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Replying To jacktheboy:  "Donegal want to copy what Mayo did with Aiden O Shea, put Hugh McFadden in the square and leave him there for full
game, Hugh hasnt the legs for out field play anymore just like Murphy for the last few years. He is a good fielder and can score a few. Leave him at full forward and that keeps goalkeeper full back and sweeper back in their own half and leave room for Donegal to move ball forward quickly with the few long balls into Hugh."
Hugh has been a brilliant servant for Donegal always gives a 100 per cent. Done well inside last night but my fear against the better teams is well become to predictable and teams will be waiting for the long ball. My big fear this morning is getting relegated if we do we're in dangerous territory next year. We have to win our last two games simple as. Mayo and Roscommon are probably safe and possibly don't want to meet in a league final because they play each other in c ship the week after the final. This hopefully should have us a fighting chance because if we have to meet a full mayo team we're doomed. Bar Curran we're not finding any new lads it's the same squad as last year.. back to my regular gripe our support very poor again last night. Armagh are a credit real passionate fans I was told last night that they took 7000 to Tralee last week the recession cudnt have hit up north yet.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2389 - 05/03/2023 10:10:13    2461876

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "Donegal want to copy what Mayo did with Aiden O Shea, put Hugh McFadden in the square and leave him there for full
game, Hugh hasnt the legs for out field play anymore just like Murphy for the last few years. He is a good fielder and can score a few. Leave him at full forward and that keeps goalkeeper full back and sweeper back in their own half and leave room for Donegal to move ball forward quickly with the few long balls into Hugh."
I was surprised they didn't try kane Barrett in there last night. He's a big man, and he wins a lot of marks. We need more options inside cause Gallen and Jamie Brennan were quiet.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 460 - 05/03/2023 10:14:34    2461878

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Apparently it's the way the game is now, but it's pure nonsense that our number 6 spends most of the game playing like a wing forward. Armagh just left him free cause they knew he's not gonna be a scoring threat , meaning they could keep an extra defender in the middle. We need our number 6 to hold the middle, and help plug that gaping hole that teams keep running thru. And then, we have caolan mcgonagle back marking Rian O'Neil at a stage, meaning we're missing his driving runs from midfield. Some strange stuff going on. Kane Barrett on the bench and not taken on when we were crying out for an inside forward with gallen and brennan having quiet games.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 460 - 05/03/2023 10:22:06    2461879

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Replying To greenfan:  "Apparently it's the way the game is now, but it's pure nonsense that our number 6 spends most of the game playing like a wing forward. Armagh just left him free cause they knew he's not gonna be a scoring threat , meaning they could keep an extra defender in the middle. We need our number 6 to hold the middle, and help plug that gaping hole that teams keep running thru. And then, we have caolan mcgonagle back marking Rian O'Neil at a stage, meaning we're missing his driving runs from midfield. Some strange stuff going on. Kane Barrett on the bench and not taken on when we were crying out for an inside forward with gallen and brennan having quiet games."
Clearly Kane is not Abel.

themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 130 - 05/03/2023 11:00:59    2461892

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Couldn't fault the team for effort and endevour lastnight but just like Galway they were toothless up front.

They seemed to be afraid to take on their men last night. Granted Armagh are overall a more physical team but even our physical players were at it, going backwards and sideways afraid to commit.

Our only hope is a Roscommon win or draw today which would leave both teams safe and perhaps not put as much into their final games against Donegal.

This is a new set up that has lost their two most influential leaders of the last 10+ years, I think we need to remember that and have patience.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 795 - 05/03/2023 11:06:16    2461893

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Couldn't fault the team for effort and endevour lastnight but just like Galway they were toothless up front.

They seemed to be afraid to take on their men last night. Granted Armagh are overall a more physical team but even our physical players were at it, going backwards and sideways afraid to commit.

Our only hope is a Roscommon win or draw today which would leave both teams safe and perhaps not put as much into their final games against Donegal.

