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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "A lot harder than it looks."
It is. I had to play it in school until I was 14 then I had the option of rowing which I took up to keep fit for the rugby. The main problem with cricket was maintaining focus and concentration all day when basically very little was happening. No smartphones in the 80s to keep you occupied while the other 10 lads were batting and I usually didn't last that long when or even if I did get to bat. And when I wasn't bowling fielding for hours for what felt like a whole half week, out miles away from the next player to you while you might touch the ball once every 15 or 20 minutes was excruciatingly boring for a lad between 8 and 14 years of age. And tiring because there was no lift from it. The school had lads like David Gower before I went there and a number of other lads made it in professional cricket before and since I went there also but the concentration and patience required for endless hours was way beyond me.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5742 - 19/08/2022 11:26:10    2437993

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Replying To Viking66:  "It is. I had to play it in school until I was 14 then I had the option of rowing which I took up to keep fit for the rugby. The main problem with cricket was maintaining focus and concentration all day when basically very little was happening. No smartphones in the 80s to keep you occupied while the other 10 lads were batting and I usually didn't last that long when or even if I did get to bat. And when I wasn't bowling fielding for hours for what felt like a whole half week, out miles away from the next player to you while you might touch the ball once every 15 or 20 minutes was excruciatingly boring for a lad between 8 and 14 years of age. And tiring because there was no lift from it. The school had lads like David Gower before I went there and a number of other lads made it in professional cricket before and since I went there also but the concentration and patience required for endless hours was way beyond me."
It is not a game I would be rushing for my young lads to be playing. It is good when you are at the crease, or bowling.
Otherwise it is as you describe it. The best part about it in Australia was that there was always a good drinking session afterwards, a game was rarely cancelled because of rain and it was a good way to get to know Australians.
I know some people who play it in this country. Sitting in a club house, waiting for rain to stop to play 10 overs. Not for me.
Back to Wexford football. Sorry for the tangent.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 370 - 19/08/2022 13:32:27    2438024

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wonder have the injuries cleared up with gusserane?

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2422 - 20/08/2022 13:35:10    2438112

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OK folks football championship starts at the weekend
Predictions
Senior - I recon its one from Shels, Starlights or Castletown. I'm going for Shels to retain their title.
Intermediate - my top 4 here are Fethard, Horeswood, Ferns and Taghmon. Three of these teams have had great hurling championships so its a question of whether this serves as momentum or a hangover. Honestly think Ferns have a shot here - if they actually concentrate on football.
Inter A - top 3 are Rosslare, Cloughbawn and Kilmore. I think Kilmore might get over the line this year.

Any Thoughts?

indaknownow (Offaly) - Posts: 100 - 23/08/2022 09:14:01    2438329

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Senior Shels with o gara been a huge plus

Intermediate Horeswood PJ, Myler, Noland and Murphy will be too much to handle

Inter A Rosslare to bounce back up

lefty (Wexford) - Posts: 127 - 23/08/2022 10:40:54    2438354

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Replying To indaknownow:  "OK folks football championship starts at the weekend
Predictions
Senior - I recon its one from Shels, Starlights or Castletown. I'm going for Shels to retain their title.
Intermediate - my top 4 here are Fethard, Horeswood, Ferns and Taghmon. Three of these teams have had great hurling championships so its a question of whether this serves as momentum or a hangover. Honestly think Ferns have a shot here - if they actually concentrate on football.
Inter A - top 3 are Rosslare, Cloughbawn and Kilmore. I think Kilmore might get over the line this year.

Any Thoughts?"
Hard to see past Shels for Senior although until we see how the 1st couple of rounds go it's hard to assess who will challenge them. Depends who is travelling too.
Intermediate will be the usual dogfight I'd say. I wouldn't have Ferns as 1 of my favourites to go up tbh. They do have a chance obviously but of the Gorey district sides I think Gorey will be closest. Obviously I'm not going to tip anyone other than Taghmon but if we don't win it I feel the winners will be from Ross District.
So Shels and Taghmon. And Cloughbawn for Inter A.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5742 - 23/08/2022 10:44:37    2438355

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Replying To Viking66:  "Hard to see past Shels for Senior although until we see how the 1st couple of rounds go it's hard to assess who will challenge them. Depends who is travelling too.
Intermediate will be the usual dogfight I'd say. I wouldn't have Ferns as 1 of my favourites to go up tbh. They do have a chance obviously but of the Gorey district sides I think Gorey will be closest. Obviously I'm not going to tip anyone other than Taghmon but if we don't win it I feel the winners will be from Ross District.
So Shels and Taghmon. And Cloughbawn for Inter A."
Defo agree with the Shels, hard see them bet. If Ferns go full pelt at football, id place them as fav's along with the Woodies. Don't think Cloughbawn will be near Adamstown or Rosslare will they?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 263 - 23/08/2022 16:16:48    2438445

