation is different, and I don't think we'll see either MacNiallais or Murphy in a Donegal jersey again. But if something changed, and the lads were up for it, then it would be ludicrous not to involve them because they're still probably in the top 5 players in the county - Murphy certainly."
100%. Both in top 5

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1208 - 19/04/2023 17:09:49    2471826

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Replying To Tirchonailabu56:  "Agree with your point there is a lack of forwards in the panel but I think Donegal are as good as anyone in the Half forward and 3rd midfielder options.

It's the inside scoring forwards that Donegal don't seem to have enough off in the panel. I don't accept the argument there is a lack of county standard inside forwards playing club football at the moment. I would hope O'Rourke has a look at the inside forwards playing club football at all 4 Divisions and call up 5 or 6 and Blood 3 or 4 to start building for next year."
Who? What players ?

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1208 - 19/04/2023 19:21:58    2471861

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Hughie is the new Gooch.

StockholmGael (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 19/04/2023 21:09:20    2471875

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Replying To rorysboys:  "I'm asking you again where's all this great talent that bonner held back. You were on about winning all irelands last year. Big change in your attitude now. It's time you admit that you just don't know much about football. No doubt you'll be back in your arm chair this Sunday.lol."
The fact is we wasted years with murphy, mcbrearty and mchugh and the rest at there peak. Thats down to all the management after 2014 who failed to get the best out of our players.
Its also down to bonner in his second spell in charge.
The fact is any management would struggle with the year Donegal football had.
Murphy stepping away, not because the previous management didn't get another year, but because of the mess made of appointing a new manager.
Mcbrearty injury, mchugh injury, the 3 o'donnells not playing this year. Thompson and langan only recently back from injury along with others.

I feel sorry for players like mchugh and others who missed out on fulfilling there real potential, through no fault of their own but due to mismanagement and jobs for the boys attitude.

Are you seriously telling me them players were not capable of reaching minimum an All Ireland semi final since 2014?

I have belief in Donegal football and prefer to aim for the sky.
I always believed we are as good as anyone and are a sleeping giant awaiting to be awoken.
Hopefully with all the mistakes this year we finally get our shop in order and start reaching our full potential in a consistent manner and put the pieces together so that these mistakes never happen again.
You would have to have played the game rorysboys in order to have the belief that I have in Donegal football.
As you have not played the game, you are at a disadvantage already in your knowledge of Donegal gaa.
Good luck to the boys on sunday, win, lose or draw, I thank you for you efford and commitment.
Through not fault of any player its been a turbulent year for Donegal football.
Every administrator and personnel involved need to look themselves in the mirror and ask themselves are they in it for the betterment of Donegal football or there own personal gain.
If its the latter please do the right thing and walk away.

The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 711 - 20/04/2023 08:45:08    2471890

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Interseting article from O'Rourke in the paper this morning. Am I correct in that he is saying that Paddy Carr decided that Aidan and Paddy Bradley should stay and continue on with the work they were doing. What was the county board's role in this? Or does the man that was getting the boot after 6 games decides what is best moving forward. A bit confused by this article.

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 748 - 20/04/2023 11:05:09    2471915

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Replying To The keeper:  "The fact is we wasted years with murphy, mcbrearty and mchugh and the rest at there peak. Thats down to all the management after 2014 who failed to get the best out of our players.
Its also down to bonner in his second spell in charge.
The fact is any management would struggle with the year Donegal football had.
Murphy stepping away, not because the previous management didn't get another year, but because of the mess made of appointing a new manager.
Mcbrearty injury, mchugh injury, the 3 o'donnells not playing this year. Thompson and langan only recently back from injury along with others.

I feel sorry for players like mchugh and others who missed out on fulfilling there real potential, through no fault of their own but due to mismanagement and jobs for the boys attitude.

Are you seriously telling me them players were not capable of reaching minimum an All Ireland semi final since 2014?

I have belief in Donegal football and prefer to aim for the sky.
I always believed we are as good as anyone and are a sleeping giant awaiting to be awoken.
Hopefully with all the mistakes this year we finally get our shop in order and start reaching our full potential in a consistent manner and put the pieces together so that these mistakes never happen again.
You would have to have played the game rorysboys in order to have the belief that I have in Donegal football.
As you have not played the game, you are at a disadvantage already in your knowledge of Donegal gaa.
Good luck to the boys on sunday, win, lose or draw, I thank you for you efford and commitment.
Through not fault of any player its been a turbulent year for Donegal football.
Every administrator and personnel involved need to look themselves in the mirror and ask themselves are they in it for the betterment of Donegal football or there own personal gain.
If its the latter please do the right thing and walk away."
Another bitter post against bonner. You wanted change you got it and you're still not happy. You waffle on about this great talent we have but you still can't name anybody. Come on now why do you think the o Donnells and Murphy are not playing this year.. we had a brilliant chance with a young Murphy and Mc brearty in 2014 to win the all Ireland but team selection on the day ruined that chance. . Still my most disappointing day following donegal.. no word of that lad. Lol

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2616 - 20/04/2023 11:27:05    2471925

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Replying To ryan:  "Interseting article from O'Rourke in the paper this morning. Am I correct in that he is saying that Paddy Carr decided that Aidan and Paddy Bradley should stay and continue on with the work they were doing. What was the county board's role in this? Or does the man that was getting the boot after 6 games decides what is best moving forward. A bit confused by this article."
I'd be very sceptical about anything anyone says about that whole saga. We'll probably never know the ins and outs of what went on

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 636 - 20/04/2023 12:07:36    2471936

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Replying To greenfan:  "You can't just 'bring people back'. They have to want to play inter-county. MacNiallais is probably fresh looking because he is free from the burden of playing inter county football and all the pressure, training and work that goes with that. He had some tough times in the past in his personal life and probably stepped away for his own good and probably because he wants to play football, not be part of a 15 man defensive setup which is what most modern teams have become. Its great to hear that he is rejuvenated and enjoying football again, good luck to him, he'll be some asset to his club if he's playing well. There's more important things in life than playing for your county."
Maybe in the future that rejuvenation could be brought into the county set up and hopefully trickle down to the clubs. Play with a bit of joy and have an environment players want to be involved in. Play a system that allows the talented players to flourish rather than being reduced to cogs the machine. Seeing us play long balls onto Hugh McFadden in the league only made me think of how Murphy was blackguarded by successive managers. As brolly said that time..."using the prize bull to plough the field".

himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 20/04/2023 13:52:53    2471970

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Heard O'Rourke and Daire O'Baoill interviewed. They are speaking up Donegals chances saying they've had a great few weeks which is quite unusual for a team pre C'ship to say. Bookies still has us favourites.
Have decided to travel to Newry to support but most people I know are not going. Genuinely no idea what to expect.

PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 154 - 20/04/2023 20:45:15    2472042

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