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I suppose when you see Patrick mcbrearty at midfield for the throw up you know you're missing something. Charles mcguinness and the likes of kieran gallagher add the physical presence needed to naomh conaill. Kilcar are missing a few big men to play off. They probably should have went for it more in the first half and a little to cautious. The wind was a big factor and they needed to be ahead at half time.
Naomh conaill managed the clock excellently in the first half and must have been delighted too see only one minute of injury time. In the third quarter they really ratcheted up the intensity and unlike kilcar in the first half were not afraid to launch it in. The only thing that might concern them is that they should have put the game completely to bed.
Michael hegarty made a big difference to kilcar when he came on adding composure and not panicing on the the ball. It's a credit to him to be still be a difference maker at 40+. The kick in for the mcbrearty square ball was a super ball in, it just needed to be from play and not a free. If you're looking for a hail Mary goal at the end the ball in from an angle, like a cross in soccer is much better than a kick in from out the field.
I wouldn't completely rule out st eunans in the final. NC will be raging hot favorites and will have no chip on their shoulder angle this time. They will just be expected to win pretty well and it might be a challenge to get to the right pitch for the game. After the last few years st eunans should have plenty motivation. They have played to their system irrespective of opposition and that will help against NC.
Hope mccumaill park will be ok for the final. It took a lot of damage on Saturday. With all the rain in donegal it really does need a resurface. It must be the last natural field pitch in the county. St eunans pitch in fairness was in great shape.
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Naomh Conal can't take st eunans for granted. They met in last two semis I think. In 2019 Shaun Patton had a chance with the last kick to take it to extra time, last year an extra time controversial goal win it for n Conal. So there's little between the teams, eunans are young and n Conal experienced so I expect it to go the wire.
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Replying To Ulsterchamps_32: "I suppose when you see Patrick mcbrearty at midfield for the throw up you know you're missing something. Charles mcguinness and the likes of kieran gallagher add the physical presence needed to naomh conaill. Kilcar are missing a few big men to play off. They probably should have went for it more in the first half and a little to cautious. The wind was a big factor and they needed to be ahead at half time.
Naomh conaill managed the clock excellently in the first half and must have been delighted too see only one minute of injury time. In the third quarter they really ratcheted up the intensity and unlike kilcar in the first half were not afraid to launch it in. The only thing that might concern them is that they should have put the game completely to bed.
Michael hegarty made a big difference to kilcar when he came on adding composure and not panicing on the the ball. It's a credit to him to be still be a difference maker at 40+. The kick in for the mcbrearty square ball was a super ball in, it just needed to be from play and not a free. If you're looking for a hail Mary goal at the end the ball in from an angle, like a cross in soccer is much better than a kick in from out the field.
I wouldn't completely rule out st eunans in the final. NC will be raging hot favorites and will have no chip on their shoulder angle this time. They will just be expected to win pretty well and it might be a challenge to get to the right pitch for the game. After the last few years st eunans should have plenty motivation. They have played to their system irrespective of opposition and that will help against NC.
Hope mccumaill park will be ok for the final. It took a lot of damage on Saturday. With all the rain in donegal it really does need a resurface. It must be the last natural field pitch in the county. St eunans pitch in fairness was in great shape." Hi Ulsterchamps_32: There's a school of thought floating around that St Eunans have been holding back in the championship, giving different players games, changing the team around, leaving main players on the bench and only introducing them if needed, no wild urgency against some of the teams they know they will beat, everything being played down. I don't really subscribe to it myself but if it's a plan it's definitely working.
AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 648 - 25/10/2021 11:33:31
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Replying To thelowball: "Declan Bonner has finally come out of the shadows and is concerned only about what he terms 'nameless and faceless ' posters on social media that did not agree with his re appointment as Donegal manager. Really Bonner! Nothing about the Donegal plan going forward, the donegal championship or anyone that has come to the fore to help the ailing Donegal show going forward.The big four supposedly in the county might not be as such, with Gweedore gone, 14 man st Nauls running st Eunan's close. St Michael's can take Eunan's scalp, with Kilcar to beat N Conal and take it all.Naomh Columba to prevail at intermediate where Aaron Doherty continues to light it up , oh of course Bonner doesn't want to know about him." Your some expert must follow your tips from now on lol. What have you to say for yourself .
