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Shock Results In Days Gone By - Even In The National League

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I love looking over old stats etc..came on this when looking back over National League results and structures from NHL 1983-4..I actually remember the commentary on Radio 1, it was nip and tuck and Laois stole a famous win from the two in a row All Ireland finalist appearances back then...2nd October 1983 - Laois 3-07 - Cork 1-11..played in Borris-in-ossary...a shock result at the time...anyone remember this game or similar shock result in the NHL..Limerick beat the then two in a row champions Kilkenny by 2-13 to 2-09 the same day...the Cork defeat was a bigger shock I would have thought from memory...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 17/02/2021 17:09:40    2331716

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I love looking over old stats etc..came on this when looking back over National League results and structures from NHL 1983-4..I actually remember the commentary on Radio 1, it was nip and tuck and Laois stole a famous win from the two in a row All Ireland finalist appearances back then...2nd October 1983 - Laois 3-07 - Cork 1-11..played in Borris-in-ossary...a shock result at the time...anyone remember this game or similar shock result in the NHL..Limerick beat the then two in a row champions Kilkenny by 2-13 to 2-09 the same day...the Cork defeat was a bigger shock I would have thought from memory..."
Kerry beat Clare by 2 points in first round of the NHL League in october 95. Clare were newly crowned AI champions.
Some of the Clare players were still drunk I think.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 708 - 17/02/2021 17:16:40    2331717

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Replying To ZUL10:  "Kerry beat Clare by 2 points in first round of the NHL League in october 95. Clare were newly crowned AI champions.
Some of the Clare players were still drunk I think."
Yeah I remember. The league started before Xmas that time and Kerry got promoted to div 1 for first time in my memory. Clare were all ireland Champs but were still celebrating. Still a great win for Kerry but they lost the rest of their games and straight back down. When I was a young lad Kerry hurlers drew with Kilkenny in Tralee one time also. Although it was only a league game there was alot of commotion in Kilkenny at the time.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3862 - 17/02/2021 17:26:50    2331719

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In 2011 london drew with mayo and the game had to go to extra time as a result where mayo won.

However since all bets are settled at the end of normal time I'd imagine it was the biggest upset of the bookies odds in the history of the gaa.

Sssthe (Mayo) - Posts: 59 - 17/02/2021 18:43:32    2331735

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Wesmeath had a handy team in the mid 80s and I remember them beating Galway in Loughrea in 86 I think. Would'nt have been that massive of a shock as they were playing in Division 1 on merit ,but to put it in context Galway went on to beat Clare in the League final in the spring and had contested the All Ireland final shortly beforehand. Dave Kilcoyne was the star man for Westmeath at that time and I think he might have had a brother playing as well

UtahBlaine (Galway) - Posts: 153 - 17/02/2021 19:22:48    2331740

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Replying To UtahBlaine:  "Wesmeath had a handy team in the mid 80s and I remember them beating Galway in Loughrea in 86 I think. Would'nt have been that massive of a shock as they were playing in Division 1 on merit ,but to put it in context Galway went on to beat Clare in the League final in the spring and had contested the All Ireland final shortly beforehand. Dave Kilcoyne was the star man for Westmeath at that time and I think he might have had a brother playing as well"
Was his brother Jim Kilcoyne?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6177 - 17/02/2021 19:45:26    2331745

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Replying To Sssthe:  "In 2011 london drew with mayo and the game had to go to extra time as a result where mayo won.

However since all bets are settled at the end of normal time I'd imagine it was the biggest upset of the bookies odds in the history of the gaa."
I remember that Mayo/London game, Mayo won in ET so while it was a shock upto that point, yes, it wasnt up there with shocks, as Mayo ultimately won anyway..Westmeath beating Galway in NHL around 1985-6 was a huge shock as Galway would have been All Ireland finalists too...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 17/02/2021 19:47:36    2331748

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Replying To UtahBlaine:  "Wesmeath had a handy team in the mid 80s and I remember them beating Galway in Loughrea in 86 I think. Would'nt have been that massive of a shock as they were playing in Division 1 on merit ,but to put it in context Galway went on to beat Clare in the League final in the spring and had contested the All Ireland final shortly beforehand. Dave Kilcoyne was the star man for Westmeath at that time and I think he might have had a brother playing as well"
I remember that game well, and I had to listen to the round up of the days results on then then radio sports programme to make sure it actually happened..Kilcoyne had a great year that time, hadnt he a brother too and there were a few hand hurlers from memory on that Westmeath team..Kilkenny pipped Westmeath 3-08 to 0-15 in Q/F after..scoring 4 more times and still loosing...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 17/02/2021 19:57:01    2331750

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yeah I remember. The league started before Xmas that time and Kerry got promoted to div 1 for first time in my memory. Clare were all ireland Champs but were still celebrating. Still a great win for Kerry but they lost the rest of their games and straight back down. When I was a young lad Kerry hurlers drew with Kilkenny in Tralee one time also. Although it was only a league game there was alot of commotion in Kilkenny at the time."
looked up that Kilkenny - Kerry game -10th Dec 1980..0-11 a piece in Tralee...now that was a shock even though it wasnt a win if you get my drift...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 17/02/2021 19:58:41    2331751

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There's an annual GAA book released each year in Cavan, "Breffni Blue".

