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Replying To yew_tree:  "I wouldn't be impressed with that second half from Mayo even if the game was over. I'd be worried about our full back line. We are wide open when run at down the middle. Better teams will punish us unless we tighten up.

Diarmuid O Connor and Matty Ruane very good. James Carr started slow but then hit 2-1. Hoping he can stay injury free. We have plenty of options up front but just need to tighten up. Thought Rory Byrne should have got a half in goal too. Anyway we play Clare in the semi final now."
O Shea will offer solidity an physicality if Horan deploys him in between the half back line and midfield.

Think Mayo have enough firepower upfront to be sending him anywhere further afield.

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 30/05/2021 15:59:24    2346544

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I wouldn't be impressed with that second half from Mayo even if the game was over. I'd be worried about our full back line. We are wide open when run at down the middle. Better teams will punish us unless we tighten up.

Diarmuid O Connor and Matty Ruane very good. James Carr started slow but then hit 2-1. Hoping he can stay injury free. We have plenty of options up front but just need to tighten up. Thought Rory Byrne should have got a half in goal too. Anyway we play Clare in the semi final now."
I wouldn't blame the full back line, all 3 actually played well IMO. It's just the way Horan sets up the team with everyone pushing forward trying to win turnovers. Great when it works out, but if the opposition beat the press they're straight into the full back line and it's very easy to create overlaps from there.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 414 - 30/05/2021 16:02:04    2346547

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mayo defence very poor against a bad forward line, O Mullen might be a good footballer but he is not a full back. Kerry or Dublin will cut through that defence,

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 404 - 30/05/2021 16:13:31    2346551

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I wouldn't be impressed with that second half from Mayo even if the game was over. I'd be worried about our full back line. We are wide open when run at down the middle. Better teams will punish us unless we tighten up.

Diarmuid O Connor and Matty Ruane very good. James Carr started slow but then hit 2-1. Hoping he can stay injury free. We have plenty of options up front but just need to tighten up. Thought Rory Byrne should have got a half in goal too. Anyway we play Clare in the semi final now."
Our backs all at sea in first half, Mayo did as they pleased, Keoghan made big difference when introduced and brought a bit of calm to that area. Mayo good value for win and have strength in depth, not many teams will get the better of them. Kildare v Meath in playoff is a 50/50 game. Any idea where games will be played?

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2136 - 30/05/2021 16:16:08    2346553

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "mayo defence very poor against a bad forward line, O Mullen might be a good footballer but he is not a full back. Kerry or Dublin will cut through that defence,"
Not one of our starting forwards actually played , so I wouldn't worry about it. Morris O'Sullivan and McMahon rested as is right

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/05/2021 17:10:45    2346585

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Replying To seadog54:  "Our backs all at sea in first half, Mayo did as they pleased, Keoghan made big difference when introduced and brought a bit of calm to that area. Mayo good value for win and have strength in depth, not many teams will get the better of them. Kildare v Meath in playoff is a 50/50 game. Any idea where games will be played?"
I think Mayo eases off second half. Our exposed defence aside I think Meath have a lot of work to do to get up to a level with the top 4/5 teams. Mayo just look fitter, bigger and stronger all over. That's not to say Meath can't get there. Bouncing back up to div 1 will be vital for your players development. Match v Kildare is probably 50/50 though? Mayo should have too much for Clare.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 30/05/2021 17:31:28    2346597

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I think Mayo eases off second half. Our exposed defence aside I think Meath have a lot of work to do to get up to a level with the top 4/5 teams. Mayo just look fitter, bigger and stronger all over. That's not to say Meath can't get there. Bouncing back up to div 1 will be vital for your players development. Match v Kildare is probably 50/50 though? Mayo should have too much for Clare."
Miles off top 4

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2136 - 30/05/2021 18:00:53    2346617

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I think Mayo eases off second half. Our exposed defence aside I think Meath have a lot of work to do to get up to a level with the top 4/5 teams. Mayo just look fitter, bigger and stronger all over. That's not to say Meath can't get there. Bouncing back up to div 1 will be vital for your players development. Match v Kildare is probably 50/50 though? Mayo should have too much for Clare."
Nearly all of them players with the exception of the full back line are panel players at best.
Starting line up didn't include
Colgan
Keoghan,
Mcentee
Devine/mcentee
Harnan
Jones
McMahon
Walsh
Newman
Morris
O'Sullivan

All of who will play v (if fit ) v Kildare.
We didn't field 11/12 first team starters. So honestly don't know how you can come up with they this that or other, today was a televised challenge match. And I'd be more worried about mayos ambition of all ire title (we have none) but they didn't show that much against a Meath b or c team that would've instilled confidence in me if I were a supporter that they anywhere near the standards of Dublin or Kerry.
I think when we field our strongest team v Kildare we will win with a few points to spare. It may be close but Andy did the right thing in not risking the good players in a meaningless game.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/05/2021 18:37:15    2346635

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "mayo defence very poor against a bad forward line, O Mullen might be a good footballer but he is not a full back. Kerry or Dublin will cut through that defence,"
Mayo's defence plays to their opponents level. It's nothing to worry about. They'll have crap performances against bad teams but do their job against good ones.

