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Replying To kiloughter:  "Anyone who is questioning some of the decisions could do worse than read Brian Gavin's (former all ireland ref) weekly piece in the Monday examiner in terms of the key incidents from the weekends matches. He notes the rule change on the footblock so a marginal one and would have been harsh on us given the rule change. Kieran Molloy unfortunately for us had to go on black but Brian Stack was lucky with his drag down on Damo when the latter was one on one with the goal. On the match very little noted on the two goal chances we butchered and we will need to convert those on other days. Enda Smith's first half miss was key as he often converts those and this has naturally being highlighted. Ros I think will get more out of our forward line the next day but maybe just maybe the pressure they were under should be credited to our backs as typically they will do damage with space etc."
I looked up this article and it says
"There were calls later for a penalty when it appeared John Daly had footblocked Brian Stack but that rule has been refined in recent years and a player can make such a tackle so long as they are more than a foot away."
He was definitely more than a foot away so if this statement is correct it was no penalty. But a foot seems a very short distance as the follow through would be more than a foot and would still be dangerous.
I wonder is this a correct statement?

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 397 - 30/05/2022 15:03:57    2421133

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Replying To Yondu:  "Midfield stats were not great let's be honest. 51 kick outs yesterday. Roscommon won 32 of them Galway 19. The Rossies also had more shots on goal and scored 3-16.

Up next could be Tyrone, Donegal or Mayo in Croke Park where Galway have a dreadful record in since 2001. Connacht title won but lots to work on for PJ and his management over the next 4 weeks."
Yeah, the midfield stats aren't yet good enough for where we're aiming - which is as serious AI contenders. Our high fielding isn't high enough! Prior to this match, I was watching from the sideline the Leitrim midfielders often getting off the deck much higher, better run up, better hang time and claiming the ball well over our jumpers. Same yesterday. Roscommon midfielders seem to be able to launch that extra foot or few inches over us on numerous occasions. We're not pulling down those high ones often enough and our positioning sees the ball getting repeatedly batted forward out of the fielders' hands. That doesn't seem to happen to the likes of Brian Fenton too much! Hate to be critical after a great win but this is good stuff to be working on during the long evenings!

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 30/05/2022 15:26:52    2421145

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Replying To Yondu:  "Midfield stats were not great let's be honest. 51 kick outs yesterday. Roscommon won 32 of them Galway 19. The Rossies also had more shots on goal and scored 3-16.

Up next could be Tyrone, Donegal or Mayo in Croke Park where Galway have a dreadful record in since 2001. Connacht title won but lots to work on for PJ and his management over the next 4 weeks."
Did we not beat Kerry in the Super 8's in Croker? Our problem is the main has been not getting to Croker!

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 653 - 30/05/2022 15:41:26    2421152

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Did we not beat Kerry in the Super 8's in Croker? Our problem is the main has been not getting to Croker!"
Fair point. It is not as if we are losing there every 2nd year. You are correct. We have played little championship intensity football over the last 16yrs. On the flip side it used to irk me when the label of Galway often open up when they get to HQ. Again in recent times we have not got there near enough to have either of those reputations.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1878 - 30/05/2022 15:56:03    2421162

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Did we not beat Kerry in the Super 8's in Croker? Our problem is the main has been not getting to Croker!"
Beat Kerry easily that day in Croke Park. Terrible game though.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 180 - 30/05/2022 16:02:17    2421165

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Did we not beat Kerry in the Super 8's in Croker? Our problem is the main has been not getting to Croker!"
Yes a first and only championship win in Croke Park since 2001. That was a group game still awaiting to win a knock out championship game there even lost to Tipperary there let's not forget.

@Belclare. Games last 70 plus minutes doesn't matter if it was the first of last minute when scores came. The Rossies also hit 10 wides and a few other chances for further goals. Long story short more improvement needed before attacking the All-Ireland series.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 633 - 30/05/2022 16:23:49    2421180

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Replying To Yondu:  "Yes a first and only championship win in Croke Park since 2001. That was a group game still awaiting to win a knock out championship game there even lost to Tipperary there let's not forget.

@Belclare. Games last 70 plus minutes doesn't matter if it was the first of last minute when scores came. The Rossies also hit 10 wides and a few other chances for further goals. Long story short more improvement needed before attacking the All-Ireland series."
1st and only Championship win since 2001 - said as if we play there 4 times a year. From (bad) memory we have played Donegal in a replay, Kerry in the lashing rain and the Dubs (who no one beat for about 5 years)

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 653 - 30/05/2022 16:28:54    2421183

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Fair point. It is not as if we are losing there every 2nd year. You are correct. We have played little championship intensity football over the last 16yrs. On the flip side it used to irk me when the label of Galway often open up when they get to HQ. Again in recent times we have not got there near enough to have either of those reputations."
Yeah spot on, totally agree with that.

