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Replying To midlands:  "Yes, it's nice to see, Bettyboo, but this is not at all unusual. For instance, since 2001 Garrycastle won six of their eight county titles with completely home-grown panels, as well as their Leinster title in 2011. I may be mistaken, but I think Tyrrellspass, The Downs and maybe others have also won senior championships this century with completely home-grown panels."
Don't think Shamrocks had any outsiders on their teams in '18, '12 or even 2000. Castledaly might have had one in 2008. Not sure what point the initial poster was trying to make.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 19/10/2021 17:33:34    2386327

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Replying To midlands:  "Yes, it's nice to see, Bettyboo, but this is not at all unusual. For instance, since 2001 Garrycastle won six of their eight county titles with completely home-grown panels, as well as their Leinster title in 2011. I may be mistaken, but I think Tyrrellspass, The Downs and maybe others have also won senior championships this century with completely home-grown panels."
I suppose that depends on what the definition of home grown is. Clubs in Westmeath seem to get players from outside what would be considered to be their catchment area.

iarmhi_an_mhaith (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 19/10/2021 17:58:16    2386331

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Replying To jamsie:  "Don't think Shamrocks had any outsiders on their teams in '18, '12 or even 2000. Castledaly might have had one in 2008. Not sure what point the initial poster was trying to make."
Just trying to stir up the usual because Loman's have a couple of lads who joined them when they moved to the town and did not join his club

Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 232 - 19/10/2021 18:36:07    2386340

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Replying To soreknee:  "Not really how it works im afraid. Killucan beat Moate yet were hammered by Shamrocks. Shamrocks were there on merit but wont last long in the top tier."
I know how it works but in the spirit of championship football as moate and caulry both beat shams (and caulry beat them easily) then they should of qualified before Shams. I can't justify that Shams finished 1st in that group - this points difference is not correct for this case. To me as all finished on 6 points then it should of being judged on a total of all the head to heads with these 3 teams. 3 matches then - Caulry on 3 Pts, Moate on 3 pts and Shams on 0 pts - sounds right. Some other sport does it this way (perhaps champions league) and it is the correct way.

Captainfantastic (Westmeath) - Posts: 44 - 19/10/2021 18:47:00    2386341

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Replying To Bettyboo22:  "it is Lovely to see Clubs like Caulry , the Downs and Kinnegad that their players have played from underage all the way up to Senior doing well ."
Are you suggesting that some clubs are importing in finished players as a policy? I dont think this is happening in WH. Maybe in Dublin.

Captainfantastic (Westmeath) - Posts: 44 - 19/10/2021 18:54:00    2386343

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A not so subtle dig I'd imagine at St. Loman's. As far as I can make out from last Saturday's match vs Caulry, Loman's only had Peter Foy as a starter who hadn't come through their underage ranks. Even he might not have started had either Sean Flanagan or Fionn O' Hara been available.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 19/10/2021 20:27:05    2386356

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "A not so subtle dig I'd imagine at St. Loman's. As far as I can make out from last Saturday's match vs Caulry, Loman's only had Peter Foy as a starter who hadn't come through their underage ranks. Even he might not have started had either Sean Flanagan or Fionn O' Hara been available."
I don't think Heslin or Casey are Lomans since day one either Claretandblue - but fair play to Loman's for being proactive and actively recruiting throughout the years. Moate are another club that are great at their recruitment, was it 3 of their starting 15 this year that were players transferred in in recent years?

trueblue2002 (Westmeath) - Posts: 2 - 20/10/2021 09:41:19    2386364

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Replying To trueblue2002:  "I don't think Heslin or Casey are Lomans since day one either Claretandblue - but fair play to Loman's for being proactive and actively recruiting throughout the years. Moate are another club that are great at their recruitment, was it 3 of their starting 15 this year that were players transferred in in recent years?"
Ah come on. Heslin might have been with Shamrocks when he was 8 or 9 years old. No longer than that. He is very much a product of Lomans underage.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 20/10/2021 11:41:47    2386399

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Replying To jamsie:  "Ah come on. Heslin might have been with Shamrocks when he was 8 or 9 years old. No longer than that. He is very much a product of Lomans underage."
john is defo Lomans from underage up great to see young lads coming through ftom underage

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 20/10/2021 12:25:41    2386411

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All 15 of Garrycastle's starters plus 3 of their 4 subs on Sunday were from their underage setup too as far as I can see.

anon (None) - Posts: 353 - 20/10/2021 12:27:34    2386414

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When Athlone and the Downs were at the top, their teams were like the united nations.