This is a new set up that has lost their two most influential leaders of the last 10+ years, I think we need to remember that and have patience."
I wudnt agree with hoping for a Roscommon win, as I said before if mayo come to ballybofey looking for points we're in trouble. I would rather see mayo winning today.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2389 - 05/03/2023 11:25:58    2461897

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McFadden had a very intense fitness test before the game so obviously he is not 100% fit. It was also noticeable that the returnees viz Langan,Gallen,EoghanBan and Mogan were well below par.They are probably still catching up and probably needed more recovery time after the exertions of last week.There are some good signs with regard to the effort and intensity of the team but we seem to have lost our creativity in attack.We don't seem to have the power or skill to break the lines against a blanket defence which is the case against every team these days.We seem to be patient and probe for a while and then lose the patience and go for shots that are not on or hurried.We need to be either brave and try and break the lines or be patient for as long as it takes to get a proper chance.I agree with Ror on the support it was really poor last night.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 05/03/2023 11:31:54    2461898

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Replying To gunman:  "McFadden had a very intense fitness test before the game so obviously he is not 100% fit. It was also noticeable that the returnees viz Langan,Gallen,EoghanBan and Mogan were well below par.They are probably still catching up and probably needed more recovery time after the exertions of last week.There are some good signs with regard to the effort and intensity of the team but we seem to have lost our creativity in attack.We don't seem to have the power or skill to break the lines against a blanket defence which is the case against every team these days.We seem to be patient and probe for a while and then lose the patience and go for shots that are not on or hurried.We need to be either brave and try and break the lines or be patient for as long as it takes to get a proper chance.I agree with Ror on the support it was really poor last night."
I agree, our support last night was very poor. In fact, I'd say it was the difference in some of the refereeing decisions last night. He was quite poor.

On the point of progress, yes, we are doing some things right. However, we are are not using our big mobile men like McGonagle, Langan, Jason to punch holes in opposition defences. I don't know when I last saw that familiar big long stride of Caolan McGonagle moving forward at pace, coupled with his ability to drop the shoulder and go by men. Jason is going sideways and backwash. Those men have much more to offer than we are currently seeing.

We are not keeping the opposition defences honest. A bit like rugby, that you have to put opposition teams on the back foot with the threat of the long high ball. We tried it in the 2nd half yesterday, and it worked. We need to do more of it. Basically, if we do a bit more of A, it makes more room for B.

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 581 - 05/03/2023 12:58:05    2461910

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Replying To themaddog:  "Clearly Kane is not Abel."
Good one lol, looks like we will regret not playing Galway in Ballybofey, done ok last night but I always felt Armagh would win it, the confidence is gone out of us a bit.
think Mayo will destroy us the way they are playing this year, we might beat the Rossies away if they are focused on Championship, either way it will be hard to avoid the drop now.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2737 - 05/03/2023 13:00:07    2461912

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Couldn't fault the team for effort and endevour lastnight but just like Galway they were toothless up front.

They seemed to be afraid to take on their men last night. Granted Armagh are overall a more physical team but even our physical players were at it, going backwards and sideways afraid to commit.

Our only hope is a Roscommon win or draw today which would leave both teams safe and perhaps not put as much into their final games against Donegal.

This is a new set up that has lost their two most influential leaders of the last 10+ years, I think we need to remember that and have patience."
The first free we got last night, can't rem who took it but he just done a 180 and kicked the ball backways, that about sums up Donegal football for me in a microcosm.
We know the league doesn't really matter, a run through div 2 next season might do fellas no harm at all, I think we will be much better come Championship if we get fellas recovered and back to form, hope still lives.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2737 - 05/03/2023 13:17:43    2461913

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I noticed how the TG4 co commentator (Mark Harte I think) kept calling Donegal "Tir Chonaill". I understand that it is a historical name for the region but it isn't the official name of the county. That would be like calling Antrim Dal Riada. I wonder why Donegal don't change the name of the county if they are going to be referred to as Tyrchonaill anyway.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 220 - 05/03/2023 13:19:00    2461914

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "I noticed how the TG4 co commentator (Mark Harte I think) kept calling Donegal "Tir Chonaill". I understand that it is a historical name for the region but it isn't the official name of the county. That would be like calling Antrim Dal Riada. I wonder why Donegal don't change the name of the county if they are going to be referred to as Tyrchonaill anyway."
Hi PattyONeill: That's the least of our worries.

AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 647 - 05/03/2023 17:17:45    2462019

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Replying To AudiMan:  "Hi PattyONeill: That's the least of our worries."
Armagh missing quite a lot of players due to injury 8 in total a supporter told me last night is that accurate.

neutral (None) - Posts: 358 - 05/03/2023 19:24:51    2462070

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Alot has been made of the number of injuries we have had which have been significant, at this point if these missing players aren't fit to start in the league, when are they going to be fit, given that almost 75 percent of counties are going to be looking ahead to 2024 by the end of may. This is the reality of the new split season. I definitely think carr was dealt a difficult hand with the late appointment, but burke was a late appointment as well in Roscommon, and even today in defeat you could see plenty of green shoots in their second half performance. Alot of the team's failings of the last number of years remain, slow pace of game, failure to convert chances when it matters, kick outs being very good and very bad in the same match. I would expect us to beat down but am fearful of us getting our arses handed back to us by Armagh (who I don't think will win Ulster)

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 912 - 05/03/2023 19:44:18    2462080

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Was at the game last night and very impressed with Mc Cole, kept O Neill quiet and then moved onto their other attacker who was causing us issues. We're not shipping huge scores which is good but our attack is blunt. Credit to Hugh Mc Fadden, others look up to him on the team and he delivered inside last night. That's where he should be deployed . As others posted , he doesn't have the legs for out the field anymore. We only have Ryan MC Hugh to come back now , and that's us. Let's hope he makes a big difference!