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is jason ryan over glynn footballers this year? he was only over the hurlers last year, if he is he will be going for a hat trick after winning championships with clongeen and taghmon! clongeen taghmon and glynn have such a deep and undying love for each other [not]

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2422 - 23/08/2022 16:34:30    2438448

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Defo agree with the Shels, hard see them bet. If Ferns go full pelt at football, id place them as fav's along with the Woodies. Don't think Cloughbawn will be near Adamstown or Rosslare will they?"
Just fancy Cloughbawn this year. They might have a bit of an incentive after the hurling. Not sure where Adamstown are at tbh. Rosslare will be looking to bounce back.
Yes for sure if you were picking a club to back at Intermediate at the bookies I think Horeswood would be ahead of everyone else. After them there are probably a half dozen teams around the same level. Still think Taghmon will go well this year. Been knocked out by the eventual winners the last 3 years in a row.
So head and gut both say Shels for Senior, head Horeswood gut Taghmon for Intermediate, and have a gut feeling Cloughbawn will win Inter A.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5742 - 23/08/2022 17:04:34    2438452

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Its kinda hard to know what way these championships will go with a lot of teams missing some crucial players through travel, injury, recovery from hurling championships etc etc.

For example Crossabeg Balymurn are without their first choice midfield and with them i thought they would make a good run at the championship. Sarsfields without Chin might struggle as he has been their most influential player for years now.

Hard to see past Shels to be fair for senior but i think Intermediate could be very interesting. Looking at the league results Horeswood were head and shoulders above everyone else but how does going deep in the hurling affect them, likewise with Ferns and Taghmon. Ballyhogue and Clongeen to a lesser extent. I think Intermediate could be very competitive with a possible bolter coming out of the pack maybe!

Has anyone heard of any other clubs missing players in senior/intermediate?

As an aside its great to see Rathnure and Oulart back at the big ball this evening in Junior B football and a great gesture to promote the game as a fundraiser for "future for Fiadh", wll done to both clubs on the gesture.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1006 - 24/08/2022 15:56:10    2438579

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Replying To tearintom:  "Its kinda hard to know what way these championships will go with a lot of teams missing some crucial players through travel, injury, recovery from hurling championships etc etc.

For example Crossabeg Balymurn are without their first choice midfield and with them i thought they would make a good run at the championship. Sarsfields without Chin might struggle as he has been their most influential player for years now.

Hard to see past Shels to be fair for senior but i think Intermediate could be very interesting. Looking at the league results Horeswood were head and shoulders above everyone else but how does going deep in the hurling affect them, likewise with Ferns and Taghmon. Ballyhogue and Clongeen to a lesser extent. I think Intermediate could be very competitive with a possible bolter coming out of the pack maybe!

Has anyone heard of any other clubs missing players in senior/intermediate?

As an aside its great to see Rathnure and Oulart back at the big ball this evening in Junior B football and a great gesture to promote the game as a fundraiser for "future for Fiadh", wll done to both clubs on the gesture."
Oulart winning comfortably at the minute.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5742 - 24/08/2022 21:12:17    2438611

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I'm not buying the assertion in the paper this week that Shels will be this all-conquering team now they got O'Gara. Yeah they are justified favourites, but it's notoriously difficult to go back-to-back, and I feel there is a revisionism about how good O'Gara actually is. Seven All-Ireland medals, but on the face of it, he started only two of those games (2013 and 2017), getting taking off at HT in the latter. Very much a bit-part player otherwise. I recall him having discipline issues as well.

Apart from Horeswood retaining in 2006, Castletown are the only club to feature in consecutive finals since then, and while I don't foresee Shels struggling to get out of their group or anything like that, they will have a huge target on their backs every day. Their running game is more energy-sapping too, and I wouldn't read anything into their league final win either. Rathnure won the hurling one after all, and I can't remember such a big deal made about a team winning that competition before.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1229 - 25/08/2022 10:19:39    2438627

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Replying To beano:  "I'm not buying the assertion in the paper this week that Shels will be this all-conquering team now they got O'Gara. Yeah they are justified favourites, but it's notoriously difficult to go back-to-back, and I feel there is a revisionism about how good O'Gara actually is. Seven All-Ireland medals, but on the face of it, he started only two of those games (2013 and 2017), getting taking off at HT in the latter. Very much a bit-part player otherwise. I recall him having discipline issues as well.

