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A problem I see now for picking county teams is we are overlooking players who don't go to college. It's great to see the county board having links with ATU(LYIT) in Letterkenny but I think good players who don't go to college are getting overlooked and slipping through the net, if you look at the u20's most of them were college players who have an advantage over players who aren't at college when the squads are being assembled because they are playing college football when the club season is over. There are definitely good players out there not getting a chance. Examples like lads who do apprenticeships or who work in construction or farming or just want to get a job after leaving secondary school. Some families just can't afford college, it feels like the inter county game is getting a bit elitist and the less well off have less chance of making it. Down through the years, some of our best players have been men who did physical work for a living.
greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 471 - 08/07/2022 11:20:40 2430440 Link 1 |
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There were reports on here from the Ulster final that apparently Murphy was ignoring the instructions from Bonner and decided to stay out round the midfield /sweeper role himself. whether you believe that or not is up to you, The manager has to be the boss, and with that comes responsibility for team selection and performance, after the disaster of the last few years I don't see how Bonner has any authority left, Bonner is a lame duck manager to borrow a phrase from US politics. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 08/07/2022 11:55:18 2430454 Link 0 |
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A problem I see now for picking county teams is we are overlooking players who don't go to college. It's great to see the county board having links with ATU(LYIT) in Letterkenny but I think good players who don't go to college are getting overlooked and slipping through the net, if you look at the u20's most of them were college players who have an advantage over players who aren't at college when the squads are being assembled because they are playing college football when the club season is over. There are definitely good players out there not getting a chance. Examples like lads who do apprenticeships or who work in construction or farming or just want to get a job after leaving secondary school. Some families just can't afford college, it feels like the inter county game is getting a bit elitist and the less well off have less chance of making it. Down through the years, some of our best players have been men who did physical work for a living. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1114 - 08/07/2022 12:07:25 2430462 Link 0 |
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No expectations will be to build the team to get back competing with the top teams. Getting the team physical fit and stronger to compete with the top teams. Getting them mentally strong. The same job he had to do in 11 after successive manager's failed to get the best out of players. Funny thing is our current manager was one of them failed manager's back then also. And mcguinness has a young family, so simply has not got the time. And certainly doesn't need to prove he is a real gaa man to someone like you. The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 687 - 08/07/2022 15:16:47 2430512 Link 0 |
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Stop making excuses sure he was thinking of helping out down last year. Your such a backtracker. Expectations are winning Ulster and getting to a all Ireland semi final. You say we're talented so let's be seeing it. No excuses. If you rule out every manager with a young family they'll not be many candidates. Bonner had a family but never complained a real Donegal legend.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 08/07/2022 15:35:23 2430515 Link 0 |
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Sure why would he complain? He hardly did it for free. Still hadn't the guts to face the media. tidytownman (Donegal) - Posts: 295 - 08/07/2022 15:49:49 2430522 Link 1 |
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Only man making excuses is yourself, constant excuses for the management team. Covid, injuries, not enough time, players getting sent off, players are not good enough. Thankfully Donegal supporter's have realised that after all the excuses, its not the players but the management that held Donegal back. I predicted when the manager got the job, that it was a mistake and a step back. The last 5 years have proven me correct. And there is a massive difference in helping out a team and actually taking over a team. Now hopefully my sources are correct and he will step away. As the new management team have a big job to do, 5 years falling behind the big teams under our current Management team. I have nothing personal against Bonner, he has put in a massive amount of time to Donegal football, and deserves credit for his efforts and commitment. At the end of the day, its not his fault he has not got the quality's of a real top manager. Its like putting in a VW Bora into a F1 race and expecting it to win. Very few have that ability, mcguinness, harte, boylan, gavin are just a few that had the X factor. The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 687 - 08/07/2022 19:08:12 2430555 Link 2 |
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You do love Mc Guinness. It's not players but management that held Donegal back. What excuse will you have next year when you can't blame bonner. Wake up lad we're not good enough go to games and you'll realise it. Too much television lad is not good for the eyes. Surely Mc Guinness will apply and be our next manager but he won't have Rory and Murphy to help him this time. Lol.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 08/07/2022 21:58:35 2430580 Link 0 |
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You can't be in the know if you still don't know, why nobody spoke to the media. Come on lad now
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 08/07/2022 22:00:20 2430581 Link 0 |
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Listen son, I'm a club man 1st and foremost. Always have been, always will be. I'd have the Dr Maguire on the bridge every day of the week ahead of the Sam Maguire and I make zero apologies for that. Your obsession with NC and Glenties is unhealthy and childish. You're fond enough of telling everyone to get a life but literally never leave this forum. Now go out today and support your club, that's if you even support one.
tidytownman (Donegal) - Posts: 295 - 09/07/2022 08:52:29 2430594 Link 3 |
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+ 1…………….
eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1595 - 09/07/2022 12:12:01 2430635 Link 0 |
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Listen lad I have nothing against glenties. I have never anything against your club as a matter of fact I worked with a lot of glenties people and count a lot of them as good friends. Do you seem to think the keeper( glenties person) is 100 percent right in every thing he says. I never see you question him when he's on a personal crusade against bonner. Is it ok for him to belittle the efforts of a great gaa man. Do you honestly think management wanted the year to end the way it did. . With some of the comments that fool has come out with he lets the good name of n c down..
