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Replying To endgame:  "Do you think he got the penalty decision right and do you think he was right not to card Sean O'Shea for the follow up challenge on the goalkeeper.."
The answer to both of your questions is in my original post, as I do not think that Paddy Neilan got any major decisions badly wrong.
Yes; is was technically a penalty, as the Kerry player was slightly pulled down and Locan O' Dell's left leg also tripped the Kerry player. A very difficult penalty decision to make in the spur of the moment under pressure, but the correct call and decision by Paddy Neilan.
When the penalty was saved, Sean O Shea had every right to go for the breaking ball and his momentum took him into the keeper. In fairness, you have to look at it in real time to really judge the situation, as that is what the referee would have seen.
I think that it is good to give praise to Roscommon people from time to time as many posters have a negative mindset which tends to drain peoples energy (players/management/referees/supporters). Paddy Neilan in this case, did a very good job in a pressure situation and deserves some praise.

From a Roscommon perspective, it was interesting to read Joe Canning's column in last Friday's Irish Times (page 15) where he wrote about the impact of losing All Ireland's and the impact that Anthony Cunningham had on the Galway team that went on to win the All Ireland. I quote:

"I have no doubt that we wouldn't have won our All-Ireland in 2007 if it hadn't been for the years that Anthony was over us. There's a perception out there that his time with Galway was a failure because we lost two finals but that's never the way I looked at it. He changed so much about our culture, about out training, about our mentality. He did so much with the players before Micheal Donoghue arrived. If he hadn't, we wouldn't have won it so quickly with Micheal".

Interesting read and praise from Joe Canning. It is great to read some good news/praise for people involved in Roscommon GAA for a change!
Hopefully Galway will bring "Sam" over the Shannon in two weeks time!

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 77 - 11/07/2022 08:02:09    2431227

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Replying To Sindar:  "Congrats Paddy Neilan on a fine game today. I thought his top level career was over after a bit of a disaster in a Tipp game a few years back but he looked very composed and in control today. He got all the big decisions right and even the small ones, which in a tight game were big. The pick up off the ground against Sean Ó'Shea (I think) was an exceptional spot.
Unless the Rossies go an a period of total domination in the next few years he'll be getting the big one soon"
Pick off the ground was Stephen O Brien. Unbelievable mistake to make with a goal at his mercy.

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1075 - 11/07/2022 09:16:01    2431246

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Watching Galway v Derry... I actually thought of Ross... it could easily have been ye that is now preparing for an AI final.

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 234 - 11/07/2022 09:19:58    2431249

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Replying To Cbar:  "Watching Galway v Derry... I actually thought of Ross... it could easily have been ye that is now preparing for an AI final."
Actually thought the same, if we had a better defensive structure we're not a million miles from either. Also need to up the intensity levels. Take McGuigan out of that Derry forward line and I think we have more quality in those positions. Saying that we have no one like McKinless, McCloskey or McKeigue.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 225 - 11/07/2022 10:00:05    2431266

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Replying To Cbar:  "Watching Galway v Derry... I actually thought of Ross... it could easily have been ye that is now preparing for an AI final."
What a hilarious post. .... Deluded or what

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1075 - 11/07/2022 11:18:04    2431308

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Replying To eoinog:  "What a hilarious post. .... Deluded or what"
Mayoman said that.
How did Sligo do this year?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 11/07/2022 12:02:43    2431333

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Mayoman said that.
How did Sligo do this year?"
We are U.20 Connacht Champions.

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1075 - 11/07/2022 12:44:21    2431353

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Replying To eoinog:  "What a hilarious post. .... Deluded or what"
Your one bragging about winning a bet like a fifteen year old topped the hilarity scale a few weeks back.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 225 - 11/07/2022 12:45:22    2431354

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "The answer to both of your questions is in my original post, as I do not think that Paddy Neilan got any major decisions badly wrong.
Yes; is was technically a penalty, as the Kerry player was slightly pulled down and Locan O' Dell's left leg also tripped the Kerry player. A very difficult penalty decision to make in the spur of the moment under pressure, but the correct call and decision by Paddy Neilan.
When the penalty was saved, Sean O Shea had every right to go for the breaking ball and his momentum took him into the keeper. In fairness, you have to look at it in real time to really judge the situation, as that is what the referee would have seen.
I think that it is good to give praise to Roscommon people from time to time as many posters have a negative mindset which tends to drain peoples energy (players/management/referees/supporters). Paddy Neilan in this case, did a very good job in a pressure situation and deserves some praise.