Apart from Horeswood retaining in 2006, Castletown are the only club to feature in consecutive finals since then, and while I don't foresee Shels struggling to get out of their group or anything like that, they will have a huge target on their backs every day. Their running game is more energy-sapping too, and I wouldn't read anything into their league final win either. Rathnure won the hurling one after all, and I can't remember such a big deal made about a team winning that competition before."
"Bit part player" in possibly the best team of all time - I think he'll be good enough for Wexford football. At least he has genuine reason for transferring into the Shel's too - unlike the majority of imports into Castletown including their best forward in the last few campaigns.

grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 84 - 25/08/2022 10:30:49    2438628

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Replying To grassroots01:  ""Bit part player" in possibly the best team of all time - I think he'll be good enough for Wexford football. At least he has genuine reason for transferring into the Shel's too - unlike the majority of imports into Castletown including their best forward in the last few campaigns."
In terms of his combined minutes in their showpiece events (i.e not Leinster championship cakewalks), then yes he should be regarded as a bit-part player. Second coming of Matty now all of a sudden. I won't even be drawn into your cheap-shot that followed as I didn't once question the validity of the transfer.

Anyway, senior previews.

St.James vs. Glynn-Barntown: can Jason Ryan work the oracle again? It could be argued, on solid ground, that Glynn's second and third teams have out-performed their senior sides in recent years. Apart from making the junior final and winning junior B hurling this year, their second-string footballers had back-to-back promotions too. Meanwhile, they have largely flattered to deceive at the top table, and I don't know if they are contenders even if Ryan instills confidence. St.James' are one of those teams that are always floating around and firmly in the mid-table bracket. If this was a knock-out tie, I'd 100% tip Jimmies, but maybe Glynn will shade this one.

HWH-Bunclody vs. Castletown: Bunclody really should have won this fixture last year, and that will surely be fresh in their minds again. In the short-term, Castletown will be without Brosnan (one-game ban) and Coleman (injury), and their losses are significant. Bunclody maximised a thin squad last year, but are short a few now, with John Dunne seemingly abroad which is a big blow as I thought he was excellent last year. They have a new manager as well, who in fairness got a tune unexpectedly out of Kilanerin last year. Castletown's new trainer, Paul Garrigan, seems to be very highly thought of, certainly in the Meath ladies football camp anyway, and will be looking to implement a new style of play. Mightn't be a classic, but tip Castletown to win.

Kilanerin vs. Gusserane: nevermind O'Gara, for me the biggest sub-plot of the whole championship is Timmy Walsh taking over Kilanerin after winning two senior titles with Castletown. It's the local GAA version of Klopp joining United! The man knows how to get results though, and has been handed good tools to give it a go. Their county men haven't even reached their peak, while they have a conveyor belt of good, first-year youngsters who most recently won an AI with Gorey CS. That crop of lads didn't win a minor title despite their talents though, and it's a massive step up. Ordinarily, Gusserane would be in the top four of the market, but seem to be decimated with injuries and other absentees (Conway as big a loss as the rest). On that basis, I give the nod to Kilanerin.

St.Martin's vs. St.Anne's: had Rory O'Connor been fit and available, I'd have St.Martin's as the nearest to Shelmaliers. In my opinion, he has been the best half-back in the championship the last two seasons, and arguably the best player full stop. However, the young lads that made a splash in their journey to the senior hurling final are all fine footballers too, particularly Joe Barrett (good enough to play county in either code) and Philip Dempsey. The retirement of Lyng will surely affect them in the long-run too. St.Anne's are probably too defensive to really challenge for the title, and if they let the shackles off a bit, they have the players to trouble some teams. Maybe still over reliant on the older fellas, however, and I just think Martin's will have too much for them despite Anne's surely fired up after the hurling controversy.

Crossabeg vs. Starlights: as someone mentioned earlier, if Crossabeg had everyone available to them from the team that sauntered to intermediate glory last year, they'd be well capable of bloodying noses. They couldn't have picked worse opponents than Starlights to play in their maiden appearance in senior however. Like Rapps, Starlights have their system down to a fine art, and will quietly go deep in the championship again. Darragh Pepper back fit is a boost (he showed that in the hurling semi-final), although conversely, Kevin Foley will be a big loss. The record of intermediate champions making an immediate splash in senior isn't as prevalent as it was about a decade ago (aside from Kilanerin getting to the final in 2018), and I can't see anything else than Starlights' experience getting the win.

Sarsfields vs. Shelmaliers: Chin will be a huge loss obviously if he doesn't play, but people forget he didn't play senior last year either, and Sarsfields coped okay. I seem to recall them winning a minor football title a few years ago now, and those lads have stepped up to senior since and lowered the average age of the side. Dylan Furlong is obviously a fine player and will only improve. I don't know the breakdown of the football clubs of the talented Faythe Harriers Feile winning team, but Darby Purcell will bring a bit of swagger up front and Richie Lawlor looks a good footballer from the bits I seen last year. After my earlier diatribe about Shels, there's no denying they are the team to beat, with all eyes on O'Gara. Shels will win this one, but might learn more about themselves next day out vs. St.James as they tend to keep it compact and have warriors.