Icehouse (Westmeath) - Posts: 79 - 20/10/2021 13:44:41    2386433

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Replying To anon:  "All 15 of Garrycastle's starters plus 3 of their 4 subs on Sunday were from their underage setup too as far as I can see."
Love to see it from the underage up it's real good community spirit to a team

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 20/10/2021 15:02:28    2386457

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Replying To Icehouse:  "When Athlone and the Downs were at the top, their teams were like the united nations."
isn't that great to see that the lads have came all the way from underage up to Senior thats what it's all about

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 20/10/2021 15:08:10    2386461

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Replying To Bettyboo22:  "john is defo Lomans from underage up great to see young lads coming through ftom underage"
I suppose that begs the question how he ended up in their underage in the first place. If I'm not mistaken he is from near Loughnavalley, so does he have some other connection to Lomans?
Not just him in fairness, loads of situations like that in the county.

iarmhi_an_mhaith (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 20/10/2021 17:16:14    2386494

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "A not so subtle dig I'd imagine at St. Loman's. As far as I can make out from last Saturday's match vs Caulry, Loman's only had Peter Foy as a starter who hadn't come through their underage ranks. Even he might not have started had either Sean Flanagan or Fionn O' Hara been available."
This year St Loman's introduced two of last years minors onto their first team and five more are starting on their second team, Caulry started two of last years minors as well last Saturday ,Kinnegad similar

Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 232 - 20/10/2021 18:32:16    2386520

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Replying To anon:  "All 15 of Garrycastle's starters plus 3 of their 4 subs on Sunday were from their underage setup too as far as I can see."
A new face on the Garrycastle team Sunday, or maybe just new to me, no 17, Billy Kelly! Has he been around for a while?

Lomansabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 22 - 20/10/2021 19:37:22    2386535

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Ahh lads can we get back to the topic of the championship.
2 good semi finals to look forward to, both will be close.
You would expect the experience of Lomans & garrycastle to see them through.
But Kinnegad will not fear Lomans one bit & will have a right go at them, Lomans have only been average all year but if Heslin hits any sort of form they should go through to their 7th final in a row i think it is.
Garrycastle looked impressive against a poor Shamrocks side with James Dolan pulling the strings up front. The Downs will be coming into this without a competitive game in about 6 weeks & wont be helped with fact that they have alot of lads on hurling duty with Clonkill. Garrycastle lost to Downs in their last two matches by a point in games they should have won with ease. As another poster has said its pure youth versus experience & the latter will probably just shade it.

Left Full (Westmeath) - Posts: 239 - 21/10/2021 08:42:05    2386557

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Replying To Lomansabu:  "A new face on the Garrycastle team Sunday, or maybe just new to me, no 17, Billy Kelly! Has he been around for a while?"
Yeah, Bill was a very promising underage player with Garrycastle. He has been playing Junior mostly since he left the underage scene a few years ago, but he has had a number of games in Division1 league. He seems to be going well this year and fulfilling all his underage promise.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 542 - 21/10/2021 10:44:01    2386582

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Replying To Lomansabu:  "A new face on the Garrycastle team Sunday, or maybe just new to me, no 17, Billy Kelly! Has he been around for a while?"
Bill Kelly is a young lad who has been playing junior the last few years before breaking into their senior team this year

borisdblade (Westmeath) - Posts: 55 - 21/10/2021 11:01:13    2386589

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Replying To Thechick:  "This year St Loman's introduced two of last years minors onto their first team and five more are starting on their second team, Caulry started two of last years minors as well last Saturday ,Kinnegad similar"
it's great for the young lads and even better fir the clubs they have no fear young lads

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 21/10/2021 14:07:54    2386642

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