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Meath V Dublin Leinster Final.

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "Great and all dublin were. If they end up meeting Donegal depending on tomorrow's result in the Ulster final. They have no chance, Donegal will beat them at the end."
That's the spirit!!!

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 914 - 22/11/2020 00:22:30    2312437

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Replying To realdub:  "Clinical stuff tonight, Meath were trying to score those 'goals' of theirs from early doors but then realised that they were up against a proper defence and so without any other plan, that I could see, they rolled over.
As for any Meath lads who think it was unsporting of Dublin fans to be 'buzzing' after that, and that sport is not about that, they must not have been born when Meath were actually formidable.
Dublin followers were a little concerned that with Gavin gone, there might not be that same drive or team spirit, so they're perfectly entitled to be happy.
I've already stated that Donegal have every chance of beating us, they're a fine side and have players as good as anyone in the country on their day. This will be a game. (If its Cavan I can only say that I would be very surprised).
As for the little jibe from our Kerry friend/s, well, that's all they have left now I suppose."
That's all any of us have left realdub, the championship is a total joke now.

And wait for it next year another couple of dubs will retire and we'll all be told that the dubs are going to be coming back to the pack and that the rest will be stronger.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11812 - 22/11/2020 00:24:17    2312438

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "Great and all dublin were. If they end up meeting Donegal depending on tomorrow's result in the Ulster final. They have no chance, Donegal will beat them at the end."
Pray friend, do enlighten us how?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 985 - 22/11/2020 00:29:15    2312440

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "That's all any of us have left realdub, the championship is a total joke now.

And wait for it next year another couple of dubs will retire and we'll all be told that the dubs are going to be coming back to the pack and that the rest will be stronger."
Ah don't be worrying man, we will be eventually beaten. Ye were caught with a sucker punch this year, and the year that's in it? I don't think any victory or defeat will be taken in quite the same way. I won't sincerely look forward to a game until all this crap is over.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7777 - 22/11/2020 00:36:11    2312442

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If I hear one more time about splitting Dublin in two I'll be sick. If you think it's bad now, can you imagine Dublin North v Dublin South in the Leicester Final cos that's what you'd eventually have.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1635 - 22/11/2020 00:41:01    2312447

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Replying To realdub:  "Clinical stuff tonight, Meath were trying to score those 'goals' of theirs from early doors but then realised that they were up against a proper defence and so without any other plan, that I could see, they rolled over.
As for any Meath lads who think it was unsporting of Dublin fans to be 'buzzing' after that, and that sport is not about that, they must not have been born when Meath were actually formidable.
Dublin followers were a little concerned that with Gavin gone, there might not be that same drive or team spirit, so they're perfectly entitled to be happy.
I've already stated that Donegal have every chance of beating us, they're a fine side and have players as good as anyone in the country on their day. This will be a game. (If its Cavan I can only say that I would be very surprised).
As for the little jibe from our Kerry friend/s, well, that's all they have left now I suppose."
Couldnt agree more clinical is the word we are mile's off the pace
I didn't post prior to the game because I really feared what would happen and my fears we're borne out
It's scary to a degree because this Meath team were very well prepared and each of the lads on that panel are very good footballers and put their heart on the line for the county
Actually because of this it's completely demoralising to be honest and I fear for the future of the game
This Dublin team are fantastic and are actually getting stronger and it goes against the grain for me to say they are a joy to watch
They are class the best I've seen but I fear for inter county football

runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 22/11/2020 00:56:41    2312452

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Replying To realdub:  "Clinical stuff tonight, Meath were trying to score those 'goals' of theirs from early doors but then realised that they were up against a proper defence and so without any other plan, that I could see, they rolled over.
As for any Meath lads who think it was unsporting of Dublin fans to be 'buzzing' after that, and that sport is not about that, they must not have been born when Meath were actually formidable.
Dublin followers were a little concerned that with Gavin gone, there might not be that same drive or team spirit, so they're perfectly entitled to be happy.
I've already stated that Donegal have every chance of beating us, they're a fine side and have players as good as anyone in the country on their day. This will be a game. (If its Cavan I can only say that I would be very surprised).
As for the little jibe from our Kerry friend/s, well, that's all they have left now I suppose."
Couldnt agree more clinical is the word we are mile's off the pace
I didn't post prior to the game because I really feared what would happen and my fears we're borne out
It's scary to a degree because this Meath team were very well prepared and each of the lads on that panel are very good footballers and put their heart on the line for the county
Actually because of this it's completely demoralising to be honest and I fear for the future of the game
This Dublin team are fantastic and are actually getting stronger and it goes against the grain for me to say they are a joy to watch
They are class the best I've seen but I fear for inter county football

runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 22/11/2020 01:03:07    2312454