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1136 - 05/03/2023 20:17:32    2462099

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Looking at the league table there and it makes grim reading for us, 3 points from 5 games played and a -18 scoring record. Lucky Paddy got that late winner against Kerry or it would look even worse.
Hope we have big support at home for the visit of Mayo, not going to be easy to get anything from that game so we'll need the home support big time.
I wonder if Ryan will be back for that game?

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2737 - 05/03/2023 20:45:07    2462119

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Replying To totalrecall:  "Alot has been made of the number of injuries we have had which have been significant, at this point if these missing players aren't fit to start in the league, when are they going to be fit, given that almost 75 percent of counties are going to be looking ahead to 2024 by the end of may. This is the reality of the new split season. I definitely think carr was dealt a difficult hand with the late appointment, but burke was a late appointment as well in Roscommon, and even today in defeat you could see plenty of green shoots in their second half performance. Alot of the team's failings of the last number of years remain, slow pace of game, failure to convert chances when it matters, kick outs being very good and very bad in the same match. I would expect us to beat down but am fearful of us getting our arses handed back to us by Armagh (who I don't think will win Ulster)"
I wouldn't be too surprised if Cavan shock Armagh in Breffni Park.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 05/03/2023 20:52:49    2462129

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Replying To TheRock2121:  "Was at the game last night and very impressed with Mc Cole, kept O Neill quiet and then moved onto their other attacker who was causing us issues. We're not shipping huge scores which is good but our attack is blunt. Credit to Hugh Mc Fadden, others look up to him on the team and he delivered inside last night. That's where he should be deployed . As others posted , he doesn't have the legs for out the field anymore. We only have Ryan MC Hugh to come back now , and that's us. Let's hope he makes a big difference!"
Did you not see McFadden being given a rigorous fitness test on his own while the rest were warming up.He was obviously not deemed fit enough to start.A fully fit McHugh would make a huge difference but we have lost a lot of point scoring being minus Murphy,McBrearty and Niall O'Donnell.What I have noticed this year is that every team seems to have tightened up defensively getting big numbers back.For a couple of years there football seemed to be opening up a bit but I can see that changing this year.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 05/03/2023 21:06:18    2462137

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All is Niall O' Donnell gone from the panel or is he injured?

IN_THRU (Donegal) - Posts: 23 - 06/03/2023 07:32:35    2462169

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "I noticed how the TG4 co commentator (Mark Harte I think) kept calling Donegal "Tir Chonaill". I understand that it is a historical name for the region but it isn't the official name of the county. That would be like calling Antrim Dal Riada. I wonder why Donegal don't change the name of the county if they are going to be referred to as Tyrchonaill anyway."
Sometimes hear a commentator calling the players "na Conallaigh" as well although I don't think many of us are Cineál Conaill any more. We were Tír Chonaill up to 1927 I think it was. Changed to Donegal as the historic territory of Tír Chonaill didn't cover the same area. It's no big deal to me and sure Tyrone get referred to as the men of O'Neill the odd time. Are you bringing it up because the city of Derry was in Tír Chonaill at one point? ;-)

On to the match and I don't think there can be many arguments with the result but dhia sabháil that ref was absolutely horrific. And for someone who was just "being strict" he conveniently missed an awful lot of tiny infringements that a strict ref would be picking up otherwise. It's infuriating watching a match like that, find myself just annoyed at the ref at the whole time and not picking up on our play.

I think there's no doubt though we're a poor attacking outfit this year. You would hope that a fully fit squad would improve the scoring but as things stand we will not score anywhere near enough to bother most teams. Contrary to folks constantly pointing out about our defenders in the county, I'm more worried about the attacking play even though the consensus would be that that's where the stronger talent lies. And going back a few years I've always felt we were in most of the games where we were knocked out but missed too many shots. The Ulster final last year in spite of how that game played out, we still got enough shots away against that Derry defence to win it, but our accuracy was poor under pressure.

CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 94 - 06/03/2023 09:27:28    2462181

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