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Replying To Leitrimforliam: "Convinced may be coming on too strong. I am about 90% sure. I have one account.
Your writing style and patterns, as well as the usage of the same abbreviations, are quite similar to those of the Eslinchicken account. Also, the most of the issues you make are same or quite similar. That being said, I agree with much of what both accounts publish, and the Eslinchicken account postings are entertaining. You both have an unhealthy infatuation with Andy Moran. That being said, I wanted him to leave at the end of the year also. But he's gone now, so let's move on and focus on the future." God forbid two different posters would agree or post similar opinions. Imagine that! This is a forum in case you weren't aware... most of my posts are in response to the pure scutter I read here about how Andy Moran was such a great manager for Leitrim. It has to be called out as it's pure delusion.
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Replying To Leitrimforliam: "Convinced may be coming on too strong. I am about 90% sure. I have one account.
Your writing style and patterns, as well as the usage of the same abbreviations, are quite similar to those of the Eslinchicken account. Also, the most of the issues you make are same or quite similar. That being said, I agree with much of what both accounts publish, and the Eslinchicken account postings are entertaining. You both have an unhealthy infatuation with Andy Moran. That being said, I wanted him to leave at the end of the year also. But he's gone now, so let's move on and focus on the future." Some of their posts are less than 1 minute apart!
Maybe it's the mods fault? But alot of their posts follow each other.
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Replying To Leitrim2024: "Some of their posts are less than 1 minute apart!
Maybe it's the mods fault? But alot of their posts follow each other." Can we focus on the important issues at hand for Leitrim football and get behind Coach Graham please. This idle speculation will get us nowhere and is anathema to the thing.
eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 13/08/2024 09:11:10
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Replying To Square_B: "God forbid two different posters would agree or post similar opinions. Imagine that! This is a forum in case you weren't aware... most of my posts are in response to the pure scutter I read here about how Andy Moran was such a great manager for Leitrim. It has to be called out as it's pure delusion." As the old saying goes… "You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear "….
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Replying To Leitrim2024: "Some of their posts are less than 1 minute apart!
Maybe it's the mods fault? But alot of their posts follow each other." who cares
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Replying To Leitrim2024: "Some of their posts are less than 1 minute apart!
Maybe it's the mods fault? But alot of their posts follow each other." Such an insightful observation about someone who posts on a forum & has one account (i.e. Me). Can I sign up to your Ted talk?
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1017 - 13/08/2024 12:30:34
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I'm glad Fenagh avoided Mohill in the draw and can't get them in last round either. They should qualify now but it would have been unfair if they were not in top 6 and faced a relegation playoff just because they got unlucky being drawn against top 3 teams. Obviously luck plays a part in sport and the randomness of the draw can sometimes be interesting but overall I think it's unfair. 2025 championship is same format with 4 rounds and all 8 in one group of reduced number of 8.
I think 2 groups of 4 would be better but this would have teams playing less games. More games is probably better for players and for finances.
Maybe seeding like what is done in Junior A could make it fairer. 1st Seeds would be finalists, 2nd seeds would be losing semi finalists, 3rd seeds would be losing qtr finalists, 4th seeds would be promoted team and winner of relegation playoff. Still play 4 games in open group but you can only get 1 team from each seeding pot.
Pros and cons for all changes so it's always hard to know what's best and What is best for bigger clubs may not be best for smaller clubs. Any thoughts?
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Replying To b.o.b.: "I'm glad Fenagh avoided Mohill in the draw and can't get them in last round either. They should qualify now but it would have been unfair if they were not in top 6 and faced a relegation playoff just because they got unlucky being drawn against top 3 teams. Obviously luck plays a part in sport and the randomness of the draw can sometimes be interesting but overall I think it's unfair. 2025 championship is same format with 4 rounds and all 8 in one group of reduced number of 8.
I think 2 groups of 4 would be better but this would have teams playing less games. More games is probably better for players and for finances.