Mainly lazy Journalism, it was thrown at the hurlers that 'What Galway team will turn up every year between 2012 and their All Ireland win in 2017 even though they were (on a whole) massively consistent.

Sure seen somewhere that Roscomm werent able to play in the tight confines of Pearse Stadium yesterday - and it bigger than Croke Park!

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 653 - 30/05/2022 16:31:22    2421186

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Strong and well balanced Galway team can see looking at it why they are favourites to win this Connacht final."
Apologies GAA lover you were correct all along!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 2735 - 30/05/2022 17:12:45    2421207

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Replying To Belclare:  "2 16.
1 1 in the last seconds."
Same against Mayo, we seemed to fall apart a bit in the last few minutes. I can't fathom why we kept on hitting long kick-outs when we were losing them all in the last few minutes, so kick-out strategy needs a lot of work.
Well Done Galway on yesterday, but what other posters ( and I) are saying is that if these two issues (fade-out at end of games, and kick-outs) are not fixed then we mightn't go much further.

Bosco98 (Galway) - Posts: 127 - 30/05/2022 17:15:04    2421210

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Replying To Bosco98:  "Same against Mayo, we seemed to fall apart a bit in the last few minutes. I can't fathom why we kept on hitting long kick-outs when we were losing them all in the last few minutes, so kick-out strategy needs a lot of work.
Well Done Galway on yesterday, but what other posters ( and I) are saying is that if these two issues (fade-out at end of games, and kick-outs) are not fixed then we mightn't go much further."
Fully agree but you can add a third issue i.e. tackling opposing forwards when in possession without giving away frees etc. as there were a lot of Galway players back most times with no tackles going in or attempting to block shots down. Need to be much tighter and tackle hard (with discipline) in defence.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 2735 - 30/05/2022 17:28:11    2421222

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Replying To tommy k:  "Apologies GAA lover you were correct all along!"
Apology accepted. To be honest it was rather easy prediction to make. Galway had a number of factors in their favour.

Momentum Off from beating Mayo in MacHale Park when did Galway not win a Connacht title after beating Mayo in MacHale Park?

Momentum and further confidence builder by hammering Leitrim out the gate. Ruthless streak shown.

Had improved since the league final with more of a focus to mark the opposition key players. The two Smiths and Ciaran Murtagh all good forwards was marked out of the game yesterday.

Opposition had regressed took until the 2nd half to put a poor Sligo side away, Galway showed simliar form v Sligo in 2019 and carried that form into the final and lost.

Motivation and determination of not wanting to lose three games in a row to Roscommon and the unwanted record of losing 4 Connacht finals in a row which hadn't been done by Galway since 1907 to 1910.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2852 - 30/05/2022 17:41:47    2421230

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Replying To Yondu:  "Yes a first and only championship win in Croke Park since 2001. That was a group game still awaiting to win a knock out championship game there even lost to Tipperary there let's not forget.

@Belclare. Games last 70 plus minutes doesn't matter if it was the first of last minute when scores came. The Rossies also hit 10 wides and a few other chances for further goals. Long story short more improvement needed before attacking the All-Ireland series."
People here saying if the Rossies scored this and that...
Galway left two other glorious goals behind them..
If they got them then it would have been 4 19 to 1 15 in the dying seconds.
Interested to hear P J says after the game he was very annoyed with our subs etc down on the sideline ready to rush on before Roscommon got the last goal.
He feels it led to a lack of concentration etc for that score and said it won't happen again.. as in subs getting carried away..

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 724 - 31/05/2022 08:14:06    2421277

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Well DOne to Galway by far the better team on the day and the scorelined flattered us in truth. We will have to pick ourselves up and hope for a favourable qualifier draw.


Would Galway be concerned conceding such a high score again while playing that defensive?

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 703 - 31/05/2022 10:14:06    2421303

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Apology accepted. To be honest it was rather easy prediction to make. Galway had a number of factors in their favour.

Momentum Off from beating Mayo in MacHale Park when did Galway not win a Connacht title after beating Mayo in MacHale Park?

Momentum and further confidence builder by hammering Leitrim out the gate. Ruthless streak shown.

Had improved since the league final with more of a focus to mark the opposition key players. The two Smiths and Ciaran Murtagh all good forwards was marked out of the game yesterday.

Opposition had regressed took until the 2nd half to put a poor Sligo side away, Galway showed simliar form v Sligo in 2019 and carried that form into the final and lost.

