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Hopefully, we can continue our discussions after the decision to close the Fermanagh forum and every other county forum.

With Championship ever near and another county season coming, this may be a place to discuss it.

Itown1234 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 19 - 30/09/2021 14:15:57    2383743

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This was posted as a new thread but since the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here.

SkeaLad
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03/12/2021
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Fermanagh Management


Views on Managements -
New Minor (U17) Management.
Following their disastrous Ulster Minor Championship exit, the few months in place manager has resigned with newly appointed joint minor management put in place with the Raymie Johnston and Tony Collins taking over who both have a wealth of experience on and off the pitch. Will they get the best of the team? The opinion of many of the minors is positive.
New Senior Management.
Recently appointed Fermanagh senior manager, Kieran Donnelly will have a major task before him come Ulster championship time. Although, outgoing manager Ryan McMenamin was well liked by the players however his 2-year stint resulted in poor outcomes for Fermanagh. Now things are looking up as according to Donnelly he feels can embrace the challenge before him with confidence having a good experience support being assisted by Fearghal Quinn along with Ryan McCluskey as team coach and Pat Cadden as goalkeeping coach. Niall Smyth, Ger Treacy and Stephen Jackson will work under the 'umbrella' of selectors/statistical analysts/logistics and Leon Carters will remain as the Fermanagh strength and conditioning coach. Will they get the best of the team? With a great set-up management wise we hope they will.

Administrator (None) - Posts: 2258 - 04/12/2021 09:43:23    2391601

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Why is it that our hurlers are more consistent and football teams are not?
I must say well done to Lisbellaw who beat Newry 3-15 to 1-8 in the Ulster Club IHC Q-final.
Meanwhile, Belleek are out after being beaten by Moortown by 2-5 to 3-12 in the Ulster Club IFC Q-final.
And yesterday Derrygonnelly struggled after the Ulster Club SFC Q-final had to extra time to let them progress with a finishing score of 1-16 to Dromore's 0-13.

SkeaLad (Fermanagh) - Posts: 508 - 05/12/2021 16:05:12    2391742

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What way are the clubs fixed for management next year?

Maybe some of you could post up the names of who was over the clubs this season and whether they're staying or going, and if gone who they're being replaced by?

Derrygonnelly - Sean Flanagan, Mick McGlynn, Paul Greene
Enniskillen - John Rehill
Kinawley - Ollie Fay
Belnaleck - Colm Bradley
Ederney - Micky Cassidy
Tempo - Jackson
Irvinestown - Largo-Ellis
Teemore - Barry Owens
Devenish - Sid Mulrone, Barry Mulrone, Martin O'Brien
Erne Gaels - Seamus Ryder
Roslea - Peter McGinnity
Belcoo - Shane McCabe
Derrylin - Aidan Gilroy
Donagh - Hasson
Coa - Donnelly
Aghadrumsee - Pat Cadden
Brookborough -
Lisnaskea - Clarke
Newtownbutler -
Maguiresbridge -

Feel free to add to those management teams if I've missed any names, coaches etc.

wombat (Tyrone) - Posts: 26 - 07/12/2021 18:43:26    2392028

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Replying To wombat:  "What way are the clubs fixed for management next year?

Maybe some of you could post up the names of who was over the clubs this season and whether they're staying or going, and if gone who they're being replaced by?

Derrygonnelly - Sean Flanagan, Mick McGlynn, Paul Greene
Enniskillen - John Rehill
Kinawley - Ollie Fay
Belnaleck - Colm Bradley
Ederney - Micky Cassidy
Tempo - Jackson
Irvinestown - Largo-Ellis
Teemore - Barry Owens
Devenish - Sid Mulrone, Barry Mulrone, Martin O'Brien
Erne Gaels - Seamus Ryder
Roslea - Peter McGinnity
Belcoo - Shane McCabe
Derrylin - Aidan Gilroy
Donagh - Hasson
Coa - Donnelly
Aghadrumsee - Pat Cadden
Brookborough -
Lisnaskea - Clarke
Newtownbutler -
Maguiresbridge -