So long as were able to go to 70 minutes and not just 50 like last year we will be able to beat either team.

Sssthe (Mayo) - Posts: 57 - 30/05/2021 19:05:43    2346641

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Nearly all of them players with the exception of the full back line are panel players at best.
Starting line up didn't include
Colgan
Keoghan,
Mcentee
Devine/mcentee
Harnan
Jones
McMahon
Walsh
Newman
Morris
O'Sullivan

All of who will play v (if fit ) v Kildare.
We didn't field 11/12 first team starters. So honestly don't know how you can come up with they this that or other, today was a televised challenge match. And I'd be more worried about mayos ambition of all ire title (we have none) but they didn't show that much against a Meath b or c team that would've instilled confidence in me if I were a supporter that they anywhere near the standards of Dublin or Kerry.
I think when we field our strongest team v Kildare we will win with a few points to spare. It may be close but Andy did the right thing in not risking the good players in a meaningless game."
So it's a televised challenge match, yet teams are supposed to measure up against Dublin in it at the same time. Go figure that one out! You have a knack of speaking out both sides of your mouth lad

jackmeyhoffer (USA) - Posts: 148 - 30/05/2021 21:29:26    2346707

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Nearly all of them players with the exception of the full back line are panel players at best.
Starting line up didn't include
Colgan
Keoghan,
Mcentee
Devine/mcentee
Harnan
Jones
McMahon
Walsh
Newman
Morris
O'Sullivan

All of who will play v (if fit ) v Kildare.
We didn't field 11/12 first team starters. So honestly don't know how you can come up with they this that or other, today was a televised challenge match. And I'd be more worried about mayos ambition of all ire title (we have none) but they didn't show that much against a Meath b or c team that would've instilled confidence in me if I were a supporter that they anywhere near the standards of Dublin or Kerry.
I think when we field our strongest team v Kildare we will win with a few points to spare. It may be close but Andy did the right thing in not risking the good players in a meaningless game."
Calm down RD. We had 7 changes from the Westmeath game. I was not mocking Meath in any way.
Throw both full strength teams out and I back is to beat ye every time. As for all Ireland's yes that our aim but Mayo won't be winning one this year that's for sure.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 30/05/2021 22:08:27    2346722

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Really looking forward to the game at this stage. I know the outcome is of little importance. However a win against one of the big 4 (Dublin, Kerry , Mayo, Donegal) would do the world of good fora very young team."
Said earlier Meath wouldn't beat the top 4 in Ulster, I was wrong, they wouldn't beat the top 6.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 30/05/2021 23:01:17    2346750

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Nearly all of them players with the exception of the full back line are panel players at best.
Starting line up didn't include
Colgan
Keoghan,
Mcentee
Devine/mcentee
Harnan
Jones
McMahon
Walsh
Newman
Morris
O'Sullivan

All of who will play v (if fit ) v Kildare.
We didn't field 11/12 first team starters. So honestly don't know how you can come up with they this that or other, today was a televised challenge match. And I'd be more worried about mayos ambition of all ire title (we have none) but they didn't show that much against a Meath b or c team that would've instilled confidence in me if I were a supporter that they anywhere near the standards of Dublin or Kerry.
I think when we field our strongest team v Kildare we will win with a few points to spare. It may be close but Andy did the right thing in not risking the good players in a meaningless game."
Surely they'll easily take leinster with that sort of squad RD? Some squad!

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 561 - 31/05/2021 05:14:41    2346785

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Handy win for Mayo and in fairness Horan is great for experimenting against smaller counties..

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 31/05/2021 07:36:16    2346791

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Replying To achara:  "Surely they'll easily take leinster with that sort of squad RD? Some squad!"
Anything less would be a failure...

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 31/05/2021 10:41:14    2346823

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Replying To achara:  "Surely they'll easily take leinster with that sort of squad RD? Some squad!"
Nope. But then neither will the team we are replacing in division take ulster.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2021 12:02:51    2346881

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Said earlier Meath wouldn't beat the top 4 in Ulster, I was wrong, they wouldn't beat the top 6."
Ahh no one giving you attention?? If I were u I'd be traveling to Louth to beg Mickey to come back.
Ulster teams we would beat ? Cavan Monaghan, down , Antrim Fermanagh and of course Tyrone. Donegal definitely not. But then neither will any team in ulster. :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2021 12:05:13    2346885

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Calm down RD. We had 7 changes from the Westmeath game. I was not mocking Meath in any way.
Throw both full strength teams out and I back is to beat ye every time. As for all Ireland's yes that our aim but Mayo won't be winning one this year that's for sure."
I don't think every time. Yes 3 out of 5.
I encourage mayo to play the final and who knows. Both teams at full strength. Then we would know. But each have a game before that. And that is all that matters

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2021 12:07:17    2346888

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Replying To Belclare:  "Handy win for Mayo and in fairness Horan is great for experimenting against smaller counties.."
Haha. Enjoy division 2 next year.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2021 12:07:52    2346889

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Replying To Dubsfan28:  "Anything less would be a failure..."
How could a amateur team beat the night of Dublin Utd/city and all their money and professionalism in EVERY WAY ??

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2021 12:08:59    2346890

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