Motivation and determination of not wanting to lose three games in a row to Roscommon and the unwanted record of losing 4 Connacht finals in a row which hadn't been done by Galway since 1907 to 1910."
Having the better players probably helped a tad also

PressureKick (UK) - Posts: 149 - 31/05/2022 12:27:30    2421346

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "Well DOne to Galway by far the better team on the day and the scorelined flattered us in truth. We will have to pick ourselves up and hope for a favourable qualifier draw.


Would Galway be concerned conceding such a high score again while playing that defensive?"
Yeah, there's a concern about the leads we're letting slip - both against yourselves and Mayo. However, a good few of these lads and the subs on the bench have never won a Connacht title and looks like they were getting distracted towards the end and already a bit in celebratory mode. They definitely lost some of the concentration and intensity shown for 90% of the match. I think that contributed to leaking some of the scores at the end. I think we'll get more 'professional' on that and will hopefully close out games more focused and ruthlessly.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 31/05/2022 12:30:19    2421348

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "Well DOne to Galway by far the better team on the day and the scorelined flattered us in truth. We will have to pick ourselves up and hope for a favourable qualifier draw.


Would Galway be concerned conceding such a high score again while playing that defensive?"
While playing to the actual gameplan, we did quite well defensively. Anything around 0-14 or 0-15 isn't a bad score to concede against a team with talented forwards like Roscommon.
The last 7 minutes plus injury time however, are a certainly a concern, but also fixable.
People are talking about us not closing games out, but I from what I've seen at both games, the issue is us actively trying to see the game out and how we go about this.
Against both Mayo and Roscommon we dropped deeper to defend the lead late on and stopped pressuring the ball further out the pitch. This is a natural reaction of many teams when defending a lead, but it's counter-productive.
While we do have greater numbers back, it essentially gifts possession to the opposition and affords them lots of time to pick a pass inside.
This puts a lot of pressure on the backline. It also means we'll struggle to win any longer kickouts as we have fewer numbers in the middle to pick up breaks. This happened on Sunday and also against Mayo at the end. We end up facing attack after attack and it's inevitable that these will lead to scores as defences are more tired late on.
We need to keep pressuring the ball further up the pitch and not retreat if we had a lead late in the game. This makes the task much easier for the backline.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1436 - 31/05/2022 13:19:21    2421365

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "Well DOne to Galway by far the better team on the day and the scorelined flattered us in truth. We will have to pick ourselves up and hope for a favourable qualifier draw.


Would Galway be concerned conceding such a high score again while playing that defensive?"
Playing defensive? Galway scored 2-19 (nearly all of it from play) would love to see what we would do to the opposition if we played "offensive"

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 533 - 31/05/2022 13:20:24    2421367

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To be fair on Sunday, by the time the Rossies got the 2 goals there was a certain carnival feel about the game. It was done and dusted and we were raiding through their defense, bombing forward looking for goals ourselves rather than shutting up shop.

The Mayo game was different and we retreated into our shell. Don't think that happened on Sunday and yes we did concede 2 goals late but I think that was more because we probably let the shackles off big time near the end and were less disciplined.

We are still a work in progress no doubt, but we are certainly improving. We will need to keep improving as the challenges get bigger. The Q/F or potential S/F opponents won't be much better than what we have already played other than the fact that they will have a few wins under their belt. All to play for.

McDaid is a huge bonus for us. Like having a new player.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1623 - 31/05/2022 13:48:00    2421382

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "While playing to the actual gameplan, we did quite well defensively. Anything around 0-14 or 0-15 isn't a bad score to concede against a team with talented forwards like Roscommon.
The last 7 minutes plus injury time however, are a certainly a concern, but also fixable.
People are talking about us not closing games out, but I from what I've seen at both games, the issue is us actively trying to see the game out and how we go about this.
Against both Mayo and Roscommon we dropped deeper to defend the lead late on and stopped pressuring the ball further out the pitch. This is a natural reaction of many teams when defending a lead, but it's counter-productive.
While we do have greater numbers back, it essentially gifts possession to the opposition and affords them lots of time to pick a pass inside.
This puts a lot of pressure on the backline. It also means we'll struggle to win any longer kickouts as we have fewer numbers in the middle to pick up breaks. This happened on Sunday and also against Mayo at the end. We end up facing attack after attack and it's inevitable that these will lead to scores as defences are more tired late on.
We need to keep pressuring the ball further up the pitch and not retreat if we had a lead late in the game. This makes the task much easier for the backline."
Yes but there's no point being anywhere on the pitch unless you put in effective tackles on the players in possession. Too often I saw Galway players marking space for the sake of it or running alongside Roscommon players in possession who were getting ready to give a pass inside or take a score without a single tackle going in. Dublin or Kerry would not do that in similar circumstances. You have to "get in their faces" as Ciaran Whelan was saying on TSG.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 2735 - 31/05/2022 13:58:19    2421385

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