Feel free to add to those management teams if I've missed any names, coaches etc."
Hi Wombatty, I see in t0ay's Fermanagh Herald some of those management positions stated as in bold as confirmed, not confirmed or vacant. Others you mentioned in italic fates are unknown.
Derrygonnelly - Sean Flanagan, Mick McGlynn, Paul Greene
Enniskillen - John Rehill is pretty clear he is staying on in the hot seat
Kinawley - Ollie Fay has stepped down after 2 seasons and Dom Corrigan now takes over. That's brilliant news for the club to have their legend back!
Belnaleck - Colm Bradley is mulling over whether or not to stay
Ederney - Mickey Cassidy will remain at the helm
Tempo - Jackson
Irvinestown - Lawrence Largo-Ellis & Aiden Ormsby are likely to remain joint managers
Teemore - Quartet managers Barry Owens, Sean Owens, Gerry Quinlin & Conor Doherty remain
Devenish - Sid Mulrone, Barry Mulrone, Martin O'Brien
Erne Gaels - Seamus Ryder

Roslea - Peter McGinnity has decided to call it a day
Belcoo - Shane McCabe
Derrylin - Aidan Gilroy in a surprise move he has parted company with the club. He has also parted company with the County U17 /Minor team
Donagh - Hasson
Coa - Gary Donnelly has stepped down
Aghadrumsee - Pat Cadden stepped down had stepped down from manager
Brookborough - Stephen Donnelly will not be staying on as indicated earlier
Lisnaskea - Peter Clarke has stepped down
Newtownbutler -
Maguiresbridge - Keith Reilly has departed the hot seat just after one season

cillnaile. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 979 - 08/12/2021 11:13:12    2392063

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Why did the Derrylin chief depart so abruptly after a short stay and similarly the co minor ten to? Also Corrigan must think Kinawley has chance of getting their hands on the New York Cup. Wonders will never cease :)

hillbilly. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 33 - 08/12/2021 13:33:03    2392090

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Replying To hillbilly.:  "Why did the Derrylin chief depart so abruptly after a short stay and similarly the co minor ten to? Also Corrigan must think Kinawley has chance of getting their hands on the New York Cup. Wonders will never cease :)"
Hey Hillbilly what status is your Teemore senior team? Oh yes in div2 with no chance of getting their hands on the NY Cup for a long time and maybe never again. Your club is becoming more and more like Coa and B'boro i.e., going no where!

cillnaile. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 979 - 09/12/2021 12:08:34    2392177

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Can anyone remember such a huge turn over in managers at the end of a season??
Are clubs being totally unrealistic in their ambitions, or are they running out of money paying outsiders to come in and hope for a quick win

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 304 - 10/12/2021 11:43:19    2392281

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Big appointment for Kinawley. Dom will only have went there if he feels they can win the championship. Some amount of managerial changes there! Will the confirmed men manage and train the teams or get someone else in to do the coaching?

wombat (Tyrone) - Posts: 26 - 11/12/2021 14:20:32    2392394

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Replying To KeshGFC:  "Can anyone remember such a huge turn over in managers at the end of a season??
Are clubs being totally unrealistic in their ambitions, or are they running out of money paying outsiders to come in and hope for a quick win"
KeshGFC are you speaking from personal experience??

On a more positive note, it great to see Brian Armitage taking over as the chief of the County Board as Kelly's tenure has expired.

In other news, Lissan, the 'white elephant', is set for multi-million pound development see picture at
Upgrade and development is proposed to cost in the region of £2-3 million and will take place in four phases over the next five years.

According to GaelicLife weekly, the development is subject to planning permission which will be sought in late January but if passed the plans would see the facility transformed into a complex which will include a 3000 sq ft gym, a dining space which would cater for 50 people, a meeting room which could hold 150 people, a covered stand and dugouts, parking facilities and floodlight facilities to enable games to be hosted at the venue.

Phase 1 has already been completed with two grass pitches resurfaced which will be fully open next April and it is envisaged that Phase 2 will take place over the next two years. The main focus of this stage of development will be upgrading the floodlights to 500 lux at an approximate cost of £300k widening and upgrading the access road, building a new stand, fencing and dugouts and upgrading the car park and existing building. The projected cost for this phase will be £550k.

Phase 3 will see the largest expenditure, an estimated £1.5 - £2million will be spent on a new pavilion and it is hoped that it will be completed by 2028. This will house the strength and conditioning hub, dining, meeting and changing facilities and office space.

