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There is another factor to Leitrim's performances. We always play a lot better in Carrick than away. Carrick is worth 6 points headstart to us.
And of course there is another old familiar Leitrim trait. When all hope of promotion is gone.... suddenly all logic goes out the window and they pull a big performance out of nowhere.. when its no good to them and defeat a big team.

Grey_Wolf (Leitrim) - Posts: 235 - 08/03/2023 16:50:35    2462840

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Can't see either how Wicklow beating Leitrim is a 'shock'???

We've been bedfellows with Wicklow, Waterford, and Carlow for what seems like decades apart from the occasional time one of us makes a bolt to Division 3 before deciding (very quickly) they preferred the familiar environs of Division 4.

In that time - I would say home win percentage among the quartet is well over 66%.

Solo_Run (Leitrim) - Posts: 209 - 08/03/2023 18:34:38    2462868

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A different topic but seeing as Inter-County have a week off.

Can I be the first to say its a disgrace that the County Board have not released a Master Fixtures Plan yet.
It is utter contempt for the club player who make up a majority of the members of Leitrim Gaa. We have a small number of clubs and competitions therefore it is not difficult to organise. How hard would it be to release dates and fixtures for the Club League even and then dates for the Club championship. Would give managers and players a chance to plan both football and their actual lives.

A shield competition is meant to start in two weeks yet there are no fixtures available. There are a lot of things we can't control in Leitrim: Population, the economy, emigration etc. but with things like this the County Boards are showcasing why Leitrim Gaa will always be the 'butt of jokes'. Shambolic.

Leitrim1234 (Leitrim) - Posts: 297 - 09/03/2023 11:54:17    2462946

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Replying To Leitrim1234:  "A different topic but seeing as Inter-County have a week off.

Can I be the first to say its a disgrace that the County Board have not released a Master Fixtures Plan yet.
It is utter contempt for the club player who make up a majority of the members of Leitrim Gaa. We have a small number of clubs and competitions therefore it is not difficult to organise. How hard would it be to release dates and fixtures for the Club League even and then dates for the Club championship. Would give managers and players a chance to plan both football and their actual lives.

A shield competition is meant to start in two weeks yet there are no fixtures available. There are a lot of things we can't control in Leitrim: Population, the economy, emigration etc. but with things like this the County Boards are showcasing why Leitrim Gaa will always be the 'butt of jokes'. Shambolic."
Why are they even running the shield competition? It is a waste of time and very very meaningless. Does anyone remember who won it last year or who even cares? Can they not just play the leagues like other counties?? we have been doing the same thing year after year and it has not got us too far yet- holding back league games because of county team- how well has that worked over the years? we have been doing it now for donkeys years and we are still stuck in division four- play the games and if a county lad gets injured so be it. Has he not as much chance of getting injured at county training where the inhouse games should be rigorous anyway?

If a county manager doesn't want his players playing club games for fear of injury, then he needs to ask himself is his training good and vigorous enough because if it is the player would have as good a chance getting injured there? Is it mirroring the actual game and if not why not?? Maybe that is why we are stuck where we are for as long as we are. We are "protecting" our players by preventing them from playing games- it is an absolute joke. No wonder half our team can't kick or pass a ball straight with good foot never mind the weak one. Time someone with a bit of foresight told this to the manager.

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 09/03/2023 12:56:16    2462960

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Replying To Leitrimdivide:  "Why are they even running the shield competition? It is a waste of time and very very meaningless. Does anyone remember who won it last year or who even cares? Can they not just play the leagues like other counties?? we have been doing the same thing year after year and it has not got us too far yet- holding back league games because of county team- how well has that worked over the years? we have been doing it now for donkeys years and we are still stuck in division four- play the games and if a county lad gets injured so be it. Has he not as much chance of getting injured at county training where the inhouse games should be rigorous anyway?

If a county manager doesn't want his players playing club games for fear of injury, then he needs to ask himself is his training good and vigorous enough because if it is the player would have as good a chance getting injured there? Is it mirroring the actual game and if not why not?? Maybe that is why we are stuck where we are for as long as we are. We are "protecting" our players by preventing them from playing games- it is an absolute joke. No wonder half our team can't kick or pass a ball straight with good foot never mind the weak one. Time someone with a bit of foresight told this to the manager."
Good post. They will release fixtures around St Patrick's Day/ the week before league starts, when players had made other plans for the next month or two. usual 2 finger to club players. But when county is finished in June it is all about them

gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 457 - 09/03/2023 16:56:57    2463041

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Replying To Solo_Run:  "Can't see either how Wicklow beating Leitrim is a 'shock'???

We've been bedfellows with Wicklow, Waterford, and Carlow for what seems like decades apart from the occasional time one of us makes a bolt to Division 3 before deciding (very quickly) they preferred the familiar environs of Division 4.