From a Roscommon perspective, it was interesting to read Joe Canning's column in last Friday's Irish Times (page 15) where he wrote about the impact of losing All Ireland's and the impact that Anthony Cunningham had on the Galway team that went on to win the All Ireland. I quote:

"I have no doubt that we wouldn't have won our All-Ireland in 2007 if it hadn't been for the years that Anthony was over us. There's a perception out there that his time with Galway was a failure because we lost two finals but that's never the way I looked at it. He changed so much about our culture, about out training, about our mentality. He did so much with the players before Micheal Donoghue arrived. If he hadn't, we wouldn't have won it so quickly with Micheal".

Interesting read and praise from Joe Canning. It is great to read some good news/praise for people involved in Roscommon GAA for a change!
Hopefully Galway will bring "Sam" over the Shannon in two weeks time!"
I wonder was Joe Canning one of the 24 Galway players who voted No Confidence in Anthony Cunningham and his Management team in 2015 prior to Anthony's resignation as Galway Manager. Like you, I really hope that Galway can beat Kerry in the football Final on the 24th. It would be a great boost for Connacht football.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1765 - 11/07/2022 13:11:40    2431364

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Replying To eoinog:  "We are U.20 Connacht Champions."
I'll always wish the Yeatsmen well. I have to agree that Roscommon were nowhere nearly good enough to get to an All Ireland Final this year. We were beaten by Galway and Clare. We would likely have been beaten by Armagh and Derry. Our only championship win in the last 3 years was against Sligo and Sligo are a Division 4 team.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1765 - 11/07/2022 13:21:52    2431367

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Replying To eoinog:  "What a hilarious post. .... Deluded or what"
What is hilarious about the post? It was very much the reality of the situation.

* Roscommon were the only team that were unbeaten in all four divisions of the national league this year.
* Roscommon are division 2 champions.
* Roscommon beat Galway twice in the national league this year, who are now in the All Ireland Final with a great chance of winning it.
* Having not come out of the traps at all in the first half of the Connacht final, Roscommon came from nine points down and playing against a strong wind to bring it back to three points at the end, when we were motoring well.

Roscommon are not too far off the mark at the moment. Hopefully they will continue to put in a strong effort and stay in division 1 next year. It would be good to see another couple of our All Ireland under 20 team from 2021 being given a run next year if management think that they are up to it physically.
Division 2 should be very interesting; Mayo, Dublin, Derry etc...

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 77 - 11/07/2022 13:26:04    2431370

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Call a spade a spade. Roscommon were easily beaten by Galway. They then lost to Clare who got walloped by Derry who were then easily beaten by Galway on Sat. Anyone who comes on and says it could be Roscommon in a final is being silly. I'm not having a go at Roscommon football but if posters can somehow see they could be preparing for an All Ireland final they need a dose of reality

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1075 - 11/07/2022 14:21:52    2431408

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "What is hilarious about the post? It was very much the reality of the situation.

* Roscommon were the only team that were unbeaten in all four divisions of the national league this year.
* Roscommon are division 2 champions.
* Roscommon beat Galway twice in the national league this year, who are now in the All Ireland Final with a great chance of winning it.
* Having not come out of the traps at all in the first half of the Connacht final, Roscommon came from nine points down and playing against a strong wind to bring it back to three points at the end, when we were motoring well.

Roscommon are not too far off the mark at the moment. Hopefully they will continue to put in a strong effort and stay in division 1 next year. It would be good to see another couple of our All Ireland under 20 team from 2021 being given a run next year if management think that they are up to it physically.
Division 2 should be very interesting; Mayo, Dublin, Derry etc..."
Also Mayo are not in Div 2

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1075 - 11/07/2022 14:29:09    2431414

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Replying To Cbar:  "Watching Galway v Derry... I actually thought of Ross... it could easily have been ye that is now preparing for an AI final."
We weren't good enough defensively to have such thoughts. Clare we should be beating by a bit to spare but didn't because we conceded 2-15 against them and they normally score 12 to 14 points on average. A Derry forward line that looked toothless on Saturday looked that way because of the way Galway defended the same Derry would have scored freely against us scoring a number of goals.