Maybe seeding like what is done in Junior A could make it fairer. 1st Seeds would be finalists, 2nd seeds would be losing semi finalists, 3rd seeds would be losing qtr finalists, 4th seeds would be promoted team and winner of relegation playoff. Still play 4 games in open group but you can only get 1 team from each seeding pot.
Pros and cons for all changes so it's always hard to know what's best and What is best for bigger clubs may not be best for smaller clubs. Any thoughts?" If Fenagh have designs on winning then they're going to have to beat the stronger teams at some stage. I recall St. Mary's being in a similar position a few years ago where they had to go to Ballinamore and win or they were in big trouble. Its the luck of the draw.
If fenagh failed to beat three stronger teams in the group stages then they clearly wouldn't be ready to win outright. It remains to be seen if they are even with this chance. I wouldn't take for granted that they'll beat Annaduff either!
If teams decide that they have to get fitter,smarter and more ruthless in order to avoid these scenarios then all the better. We're too soft in every sense because of previous incarnations of club structures. The more ruthless the better.
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Replying To ThePowerhouse: "If Fenagh have designs on winning then they're going to have to beat the stronger teams at some stage. I recall St. Mary's being in a similar position a few years ago where they had to go to Ballinamore and win or they were in big trouble. Its the luck of the draw.
If fenagh failed to beat three stronger teams in the group stages then they clearly wouldn't be ready to win outright. It remains to be seen if they are even with this chance. I wouldn't take for granted that they'll beat Annaduff either!
If teams decide that they have to get fitter,smarter and more ruthless in order to avoid these scenarios then all the better. We're too soft in every sense because of previous incarnations of club structures. The more ruthless the better." I think what his saying is it would be a pity to see a team like Fenagh out of the championship when u see teams that they would beat by 10 points could possibly make a semi and I do agree to what u are saying but it's not like they were well beaten well by either team ,they could of won them both
Redlad6 (Leitrim) - Posts: 30 - 13/08/2024 19:25:05
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Replying To Leitrimforliam: "I think there needs to be a rule brought in that referees can't ref a senior game if they are also a senior footballer." I can see how it might become a problem. We do, however, need fresh blood in the refereeing pool. Maybe they should be restricted to junior or underage games until their playing career is over!
Leitrim2024 (Leitrim) - Posts: 61 - 13/08/2024 19:27:29
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Replying To ThePowerhouse: "There are people on here who think that our relative success of the early 90s can be replicated simply by getting the "right man". Unfortunately it's clear that there have been plenty on various county boards who felt the same.
Blaming Andy Moran for what he had to work with is unfair. Do I think that he could have done a better job with what he had? Absolutely. I'd apportion more blame on the players however. I've said before that the lack of game intelligence is stark. These are grown men. They're not insecure 15 and 16 year olds.
The fact that they think they can achieve inter county success without proper s+c tells you all you need to know. The fact that a manager has to come in and start working on that tells you all you need to know about the problems we have from the ground up.
If you actually follow football in the county you can identify future inter county players from 10 or 11 years of age. Naturally some will develop late or not as you'd expect but generally the ones that are good at 10 or 11 will come through. Ben Guckian, Paul Honeyman, Darren Cox etc. have been talked about for 10 years. These players need to be identified and managed from early on. Being part of an "academy" that trains for 3 months before a championship is not a route to success either in the short or long term.
Coupled with being managed properly they also need better quality games within the county. If clubs dont want to amalgamate then the county board needs to set up regional teams where the players are playing with and against quality on a very regular basis. Our club football at underage level is a very poor standard. Use these teams to train our coaches. Ensure that they're not from the same clubs as the players thereby ensuring that loyalties to their own club is guarded against.
If you need an example of how poorly run we are at underage level then look no further than Thursday where Mohill bet Annaduff by 33 points in division 3 of the under 15 championship. How could a successful town team be allowed to compete in Division 3? There are loads of examples like this. What value are either team getting from these games. Are clubs sacrificing player development simply for the sake of a meaningless cup or the chance to parade around the parish yahooing out the window?