In that time - I would say home win percentage among the quartet is well over 66%."
Full marks for this analysis, however tongue in cheek it might be . Occasionally "stronger" teams find themselves in Div 4 but waste no time in getting back to their more familiar environment of Div 2. Some teams such as Tipp, Clare and Limerick have broken out of the yo yo of 3 and 4 - for now, and are making varying degrees of a mark in the upper divisions. But they are the more recent exceptions. Certainly my own county, Wicklow, Wexford, Carlow, Waterford and London seem to prefer whatever dubious comforts Div 4 offers.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 990 - 09/03/2023 18:16:42    2463065

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Replying To Leitrim1234:  "A different topic but seeing as Inter-County have a week off.

Can I be the first to say its a disgrace that the County Board have not released a Master Fixtures Plan yet.
It is utter contempt for the club player who make up a majority of the members of Leitrim Gaa. We have a small number of clubs and competitions therefore it is not difficult to organise. How hard would it be to release dates and fixtures for the Club League even and then dates for the Club championship. Would give managers and players a chance to plan both football and their actual lives.

A shield competition is meant to start in two weeks yet there are no fixtures available. There are a lot of things we can't control in Leitrim: Population, the economy, emigration etc. but with things like this the County Boards are showcasing why Leitrim Gaa will always be the 'butt of jokes'. Shambolic."
Its shocking, complete disregard for clubs and club players.
How can lads or management plan for the year ahead.
The whole board and set up needs a shake up

sparkie (Leitrim) - Posts: 60 - 09/03/2023 19:31:08    2463074

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Replying To sparkie:  "Its shocking, complete disregard for clubs and club players.
How can lads or management plan for the year ahead.
The whole board and set up needs a shake up"
Ye're not alone, the Sligo county board are just as inept. Had a good man in a few years ago on the Fixtures but because he done a decent job and put champo games on at obvious times and venues they got rid of him. They have kept most of his improvements in fairness but as you say nearly paddies and no sign of fixtures.

sligosham (Sligo) - Posts: 23 - 10/03/2023 07:19:03    2463101

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Replying To sligosham:  "Ye're not alone, the Sligo county board are just as inept. Had a good man in a few years ago on the Fixtures but because he done a decent job and put champo games on at obvious times and venues they got rid of him. They have kept most of his improvements in fairness but as you say nearly paddies and no sign of fixtures."
Roscommon have been playing cup games since last month. perchance that is why they are so far ahead of both of us as county?
Slightly better population and resources but they are probably also a bit more organized and ambitious.
Kills me to admit it but we should look at what they do right, they may never win an all Ireland but punch far higher that we ever will, whatever about Sligo

gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 457 - 10/03/2023 10:56:51    2463132

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very disappointing to see the clip going around on twitter about Conor Cox trying to get Matthew Ruane sent off last weekend. it is blatant diving and very poor sportsmanship. All true gaels should condemn this.

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 10/03/2023 11:22:57    2463143

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Replying To gaelsboy:  "Roscommon have been playing cup games since last month. perchance that is why they are so far ahead of both of us as county?
Slightly better population and resources but they are probably also a bit more organized and ambitious.
Kills me to admit it but we should look at what they do right, they may never win an all Ireland but punch far higher that we ever will, whatever about Sligo"
As you say I hate admitting it but you are spot on about Roscommon, I feel they have continually over achieved and are better organised than us, but more importantly their mentality is better. Roscommon would never fear playing the likes of Armagh, Derry, Cork etc we would be bet before the ball was thrown in!!

3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 294 - 10/03/2023 15:57:03    2463248

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Replying To 3rdmidfielder:  "As you say I hate admitting it but you are spot on about Roscommon, I feel they have continually over achieved and are better organised than us, but more importantly their mentality is better. Roscommon would never fear playing the likes of Armagh, Derry, Cork etc we would be bet before the ball was thrown in!!"
People have short memories. They were forced to get organised or Croke Park would still be holding on to the cheque book. And lets not forget the debacle of the Hyde Park pitch or the million euro debt from the mid noughties. Leitrim never went mad off the pitch... raised whatever funds we needed and have decent enough facilities all around the county. More could be done but no one went mad. On the pitch we have the age old socio economic problems of emigration and keeping lads interested in football. A bigger population will always help in that regard... more people and more time to commit to GAA. At the end of the day it's only 15 players you can put out and it's certainly not a level playing when it comes to getting those 15 on a pitch.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 12/03/2023 12:06:56    2463476

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Will anyone from Leitrim GAA be addressing the Senate when they are over in the States to try and drum up financial support for the thing?

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 13/03/2023 13:05:03    2463701

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I hear we have a great Minor team this year.

Not sure about our under 20's under the guidance of Benny Guckian. He will have his work cut out to land any silverware this year.