A total of four pitches is needed by Fermanagh GAA but only two can be housed at Lissan leaving a shortfall. In Phase 4, this means acquiring land elsewhere in the county with the Bawnacre-Necarne a potential site to build another two pitches. Pre-Covid, Fermanagh GAA had agreed a minimum of £1million funding from Croke Park and it's hoped that this can be secured within the next three years with other funding also being sought to help cover some of the projected costs. Club Éirne are also planning a major fundraising initiative. The design for the development is being drawn by Keys and Monaghan Architects in Irvinestown, they recently completed the Ederney and Roslea developments and the spectator stand at the Garvaghey centre.

AuldGussie (Fermanagh) - Posts: 83 - 17/12/2021 13:43:57    2393093

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I forgot to include the link to see the redevelopment proposal for Lissan which is https://www.gaeliclife.com/counties/fermanagh/lissan-set-for-multi-million-pound-development/

AuldGussie (Fermanagh) - Posts: 83 - 17/12/2021 13:49:41    2393094

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Replying To AuldGussie:  "I forgot to include the link to see the redevelopment proposal for Lissan which is https://www.gaeliclife.com/counties/fermanagh/lissan-set-for-multi-million-pound-development/"
This Lissan upgrade is a total waste of money. I've said it before and nothing has changed my mind. Stop before it's too late. IT'S IN THE WRONG PLACE. Now, apparently, two extra pitches are needed miles away from Lissan because there's not enough space for them on the hilltop. What other 'centre of excellence' is split into two locations. Think of this. if there's a training session and the Lissan pitches are in use, THE PARTICIPANTS HAVE TO GO THERE, GET CHANGED, DRIVE MILES AND MILES TO THE SECONDARY PITCHES, HAVE THEIR TRAINING SESSION AND DRIVE BACK TO LISSAN FOR THEIR SHOWER AND TEAM TALK. mad, mad mad.

hairyhorses (Fermanagh) - Posts: 14 - 20/12/2021 17:22:23    2393350

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Replying To AuldGussie:  "KeshGFC are you speaking from personal experience??

On a more positive note, it great to see Brian Armitage taking over as the chief of the County Board as Kelly's tenure has expired.

In other news, Lissan, the 'white elephant', is set for multi-million pound development see picture at
Upgrade and development is proposed to cost in the region of £2-3 million and will take place in four phases over the next five years.

According to GaelicLife weekly, the development is subject to planning permission which will be sought in late January but if passed the plans would see the facility transformed into a complex which will include a 3000 sq ft gym, a dining space which would cater for 50 people, a meeting room which could hold 150 people, a covered stand and dugouts, parking facilities and floodlight facilities to enable games to be hosted at the venue.

Phase 1 has already been completed with two grass pitches resurfaced which will be fully open next April and it is envisaged that Phase 2 will take place over the next two years. The main focus of this stage of development will be upgrading the floodlights to 500 lux at an approximate cost of £300k widening and upgrading the access road, building a new stand, fencing and dugouts and upgrading the car park and existing building. The projected cost for this phase will be £550k.

Phase 3 will see the largest expenditure, an estimated £1.5 - £2million will be spent on a new pavilion and it is hoped that it will be completed by 2028. This will house the strength and conditioning hub, dining, meeting and changing facilities and office space.

A total of four pitches is needed by Fermanagh GAA but only two can be housed at Lissan leaving a shortfall. In Phase 4, this means acquiring land elsewhere in the county with the Bawnacre-Necarne a potential site to build another two pitches. Pre-Covid, Fermanagh GAA had agreed a minimum of £1million funding from Croke Park and it's hoped that this can be secured within the next three years with other funding also being sought to help cover some of the projected costs. Club Éirne are also planning a major fundraising initiative. The design for the development is being drawn by Keys and Monaghan Architects in Irvinestown, they recently completed the Ederney and Roslea developments and the spectator stand at the Garvaghey centre."
I agree with ya for once … it's totally the wrong location up in lissan and if it is built the few mile of road off the Tempo road is totally unsuitable for the volume of traffic it will get at peek times .. and no lol I'm not speaking from experience for managerial turnover lol .. I haven't coached beyond underage club and I guess I'd be out of a coaching job only if I didn't volunteer again next year … I've been dropping of kids to the academies a few times and the traffic even for those events are a nightmare with the narrow roads … but here they ve already put the money in the pitches and will no doubt now double down .. my idea would be to make lissan the extra 2 pitches and stick the first 2 pitches and the new buildings more centrally … which let's face it is most other locations unless they are eyeing up Cooneen too lol

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 304 - 21/12/2021 13:36:42    2393399

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First game out of the new year, been a while, just great to have games on again.