Our problems are many but easily fixed if the willingness is there. Therin lies the problem." mohil bet annaduff by 33 because it's there 2nd team annaduffs 1st team are in division 1 and are one off the favourites to win it if annaduff 1st team played mobile 1st team it would be a cricket score aswell think before you make a stupid post
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Replying To joeymc: "mohil bet annaduff by 33 because it's there 2nd team annaduffs 1st team are in division 1 and are one off the favourites to win it if annaduff 1st team played mobile 1st team it would be a cricket score aswell think before you make a stupid post" Annaduff have a serious pool of players coming through over the next few years. I hate to say it but it won't be long until they are one of the top dogs of Leitrim football.
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Replying To Leitrimforliam: "I think there needs to be a rule brought in that referees can't ref a senior game if they are also a senior footballer." What referee's do we have that are playing senior football??. Can't be to many
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Replying To joeymc: "mohil bet annaduff by 33 because it's there 2nd team annaduffs 1st team are in division 1 and are one off the favourites to win it if annaduff 1st team played mobile 1st team it would be a cricket score aswell think before you make a stupid post" I think my post, like basic grammar, is wasted on you.
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Replying To Thejampot: "What referee's do we have that are playing senior football??. Can't be to many" Referee that reffed the game last friday night between Mohill and Gortletteragh
Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 324 - 14/08/2024 18:53:54
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Replying To Leitrimforliam: "Annaduff have a serious pool of players coming through over the next few years. I hate to say it but it won't be long until they are one of the top dogs of Leitrim football." Correct. In about 3 years I'd expect Annaduff to be serious contenders.
The issue is with Mohill. Fair enough there can be a dearth of talent in every club but they would, at the very least, get more value from competing in Division 2 of the under 15 championship.
ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 140 - 14/08/2024 18:54:23
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Replying To Leitrimforliam: "Annaduff have a serious pool of players coming through over the next few years. I hate to say it but it won't be long until they are one of the top dogs of Leitrim football." They're competitive at every level alright, two teams in some underage sections. It's due to the hard work being put in to underage level and improving their facilities, astro pitch and gym built recently so teams can train all year round, playing pitch is poor though.
Be interesting to see how they do v Fenagh as they've performed credibly so far, big win last weekend despite a few injuries
gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 562 - 14/08/2024 18:55:50
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Replying To gaelsboy: "They're competitive at every level alright, two teams in some underage sections. It's due to the hard work being put in to underage level and improving their facilities, astro pitch and gym built recently so teams can train all year round, playing pitch is poor though.
Be interesting to see how they do v Fenagh as they've performed credibly so far, big win last weekend despite a few injuries" Has a lot more to do with the large number of people now living in the parish
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Replying To eslinchickenmaryland: "Oh sure we wouldn't be fit for div 2 at this stage anyway.
In fairness if that is true about the player you mentioned then it isn't worth it because at the end of his career he will have the same amount of All Ireland senior medals as a Leitrim player." It is true and he still has a minor all Ireland medal with mayo, connaught title medals, league medals etc bit more then letrim players have you can throw the joke around that mayo haven't won Sam we Know..
But the fact is we weren't great this year at all no where near our best we know.. but our s & C has kept us in division 1 and that's a fact.
Andy moran brought you up a division with the result of better s & C and that's a fact.
Wish you the best for 2025 and your new manager but lay off Andy moran he was right step away when he did.
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Replying To S1234: "It is true and he still has a minor all Ireland medal with mayo, connaught title medals, league medals etc bit more then letrim players have you can throw the joke around that mayo haven't won Sam we Know..
But the fact is we weren't great this year at all no where near our best we know.. but our s & C has kept us in division 1 and that's a fact.
Andy moran brought you up a division with the result of better s & C and that's a fact.
Wish you the best for 2025 and your new manager but lay off Andy moran he was right step away when he did." It wasn't a joke, it is fact I'm afraid
Nobody is laying on him, he did his best
eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 15/08/2024 08:36:18
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