If I was picking my four semi-finals before a ball is kicked, I would go: Shemaliers, Starlights, St.Martin's and maybe Castletown. It's amazing to think that the hurling has become a lot more unpredictable.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1229 - 25/08/2022 13:20:02    2438660

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Replying To beano:  "I'm not buying the assertion in the paper this week that Shels will be this all-conquering team now they got O'Gara. Yeah they are justified favourites, but it's notoriously difficult to go back-to-back, and I feel there is a revisionism about how good O'Gara actually is. Seven All-Ireland medals, but on the face of it, he started only two of those games (2013 and 2017), getting taking off at HT in the latter. Very much a bit-part player otherwise. I recall him having discipline issues as well.

Apart from Horeswood retaining in 2006, Castletown are the only club to feature in consecutive finals since then, and while I don't foresee Shels struggling to get out of their group or anything like that, they will have a huge target on their backs every day. Their running game is more energy-sapping too, and I wouldn't read anything into their league final win either. Rathnure won the hurling one after all, and I can't remember such a big deal made about a team winning that competition before."
From what I have heard he is injured so not playing Sunday - also a bit of chatter on a bunch of the younger players all off in Spain for the week,

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1493 - 26/08/2022 10:48:09    2438733

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Replying To beano:  "I'm not buying the assertion in the paper this week that Shels will be this all-conquering team now they got O'Gara. Yeah they are justified favourites, but it's notoriously difficult to go back-to-back, and I feel there is a revisionism about how good O'Gara actually is. Seven All-Ireland medals, but on the face of it, he started only two of those games (2013 and 2017), getting taking off at HT in the latter. Very much a bit-part player otherwise. I recall him having discipline issues as well.

Apart from Horeswood retaining in 2006, Castletown are the only club to feature in consecutive finals since then, and while I don't foresee Shels struggling to get out of their group or anything like that, they will have a huge target on their backs every day. Their running game is more energy-sapping too, and I wouldn't read anything into their league final win either. Rathnure won the hurling one after all, and I can't remember such a big deal made about a team winning that competition before."
Shels are favourites regardless of O'Gara. They have a fit settled team who won it out last year. From talking to 1 of their football only players in the gym O'Gara has added to that with his experience and football skills. I think you are being a little harsh with the bit part player jibe. That Dublin team were an excellent panel and he was an important part of it.
Yes Castletown will be good, but Gusseranes preparations have been hampered by injuries. Crossabeg are missing important players, while Martins are affected by retirements and injuries also.
Obviously any 1 of a number of teams might win it. I personally think Starlights might go well. But Shels are still deserved favourites this year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5742 - 26/08/2022 14:20:52    2438754

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was at glynn v st james, entertaining game but the standard was poor, it was very loose, very good pace to the game , glynn were poor, it looks like jason ryan is making no attempt to build a team there going with the old names who are well past their best with a few good young lads in subs who should be getting theis chance, thats the problem with clubs bring in lads like jason , no point in him building a team for the next manager after him, he will move on, james showed great spirit early in 2 the half glynn looked certain winners , they on top, was impressed with the lad they had midfield with o hanlon cant remember his name

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2422 - 27/08/2022 09:09:38    2438782

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was at glynn v st james, entertaining game but the standard was poor, it was very loose, very good pace to the game , glynn were poor, it looks like jason ryan is making no attempt to build a team there going with the old names who are well past their best with a few good young lads in subs who should be getting theis chance, thats the problem with clubs bring in lads like jason , no point in him building a team for the next manager after him, he will move on, james showed great spirit early in 2 the half glynn looked certain winners , they on top, was impressed with the lad they had midfield with o hanlon cant remember his name

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2422 - 27/08/2022 09:09:38    2438783

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was at glynn v james, entertaining stuff but the standard was dreadful, great pace to the game, glynn were very poor, jason ryan is not trying to build a team he going with a lot of players well past their best, while he as a lot of good young lads on the line, thats the danger of bring lads like jason in he wants instant success he is not going to build a team for the next lad , james showed great heart to get a win it looked like glynn had it in the bag for ages, very impressed with the james midfield partner of o hanlon [cant remember his name]

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2422 - 27/08/2022 09:27:21    2438787

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "was at glynn v james, entertaining stuff but the standard was dreadful, great pace to the game, glynn were very poor, jason ryan is not trying to build a team he going with a lot of players well past their best, while he as a lot of good young lads on the line, thats the danger of bring lads like jason in he wants instant success he is not going to build a team for the next lad , james showed great heart to get a win it looked like glynn had it in the bag for ages, very impressed with the james midfield partner of o hanlon [cant remember his name
"]I though he has been with them for a couple of years now?

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1493 - 27/08/2022 11:02:35    2438799

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