Big job on his hands but Keiran Donnelly is a shrewd man and im sure knew the task he was signing up for was a huge one. Alot of young players given a chance today, thought, Cavanagh, McDade and McCaffrey showed some promise on their debuts.
Bench looked very youthful and fact that not many subs made shows maybe some not ready for county football yet. Obviously with Derygonnelly contigent unavailable weakens team but those alone wont get Fermanagh where need to be at for important league campaign

Great to see Ryan Lyons back in county jersey again, while Quigley looks in great shape and ready for he up coming league.
Think the goalkeeper position is one that needs looked at, the role of a goalkeeper has evolved, so crucial in terms of distribution, presence and organisation,it has cost Fermanagh over last few years in keys moments of games.

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 980 - 09/01/2022 16:35:48    2394237

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Replying To macca999:  "First game out of the new year, been a while, just great to have games on again.

Big job on his hands but Keiran Donnelly is a shrewd man and im sure knew the task he was signing up for was a huge one. Alot of young players given a chance today, thought, Cavanagh, McDade and McCaffrey showed some promise on their debuts.
Bench looked very youthful and fact that not many subs made shows maybe some not ready for county football yet. Obviously with Derygonnelly contigent unavailable weakens team but those alone wont get Fermanagh where need to be at for important league campaign

Great to see Ryan Lyons back in county jersey again, while Quigley looks in great shape and ready for he up coming league.
Think the goalkeeper position is one that needs looked at, the role of a goalkeeper has evolved, so crucial in terms of distribution, presence and organisation,it has cost Fermanagh over last few years in keys moments of games."
My God Lazarus Raised from the Dead! I just thought it was too good to be true. More waffle for us to endure.
As for today's game, there was nothing to impressive from the bunch younger recruits and the oldies were just so so. I know it is early days for the Donnelly management and when the Harps county contingent return, probably after the Ulster final, it will help management to put together the missing jigsaw pieces. I don't agree will Lazarus with his goalkeeping take but no one takes him serious anyway. Hoping to see our Ekn lads making a difference to the team this year.

gaalltheway (Fermanagh) - Posts: 788 - 09/01/2022 17:17:37    2394247

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Replying To gaalltheway:  "My God Lazarus Raised from the Dead! I just thought it was too good to be true. More waffle for us to endure.
As for today's game, there was nothing to impressive from the bunch younger recruits and the oldies were just so so. I know it is early days for the Donnelly management and when the Harps county contingent return, probably after the Ulster final, it will help management to put together the missing jigsaw pieces. I don't agree will Lazarus with his goalkeeping take but no one takes him serious anyway. Hoping to see our Ekn lads making a difference to the team this year."
Ha still acting the comedian gaaalltheway

I was trying to have some positivity with the new year but agree few bright lights but early days.

Johnny Cassidy and Conor Love certainly will improve things from today.

I think keeper very slow to get the kickouts going, while in the second half we couldn't buy ball from own kickout for 15 minutes, not solely GK responsibility but certainly a factor and will cost matches going forward if not sharper.

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 980 - 09/01/2022 17:51:11    2394250

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Some great young talent in Fermanagh at the minute, but hope this new management can develop them because the Monaghan young lads today look in serious condition but are no more talented than what Fermanagh have got . Just worried about midfield and no go to forward in the full forward line. Some real promising players just we hold possession to long and not direct enough. Antrim game in three weeks is a massive game this year and a must win. Also some of the enniskillen players look over rated to be honest.

Borderland (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1 - 09/01/2022 20:10:07    2394289

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Most notable things for me where 1 the gulf in
S&C between 3 teams and 2 the ease with which Monaghan sliced thru an apparently packed defence .. the s&c can be addressed now for the 2026 season at the earliest and it's an academy lead thing for one thing but also every club now needs a decent gym and last need to be at it from 14 / 15
Addressing our porous defence well the days of defending your way to victory are gone and most winning teams are racking up 15 to 20 scores per game now … and there's a question for u .. when did a Fermanagh team last score 20 times !!!
And these aren't observations from just yesterday .. before you all say first game and new team and only McKenna etc which are all true .. all I wanted to see yesterday was a blue print for future to see the Donnelly stamp.. now can anyone actually tell me what that was ?? I can't

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 304 - 10/01/2022 09:14:02    2394327

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Replying To macca999:  "Ha still acting the comedian gaaalltheway

I was trying to have some positivity with the new year but agree few bright lights but early days.