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 25/10/2021 13:01:05
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Replying To AudiMan: "Hi Ulsterchamps_32: There's a school of thought floating around that St Eunans have been holding back in the championship, giving different players games, changing the team around, leaving main players on the bench and only introducing them if needed, no wild urgency against some of the teams they know they will beat, everything being played down. I don't really subscribe to it myself but if it's a plan it's definitely working." The first half against the kilcar was excellent. Since that I'm not sure what's going on. Looks very pedestrian.
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Replying To MuckrossHead: "You may well be right, we'll know soon enough." Not surprising McGuinness got man of the match, Kilcar couldn't match hi physically even when bringing 40 year old McShane on at the end he still managed to tap a high ball in over the car.
Kilcar has some fantastic footballers but lack enough big men to win at this time of year.
Stephen McBrearty was excellent in the first half while Paddy tried his best to bring Kilcar back into it at the end. The McClean's and the McHugh's were kept quiet.
Good luck to both teams in the final, the way Glenties set up I can't see it being a great spectacle but they won't care if they win.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 801 - 26/10/2021 07:34:12
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Replying To Ulsterchamps_32: "I suppose when you see Patrick mcbrearty at midfield for the throw up you know you're missing something. Charles mcguinness and the likes of kieran gallagher add the physical presence needed to naomh conaill. Kilcar are missing a few big men to play off. They probably should have went for it more in the first half and a little to cautious. The wind was a big factor and they needed to be ahead at half time.
Naomh conaill managed the clock excellently in the first half and must have been delighted too see only one minute of injury time. In the third quarter they really ratcheted up the intensity and unlike kilcar in the first half were not afraid to launch it in. The only thing that might concern them is that they should have put the game completely to bed.
Michael hegarty made a big difference to kilcar when he came on adding composure and not panicing on the the ball. It's a credit to him to be still be a difference maker at 40+. The kick in for the mcbrearty square ball was a super ball in, it just needed to be from play and not a free. If you're looking for a hail Mary goal at the end the ball in from an angle, like a cross in soccer is much better than a kick in from out the field.
I wouldn't completely rule out st eunans in the final. NC will be raging hot favorites and will have no chip on their shoulder angle this time. They will just be expected to win pretty well and it might be a challenge to get to the right pitch for the game. After the last few years st eunans should have plenty motivation. They have played to their system irrespective of opposition and that will help against NC.
Hope mccumaill park will be ok for the final. It took a lot of damage on Saturday. With all the rain in donegal it really does need a resurface. It must be the last natural field pitch in the county. St eunans pitch in fairness was in great shape." Michael Hegarty's point was sheer class. Dropped the left shoulder, let his man take the bait and went around him on the right before kicking over.
How many others would have, when faced with a defender, turned back and looked for help? Why are coaches not looking at this and coaching players to do this?
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Replying To Newman21: "Michael Hegarty's point was sheer class. Dropped the left shoulder, let his man take the bait and went around him on the right before kicking over.
How many others would have, when faced with a defender, turned back and looked for help? Why are coaches not looking at this and coaching players to do this?" Hegarty got lucky that time in that there was space after beating one man, and he slotted it over the bar. But most of the time there is two, three to beat, and no forward is going to go into that, lose the ball and get abused by his own team mates for losing possession.
But i take you point, eunan doherty ran direct a few times and it opens up space by running direct, which creates space for others as he draws in men and creates panic. but he has speed and strength and can take a hit. For me, he should be starting for donegal, is he any different to mcgeary of tryone, small, but strong, fast and brave, and works hard.
This is my point with donegal, bonner is picking to many nice tidy footballers, but you need your work horses also, the guys willing to do the less attractive stuff.
That was the difference between naomh conaill and kilcar, we have a great mixture of experience and youth, between good footballers and work horses.
A defender's first job is be a defender, every thing he does after that is a bonus, bonner needs to get that sorted first, as donegal are far to open.
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Replying To The keeper: "Hegarty got lucky that time in that there was space after beating one man, and he slotted it over the bar. But most of the time there is two, three to beat, and no forward is going to go into that, lose the ball and get abused by his own team mates for losing possession.