Anyway. . .cavan were one win away from promotion back in the early 00s, with a 'handy' home game v Waterford to come. The Waterford players didn't even have a team bus. They drove up in their cars. They beat Cavan, I think by 2 points, and denied us promotion.

The Breffni Blue book had already gone to print and there were articles written in it about how great it was that we had been promoted. It really was seen as a mere formality.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5244 - 17/02/2021 20:36:18    2331760

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Was his brother Jim Kilcoyne?"
I thought he had a brother Michael. I think David Kilcoyne, who now plays for Ireland, is a son of one of them- but I am not 100% sure.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 17/02/2021 20:37:58    2331761

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Waterford beat Cavan in the final game of League game in 06,at Breffni. Cavan needed a win draw for promotion,so was a very poor result at the time.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/day-of-deise-disgrace-still-eats-away-at-cavan-26411455.html

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2872 - 17/02/2021 20:43:49    2331764

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Replying To cavanman47:  "There's an annual GAA book released each year in Cavan, "Breffni Blue".

Anyway. . .cavan were one win away from promotion back in the early 00s, with a 'handy' home game v Waterford to come. The Waterford players didn't even have a team bus. They drove up in their cars. They beat Cavan, I think by 2 points, and denied us promotion.

The Breffni Blue book had already gone to print and there were articles written in it about how great it was that we had been promoted. It really was seen as a mere formality."
The Breffni Blue book had already gone to print and there were articles written in it about how great it was that we had been promoted. It really was seen as a mere formality.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4352 - 17/02/2021 20:36:18

What a load of rubbish the breffni blue wouldnt have been out for 5 or 6 months after that game.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 883 - 17/02/2021 20:46:15    2331765

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "looked up that Kilkenny - Kerry game -10th Dec 1980..0-11 a piece in Tralee...now that was a shock even though it wasnt a win if you get my drift..."
I do indeed Fairplay lol.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3862 - 17/02/2021 21:00:23    2331768

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Replying To RHF:  "The Breffni Blue book had already gone to print and there were articles written in it about how great it was that we had been promoted. It really was seen as a mere formality.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4352 - 17/02/2021 20:36:18

What a load of rubbish the breffni blue wouldnt have been out for 5 or 6 months after that game."
Nowadays it's published at the end of the season, but back then (2006) it covered 2005/2006 and was released in April/May.

We lost to Waterford on April 9th.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5244 - 18/02/2021 00:04:20    2331801

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Louth beat Kerry in the league down in Killarney in 2000 a few weeks after Kerry won the All Ireland. Although Kerry only fielded a third of that team that won the All Ireland, this was the Wee County's first time playing in Division One in 30 years. It was Louth's only victory in the league that year and both them and Kerry were relegated. Louth beat Kerry a year later in Ardee to complete a two in a row victory over the Kingdom.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 1018 - 18/02/2021 11:17:59    2331829

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Louth beat Kerry in the league down in Killarney in 2000 a few weeks after Kerry won the All Ireland. Although Kerry only fielded a third of that team that won the All Ireland, this was the Wee County's first time playing in Division One in 30 years. It was Louth's only victory in the league that year and both them and Kerry were relegated. Louth beat Kerry a year later in Ardee to complete a two in a row victory over the Kingdom."
I had forgotten about that set of results until you menitoned them, but do remember them now, that is the type of shock results I refer to...post the scores of the two games if you have them, makes the posts more interesting..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 18/02/2021 12:15:07    2331841

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I had forgotten about that set of results until you menitoned them, but do remember them now, that is the type of shock results I refer to...post the scores of the two games if you have them, makes the posts more interesting.."
Killarney: Louth 1-12 Kerry 1-11
Ardee: Louth 1-18 Kerry 2-12

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 1018 - 18/02/2021 13:02:55    2331854

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Replying To cavanman47:  "There's an annual GAA book released each year in Cavan, "Breffni Blue".

Anyway. . .cavan were one win away from promotion back in the early 00s, with a 'handy' home game v Waterford to come. The Waterford players didn't even have a team bus. They drove up in their cars. They beat Cavan, I think by 2 points, and denied us promotion.

The Breffni Blue book had already gone to print and there were articles written in it about how great it was that we had been promoted. It really was seen as a mere formality."
That was Waterford's first ever victory in Ulster. History repeated itself two years later when they went up to Belfast and beat Antrim on the last day of the league and denied the Saffrons promotion.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 1018 - 18/02/2021 13:18:08    2331859

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October 1996 first round of the national football league division 2 - Leitrim 1-10 Dublin 0-10. Leitrim football was going well at that time, won connacht in 1994 and we were in division 2 for a good few years getting close to division 1 a few times. Stood beside a group of Dublin supporters who spent the whole match abusing Mickey Whelan, we can only dream of ever seeing days like that again.

JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 281 - 18/02/2021 13:28:09    2331861

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