Our main focus is preparing for 2023 NFL Div 1 campaign and coming up with a system that gets us defending better as a team. Come championship time then to have a team that is structured, hard to score against and harder to beat.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3202 - 11/07/2022 14:49:44    2431423

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Replying To eoinog:  "We are U.20 Connacht Champions."
Worst and luckiest u20 Connacht champions in ild say 10 years.
Them lads will do well get Sligo out of a poor division 4 next year and if they don't achieve that goal within 2 years they'll begin to stagnate and enjoy the trips to London and Leitrim.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1675 - 11/07/2022 14:50:09    2431424

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "What is hilarious about the post? It was very much the reality of the situation.

* Roscommon were the only team that were unbeaten in all four divisions of the national league this year.
* Roscommon are division 2 champions.
* Roscommon beat Galway twice in the national league this year, who are now in the All Ireland Final with a great chance of winning it.
* Having not come out of the traps at all in the first half of the Connacht final, Roscommon came from nine points down and playing against a strong wind to bring it back to three points at the end, when we were motoring well.

Roscommon are not too far off the mark at the moment. Hopefully they will continue to put in a strong effort and stay in division 1 next year. It would be good to see another couple of our All Ireland under 20 team from 2021 being given a run next year if management think that they are up to it physically.
Division 2 should be very interesting; Mayo, Dublin, Derry etc..."
Mayo will not be in Division 2 next year !

kingofclubs (Meath) - Posts: 269 - 11/07/2022 15:14:17    2431443

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Worst and luckiest u20 Connacht champions in ild say 10 years.
Them lads will do well get Sligo out of a poor division 4 next year and if they don't achieve that goal within 2 years they'll begin to stagnate and enjoy the trips to London and Leitrim."
Ooohhhhh whose a bitter poster !!! Not that long ago that you were well down the divisions also and we were in Div 2. Our worst and lucky U.20 team had little difficulty in beating Roscommon so where does that leave your team ? And for good measure our minors also beat you. In fact Roscommon minors failed to beat any Connacht team in the Round Robin Series. Now go back to you fantasy Football

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1075 - 11/07/2022 15:52:56    2431460

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Replying To eoinog:  "What a hilarious post. .... Deluded or what"
I have no delusions about the quality of Ross football - why would I? But these are the facts:

- Should have beaten Clare - only themselves to blame
- Finished ahead of Derry in League - is it really inconceivable that they would not beat them in a Q final? I don't see why not. Derry were shown up to be really poor by Galway
- Play Galway for 4th time this year. No fear going into the game and very little to lose.

It's all academic now anyway so no point arguing over what ifs and maybe I'm overstating Ross football but I think it was well within their scope.

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 234 - 11/07/2022 16:15:12    2431474

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Replying To eoinog:  "Ooohhhhh whose a bitter poster !!! Not that long ago that you were well down the divisions also and we were in Div 2. Our worst and lucky U.20 team had little difficulty in beating Roscommon so where does that leave your team ? And for good measure our minors also beat you. In fact Roscommon minors failed to beat any Connacht team in the Round Robin Series. Now go back to you fantasy Football"
You do a fair bit of yourself so you should have the smarts to know OhtobeARossie is winding you up with the worst remark in regards to your U20 team this year.

"had little difficulty in beating Roscommon" is not true. You won by one point with the winner kicked in the 2nd minute of injury time. A match we had only ourselves to blame for losing as 33 scoring chances created and just 12 scores.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3202 - 11/07/2022 16:42:27    2431486

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Replying To eoinog:  "Call a spade a spade. Roscommon were easily beaten by Galway. They then lost to Clare who got walloped by Derry who were then easily beaten by Galway on Sat. Anyone who comes on and says it could be Roscommon in a final is being silly. I'm not having a go at Roscommon football but if posters can somehow see they could be preparing for an All Ireland final they need a dose of reality"
Sadly I have to agree with you. It's an old adage but league and Championship are entirely different kettles of fish. Roscommon probably have the players to be in the conversation but they're lacking a system and the belief. They're not even in the top 10 in Championship rankings this year. I know they made the last 8 but they got the best draw against Clare and mucked it up. Donegal, Monaghan, Tyrone (as bad and all as they were) and possibility Kildare would all have beaten them.

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 317 - 11/07/2022 17:53:55    2431514

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