But i take you point, eunan doherty ran direct a few times and it opens up space by running direct, which creates space for others as he draws in men and creates panic. but he has speed and strength and can take a hit. For me, he should be starting for donegal, is he any different to mcgeary of tryone, small, but strong, fast and brave, and works hard.
This is my point with donegal, bonner is picking to many nice tidy footballers, but you need your work horses also, the guys willing to do the less attractive stuff.
That was the difference between naomh conaill and kilcar, we have a great mixture of experience and youth, between good footballers and work horses.
A defender's first job is be a defender, every thing he does after that is a bonus, bonner needs to get that sorted first, as donegal are far to open." " it opens up space by running direct, which creates space for others as he draws in men"
This is exactly what I'm getting at - you hear the mantra at training. "Don't carry the ball into contact" - but by carrying the ball into contact you commit the defender, sometimes two, opening up space for others to give the pass to.
Another one is "don't go down the middle into traffic" but scores won't come from the corner flag.
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I see the Eunans chairman on his weekly podcast talking shop was asked about dual players and he said he would rather not comment on it. Obviously there was an issue a few weeks ago and the rumours are true after hearing that.
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Lads - have been offline for a few weeks - can anyone help me out with what has happened to the donegal forum- I can't see to access it anymore ??
eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1595 - 28/10/2021 20:03:02
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Replying To eunans4ever: "Lads - have been offline for a few weeks - can anyone help me out with what has happened to the donegal forum- I can't see to access it anymore ??" E4E - they removed all county forums a few weeks back (bar 1 or 2 for some reason, e.g. Cavan) - bad decision in my opinion.
LetterkennyMan (Donegal) - Posts: 393 - 29/10/2021 11:19:25
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Replying To eunans4ever: "Lads - have been offline for a few weeks - can anyone help me out with what has happened to the donegal forum- I can't see to access it anymore ??" Hi eunans4ever: You have been found. How are youse fixed for the final, will the hurlers be on the pitch or on the ditch.
AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 648 - 29/10/2021 16:30:19
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Replying To ryan: "I see the Eunans chairman on his weekly podcast talking shop was asked about dual players and he said he would rather not comment on it. Obviously there was an issue a few weeks ago and the rumours are true after hearing that." What issue? As in players not committing to a code? I know Sligo have had an issue recently with some dual players from the Coolera club preferring hurling.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 29/10/2021 16:43:30
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Chairman was off playing in the Masters where there is a prize for everybody in the audience.Great to see what it meant to St Eunans think it will be their only senior title though.Hopefully he will have made his way back think their was 4 or 5 pitstops on the way back.
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I see the bookies have NC as odds on favs and I agree with them, can't see Eunans matching them for power and they will likely have to play against 15 men this time unlike their previous 2 games, the game's live on TG4 too so if it's an oul wet day forecast think I'll sit at the fire and watch it. NC by 4 or 5 points.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2748 - 01/11/2021 18:35:47
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Wont be much in it but on form you'd have to expect Naomh Conaill to shade it by a couple of points.
I see that it's €20 for the county final. Disgraceful, could cost some families €100 to get to a county final. I don't know who sets these prices but they need to take a long hard look at themselves.
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Replying To Samsforthehills: "Wont be much in it but on form you'd have to expect Naomh Conaill to shade it by a couple of points.
I see that it's €20 for the county final. Disgraceful, could cost some families €100 to get to a county final. I don't know who sets these prices but they need to take a long hard look at themselves." €20 in Galway for a semi final this Saturday and then another €20 in again on Sunday.
CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 487 - 03/11/2021 11:06:14
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Replying To CillTormoir: "€20 in Galway for a semi final this Saturday and then another €20 in again on Sunday." That's shocking.
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Replying To Samsforthehills: "Wont be much in it but on form you'd have to expect Naomh Conaill to shade it by a couple of points.
I see that it's €20 for the county final. Disgraceful, could cost some families €100 to get to a county final. I don't know who sets these prices but they need to take a long hard look at themselves." Everybody has been affected financially by the pandemic, except the GAA who got a nice 'little' support package of 15 million from the Government yet they insist on charging these exorbitant entry fees into games.
They are so much out of touch with the grassroots it's frightening.
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