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Replying To Galway9801:  "What I'm getting at is that at the moment crowds are bigger for the men's game,, and that the men generate more money,, this decision to merge means that more of the money they are generating will be siphoned away from them to promote their female counterparts. Its an important issue at a time when so many teams are questioning their own funding as it is. There's probably gonna be even less of it now.
I'm just stating that it seems to be a far better deal for the women than it is for men.
But it was voted in democratically so good luck to all involved."
That won't happen. Games development funding benefits both men and women already. I don't think your issue with women joining the GAA has anything to do with the money. What is your problem with promoting the women? Why shouldn't the GAA do that? Half the population are women.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 263 - 16/12/2020 22:13:33    2323029

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "That won't happen. Games development funding benefits both men and women already. I don't think your issue with women joining the GAA has anything to do with the money. What is your problem with promoting the women? Why shouldn't the GAA do that? Half the population are women."
I'm just saying that it seems to be a better deal for women than it is for the men. No harm in pointing that out.
Why not just de segregate the games anyway, and let all 3 genders play amongst one another? All of this controversy would be cleared up in a heartbeat.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 474 - 16/12/2020 23:06:42    2323040

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Replying To Galway9801:  "I'm just saying that it seems to be a better deal for women than it is for the men. No harm in pointing that out.
Why not just de segregate the games anyway, and let all 3 genders play amongst one another? All of this controversy would be cleared up in a heartbeat."
There is no controversy. It's just people like you who seem to have a problem with women playing our games.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 263 - 17/12/2020 12:21:30    2323110

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I'm just saying that it seems to be a better deal for women than it is for the men. No harm in pointing that out.
Why not just de segregate the games anyway, and let all 3 genders play amongst one another? All of this controversy would be cleared up in a heartbeat.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 93 - 16/12/2020 23:06:42
All 3 genders?
And the only one who seems to have a major issue with this is you. Some of your comments have been very sexist and unfair.

C Staunton is right. Shouldn't there just be one organisation in charge of men's and women's football, hurling and camogie?
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 817 - 08/12/2020 01:07:32
spot on doesnt make any sense at all to have 3 associations.

I'm ignorant of many of the inner workings of GAA administration and politics,, so correct me if I'm wrong,, but the girls and the lads coming under the one roof will surely eventually lead to a 50/50 dplit in terms of funding for the senior teams.
In this case the men will be the big losers,(especially at a time when more funding is required to remain competitive) , but most male GAA players seem on board with the idea so why not?
(again I'm mostly assuming,, correct me if I'm wrong)
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 93 - 15/12/2020 23:19:16
Men wouldnt be big losers at all. Everyone under one roof helps everyone from clubs, to players.

That's my query. The women will seemingly benefit from this far more than the men. Alot of the money that the men generate will from now on be diverted to looking after the women's teams,, mens teams are already looking for more funds as it is, they can kinda forget about it now.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 93 - 16/12/2020 14:28:57
Why would this change mean lot of money be diverted from mens game to womens teams?

A merger is a win win situation for all involved. The reality is that gaa clubs can't get people to run for administrative positions at County level. There's a 5 year rule for the main positions at County level and three years at national level and good people are always busy people. This would have happened when Liam O'Neil was president if the ladies association had been willing. Every organisation needs change and this could transform gaa games at club level if it goes ahead. There's too much focus on the County players in these discussions as 99% of the players are club players.
midfield9 (Westmeath) - Posts: 54 - 16/12/2020 15:32:46
There is lot of duplication of resources with separate associations/clubs when there isnt a need. A merger would still see a major focus on county players and the county game

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 2279 - 17/12/2020 13:33:34    2323135

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Replying To KillingFields:  "I'm just saying that it seems to be a better deal for women than it is for the men. No harm in pointing that out.
Why not just de segregate the games anyway, and let all 3 genders play amongst one another? All of this controversy would be cleared up in a heartbeat.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 93 - 16/12/2020 23:06:42
All 3 genders?
And the only one who seems to have a major issue with this is you. Some of your comments have been very sexist and unfair.

C Staunton is right. Shouldn't there just be one organisation in charge of men's and women's football, hurling and camogie?
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 817 - 08/12/2020 01:07:32
spot on doesnt make any sense at all to have 3 associations.

I'm ignorant of many of the inner workings of GAA administration and politics,, so correct me if I'm wrong,, but the girls and the lads coming under the one roof will surely eventually lead to a 50/50 dplit in terms of funding for the senior teams.
In this case the men will be the big losers,(especially at a time when more funding is required to remain competitive) , but most male GAA players seem on board with the idea so why not?
(again I'm mostly assuming,, correct me if I'm wrong)
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 93 - 15/12/2020 23:19:16
Men wouldnt be big losers at all. Everyone under one roof helps everyone from clubs, to players.

That's my query. The women will seemingly benefit from this far more than the men. Alot of the money that the men generate will from now on be diverted to looking after the women's teams,, mens teams are already looking for more funds as it is, they can kinda forget about it now.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 93 - 16/12/2020 14:28:57
Why would this change mean lot of money be diverted from mens game to womens teams?

A merger is a win win situation for all involved. The reality is that gaa clubs can't get people to run for administrative positions at County level. There's a 5 year rule for the main positions at County level and three years at national level and good people are always busy people. This would have happened when Liam O'Neil was president if the ladies association had been willing. Every organisation needs change and this could transform gaa games at club level if it goes ahead. There's too much focus on the County players in these discussions as 99% of the players are club players.
midfield9 (Westmeath) - Posts: 54 - 16/12/2020 15:32:46
There is lot of duplication of resources with separate associations/clubs when there isnt a need. A merger would still see a major focus on county players and the county game"
I'm only assuming that it would see money diverted. I said in an earlier thread that I'm not aware of how gaa administration works.
If both teams are under the one umbrella then the ladies could quite reasonably demand a 50/50 split in terms of funding.
As it stands the men receive more I assume so this would see a reduction in their funding in order to compensate for the increase in women's funding.

Was simply a query that I made after admitting I could well be wrong.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 474 - 18/12/2020 21:07:57    2323532

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I'm only assuming that it would see money diverted. I said in an earlier thread that I'm not aware of how gaa administration works.
If both teams are under the one umbrella then the ladies could quite reasonably demand a 50/50 split in terms of funding.
As it stands the men receive more I assume so this would see a reduction in their funding in order to compensate for the increase in women's funding.

Was simply a query that I made after admitting I could well be wrong.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 95 - 18/12/2020 21:07:57
Well funding wouldnt have to be same considering scale of support, media interest, playing numbers, sponsor interest is all much higher in mens sport.
you wouldnt really be able to reduce mens funding and certainly couldnt to just give more to womens sport

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 2279 - 18/12/2020 21:17:24    2323535

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