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 15/03/2023 11:23:15    2463993

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Replying To Square_B:  "People have short memories. They were forced to get organised or Croke Park would still be holding on to the cheque book. And lets not forget the debacle of the Hyde Park pitch or the million euro debt from the mid noughties. Leitrim never went mad off the pitch... raised whatever funds we needed and have decent enough facilities all around the county. More could be done but no one went mad. On the pitch we have the age old socio economic problems of emigration and keeping lads interested in football. A bigger population will always help in that regard... more people and more time to commit to GAA. At the end of the day it's only 15 players you can put out and it's certainly not a level playing when it comes to getting those 15 on a pitch."
Unfortunately having your finances in order does not equate to winning matches on the field. Ros CB may be a shambles in financial terms, but they definitely have their house in order when it comes to coaching, improving standards and punching above their weight on the field. Credit is due to Leitrim for having their own COE, which Roscommon don't have, but it doesn't automatically mean standards improve. The senior championship should be reduced to 8 teams to try and improve the standard of club football within the county. The lack of ambition shown by players on the fringes of the county team is another big problem. Young players seem to think they are entitled to game time and when they get dropped or don't get playing, they drop off the panel. Look at the squad now, there are a number of young players that should be on it, but are not for various reasons. Until there is a big attitude change, Leitrim will stay in Div 4 unfortunately. #snowflakegeneration

TaytoFoley (Leitrim) - Posts: 83 - 15/03/2023 11:32:39    2463995

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Replying To TaytoFoley:  "Unfortunately having your finances in order does not equate to winning matches on the field. Ros CB may be a shambles in financial terms, but they definitely have their house in order when it comes to coaching, improving standards and punching above their weight on the field. Credit is due to Leitrim for having their own COE, which Roscommon don't have, but it doesn't automatically mean standards improve. The senior championship should be reduced to 8 teams to try and improve the standard of club football within the county. The lack of ambition shown by players on the fringes of the county team is another big problem. Young players seem to think they are entitled to game time and when they get dropped or don't get playing, they drop off the panel. Look at the squad now, there are a number of young players that should be on it, but are not for various reasons. Until there is a big attitude change, Leitrim will stay in Div 4 unfortunately. #snowflakegeneration"
It is easy to have coaching in place, improving standards etc when Croke Park bail you out. Our county board have kept in with the finances and did not need to hand over the cheque book etc to Croke Park.

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 15/03/2023 12:24:41    2464010

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Have any of our injured players returned this week,we could badly do with Ryan O Rourke and Tom Prior for Sunday.

lecture250 (Leitrim) - Posts: 119 - 15/03/2023 15:38:20    2464065

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In 2019 under Terry Hyland Leitrim gained promotion which included a 13 point win against Wexford, beat Wicklow by 4 in Aughrim and were competitive against Derry in the league final in Croke Park.

Now under Andy Moran into his 2nd season they have lost to both Wicklow and Wexford by a bit to spare and with Laois, Sligo to play its unlikely promoted will be gained this year instead could well finish 5th in the table. And yet this current management seem to be getting a lot of praise in national media for the "improvement" they have brought which is a bit puzzling

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 15/03/2023 15:53:42    2464069

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Replying To TaytoFoley:  "Unfortunately having your finances in order does not equate to winning matches on the field. Ros CB may be a shambles in financial terms, but they definitely have their house in order when it comes to coaching, improving standards and punching above their weight on the field. Credit is due to Leitrim for having their own COE, which Roscommon don't have, but it doesn't automatically mean standards improve. The senior championship should be reduced to 8 teams to try and improve the standard of club football within the county. The lack of ambition shown by players on the fringes of the county team is another big problem. Young players seem to think they are entitled to game time and when they get dropped or don't get playing, they drop off the panel. Look at the squad now, there are a number of young players that should be on it, but are not for various reasons. Until there is a big attitude change, Leitrim will stay in Div 4 unfortunately. #snowflakegeneration"
All very well and good but the reality is we have to work with some of these lads and understand why they drop off panels and so on. In a bigger county they wouldn't be missed as there's an equally decent lad waiting in the wings. And yes no doubt attidutes could improve and coaching could improve as well but that requires investment in people and in reality, money to do all that. As I've said in bigger counties, the issue may not be as critical as many hands lighten the load, fundraising opportunities are greater and at the end of the day you can only get 15 lads on the pitch. How you get them to the pitch will always be a problem in counties like Leitrim.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 15/03/2023 20:40:41    2464121

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Replying To Yondu:  "In 2019 under Terry Hyland Leitrim gained promotion which included a 13 point win against Wexford, beat Wicklow by 4 in Aughrim and were competitive against Derry in the league final in Croke Park.

Now under Andy Moran into his 2nd season they have lost to both Wicklow and Wexford by a bit to spare and with Laois, Sligo to play its unlikely promoted will be gained this year instead could well finish 5th in the table. And yet this current management seem to be getting a lot of praise in national media for the "improvement" they have brought which is a bit puzzling"
I never agreed with the appointment for various reasons and was slated at the time. I hate to say it but I'm being slowly proving right. I was prepared to give them a chance but to be honest if promotion isn't secured, I think it will be time for Moran & Solan to move on. I've always said that Hyland was unlucky with Covid and it unfortunately hampered the progress that was make in 2019. Promotion should have been secured last year as I'm still convinced that we were good enough to be promoted; it certainly was a missed opportunity for Moran and his management team. He'll not be in an asses roar of the Mayo job in the future that's for sure.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 15/03/2023 20:51:44    2464122

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