Johnny Cassidy and Conor Love certainly will improve things from today.

I think keeper very slow to get the kickouts going, while in the second half we couldn't buy ball from own kickout for 15 minutes, not solely GK responsibility but certainly a factor and will cost matches going forward if not sharper."
First of all to macca999
Look at yourself before trying to demean me in response to my earlier post. After a search I found this comment from you as a multi username poster and it clearly shows who is actually the comedian and it reads
"I cannot access my own account at the moment but people will know me a macca999. I come on here to express my outrage. My hair may have fallen out, my teeth may have fallen out, I may at times fallen out with some arrogant Gaa supporters but this is by far the biggest fallout I have had and the damage is going to be huge to hoganstand in terms of viewership. You have now pulled the rug from not only our Fermanagh forum but nearly all of rural Ireland where many gas folk found it a useful channel to express their views on local football and at times criticise the gas is it was warranted...maybe that was one of the reasons that you now deny us if our voice? I not on the other stuff like Facebook nor am I twit if that the term for those social media crowd so I'm like thousands of others are going to lose out on discussing a sport that I have been so passionate about all my life. I hope your plan fails and the county forums returned immediately.
GalloonBaffoon (Fermanagh) - Posts: 107 - 01/10/2021 16:04:59"


As regards my "Lazarus has arisen from the dead" comment was in response to posts on some other thread where you let others believe you were no longer with us in this world - not exactly a very nice thing to do.

Now to the Borderland post, a first time post, it would not surprise me if it was you at your multi posting as you take a direct swipe at the Ekn players.

Then we have Kesh GFC, who could also be you as well, taking a swipe at the team and management but fails to tell us how he would resolve Fermanagh's problems - a typically fireside know-it-all observer just like macca.

There ends my responses. Thank you Hoganstand for giving me the opportunity.

gaalltheway (Fermanagh) - Posts: 788 - 10/01/2022 11:58:05    2394360

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Replying To gaalltheway:  "First of all to macca999
Look at yourself before trying to demean me in response to my earlier post. After a search I found this comment from you as a multi username poster and it clearly shows who is actually the comedian and it reads
"I cannot access my own account at the moment but people will know me a macca999. I come on here to express my outrage. My hair may have fallen out, my teeth may have fallen out, I may at times fallen out with some arrogant Gaa supporters but this is by far the biggest fallout I have had and the damage is going to be huge to hoganstand in terms of viewership. You have now pulled the rug from not only our Fermanagh forum but nearly all of rural Ireland where many gas folk found it a useful channel to express their views on local football and at times criticise the gas is it was warranted...maybe that was one of the reasons that you now deny us if our voice? I not on the other stuff like Facebook nor am I twit if that the term for those social media crowd so I'm like thousands of others are going to lose out on discussing a sport that I have been so passionate about all my life. I hope your plan fails and the county forums returned immediately.
GalloonBaffoon (Fermanagh) - Posts: 107 - 01/10/2021 16:04:59"


As regards my "Lazarus has arisen from the dead" comment was in response to posts on some other thread where you let others believe you were no longer with us in this world - not exactly a very nice thing to do.

Now to the Borderland post, a first time post, it would not surprise me if it was you at your multi posting as you take a direct swipe at the Ekn players.

Then we have Kesh GFC, who could also be you as well, taking a swipe at the team and management but fails to tell us how he would resolve Fermanagh's problems - a typically fireside know-it-all observer just like macca.

There ends my responses. Thank you Hoganstand for giving me the opportunity."
here its just my job to point out what needs to be worked on and im sure when the management teams sit down and read the hoganstand thread this evening they will know what they should address first !!....oh and YES a typo ..i meant diff in S&C between THE teams ...not 3 teams lol
If I had all the answers to those issues id get myself in to management something above the u13s lol

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 304 - 10/01/2022 12:54:21    2394377

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