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 09/07/2022 12:48:36 2430644 Link 0 |
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I heard from a very good source that there's an announcement imminent on the management position. Watch this space.?? rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1534 - 24/06/2022 12:25:47 All we know is that you said an announcement was 'imminent, which was over a fortnight ago. Sounds like your 'sources' are taking a hand of you. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 801 - 09/07/2022 12:50:35 2430645 Link 0 |
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Everybody knows bonners decision, it's been out this last two weeks. What's the big deal. The public announcement won't be out till after county board meeting. Any more info you need. Don't hesitate to ask I don't hide or never will.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 09/07/2022 13:10:17 2430649 Link 0 |
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What is the announcement then?? Fill the rest of us in. Is he staying or going?
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 801 - 09/07/2022 14:07:50 2430658 Link 0 |
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A competitive club scene probably helps the county team alright; but a minor downside is that it actually is a hindrance for Tyrone club teams in the Ulster Club. It's such a battle to win the county that teams are spent when they win it; and also they simply don't care as much (too happy to have won the county - the attitude that everything else is a mere bonus); and finally any team needs a run at the provincials. I remember Kilcoo guys saying how, at the start of their year, they set themselves a target of winning the Ulster and the All Ireland! But if you tried that ambitious crack in a Tyrone club, you'd be shouted down for "losing focus" and for being an idiot - it would be seen as pie-in-the-sky thinking / unlucky, to chat about that before winning the county. So what happens in Tyrone is a newbie team, very inexperienced in provincial terms, who has not paced themselves or timed their training for a provincial run, emerges, unprepared, after a heavy bout of celebrations, blinking in the headlights, and gets turned over by a grimly-determined team for another county, often a team who more or less expects to win their county and who, if you're like Cross or Derrygonnelly, more or less expects to win their county and therefore doesn't rate it as highly as any Tyrone club would. To win the county in Tyrone, you have to play out of your skin, and to be lucky also. Until Tyrone becomes a county where one or at most 2 teams generally are dominant (like Armagh, or Down), our clubs are unlikely ever to do much outside the county, unless by accident. Bonner would have a lot of respect outside Donegal; seems like a decent guy, bit surprising to see how much flak he's taking here. I agree though that (thankfully for the rest of us), Murphy has often been wasted, trying to do everything instead of requiring others to put in the defensive hard yards and deploy the big man as a skilled wrecking ball in a score getting position. Personally speaking, it would be good to see him get another All Ireland. points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 239 - 09/07/2022 14:24:27 2430662 Link 1 |
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Another tactical masterclass from Rory Gallagher......who must be cursing his luck that their weren't two tactical geniuses like rochford and Bonner in charge of the tribesmen. totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 916 - 09/07/2022 20:18:50 2430841 Link 2 |
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Good players win big games. As comer showed tonight. Step over the white line and that's where games are win. Sure a lot of Galway followers wanted Joyce gone after last year's defeat to mayo. . He's a hero now. You keyboard warriors are a special breed. Well done Rory on a great year ..
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 09/07/2022 20:51:13 2430873 Link 0 |
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A problem I see now for picking county teams is we are overlooking players who don't go to college. It's great to see the county board having links with ATU(LYIT) in Letterkenny but I think good players who don't go to college are getting overlooked and slipping through the net, if you look at the u20's most of them were college players who have an advantage over players who aren't at college when the squads are being assembled because they are playing college football when the club season is over. There are definitely good players out there not getting a chance. Examples like lads who do apprenticeships or who work in construction or farming or just want to get a job after leaving secondary school. Some families just can't afford college, it feels like the inter county game is getting a bit elitist and the less well off have less chance of making it. Down through the years, some of our best players have been men who did physical work for a living."]I'm a bit sceptical about the link. While its good to keep players in the county its just as beneficial to play with players from other counties. What I seen from LYIT was a caricature of the underage teams and the senior side. Any decent management set up wouldn't be so short sighted to ignore players not in college.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 09/07/2022 21:00:14 2430879 Link 0 |
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Bit rich you calling anyone a keyboard warrior...I follow Donegal length and breadth of Ireland....have followed them for more than 30 years.....but the forums self appointed sanctimonious poster sticks his head above the parapet yet again to dish anyone who dares criticism mgt..... irrespective of who has been in charge, Bonner has had his run, owes Donegal nothing but it's time to move on. Nothing personal against him just think he's tactically inept and rochford too. As for Mr Gallagher he was equally inept during his tenure whether it was with the u21s or seniors we left a few titles behind because he is a one trick pony..... Derry are where they are because in the last 8 years they have contested 6 minor finals winning 3 and won an Ireland in 2020 and contested all Ireland semi finals as well. None of the national or local pundits have ever referred to this. He finally won ulster this year because he was aided and abetted by Donegal.
totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 916 - 09/07/2022 21:26:31 2430900 Link 3 |