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Replying To TobinsBeard:  "Donegal wont beat that dublin team.. Never in a month of sundays. 7-10 points between the teams easily."
I get this feeling that whenever Meath get thumped their fans try send out this "Theme" that the All Ireland is a foregone conclusion for everybody else...because "They" got walloped by Dublin Yada Yadda...,,
It's used a some sort of a comforting blanket, to hide the real fact that they are minnows and have been for some time now.

Meath are a terrible team , beaten by every other top team in country over the past 12 months at least "twice" either with intesty or with one arm tied behind their backs pending the approach at the given time of those teams who eye the bigger prize..

Dublin knows what awaits them for here on in , and it most certainly won't be easy for them ..
Leinster was just a warm up, always has been..
Dublin's All Ireland defence starts Now..

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 256 - 22/11/2020 04:21:59    2312465

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Croke Park pour multi millions into Dublin........who consequently win numerous Leinster and All Ireland titles.......go figure? It's beyond a farce now, it has destroyed Gaelic football.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9294 - 22/11/2020 05:18:31    2312466

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Replying To traleegerry:  "It is a complete joke I've been a gaa man all my life but our game is now a one county game and that includes my own county of kerry. It is a ptofessional team dublin versus an amateur team in meath anthe other 30 amateur counties as well I will say again it is a complete joke. Hats off to the guys in croker who made the dubs what they are the best team of any era"
Croke Park will do exactly the same as when Kerry were steamrolling the weaker counties in Munster for most of the last century-remember the Milltown Massacre, Kerry 9-21, Clare 1-9, 1981-nothing.

It was left up the Clare's, Limerick's, Waterford's etc to get their own house in order. Clare did. They brought in outside coaches, one of whom, John Maugham led Clare to victory over Kerry in the Munster Final of 1992; just about a decade after the Milltown joke. Others have started football academies and are now in a better place.

See, it can be done. Sure, if everyone throws the baby out with the bath water, nothing will ever be done. It's especially rich coming from counties where there is plenty of money and sponsorship, no lack of pitches with even new centers of excellence being opened.

I'd entertain such a lament from counties like Leitrim or Carlow where the playing population and resources are really limited. But not from the counties who have either beaten Dublin, drawn with them or just failed by a kick of a ball over the past 4-5 years. That stenches of self-pity, the basest of all emotions.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 35 - 22/11/2020 06:06:16    2312472

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Replying To Royal.Legend:  "Do you not think dublin were let play tonight royaldunne, like a poster said earlier every time a meath lad had the ball dublin jumped on us, meath lads barely toached dublin, no aggression what so ever, but that's a very young meath team and they will recover, but next year if they do play dublin they need to grow a pair."
Oh totally. We weren't at the races. The naivety we showed was unbelievable we didn't tackle at all at the level we needed. I don't know if it was inexperience or not been coached properly. But it does raise questions. Very serious ones.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17038 - 22/11/2020 07:29:02    2312475

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Proves Meath are not a Div 1 team. A county I always admired but no Div 1 team as far as I can see would capitulate to Dublin so meekly two years running. The population point by an earlier poster is off the mark. Meath are largely a one GAA code county with a decent population. Other one code counties (where football is king am thinking of Mayo, Donegal and Kerry) remain competitive and like Meath don't have administrative wrangling and historical preferences of two relatively strong GAA in their counties. However you would never see any of those counties massacred by the Dubs 2 yrs in a row. Leinster is a basket case. A few years ago Kildare seemed to be making progress but appears to have stalled. Meath though it appears learned nothing from 12 months despite from all the perceived advantages the Dubs have.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1734 - 22/11/2020 08:13:05    2312487

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Replying To galwayfball:  "If we got rid of the provincial championship many teams would go the way of the other teams in leinster. Very hard to get lads to commit when there is little hope of silverware. We must keep these competitions or watch many other teams go the way of meath.... very hard for managers to get lads to commit to the other leinster counties outside of Dublin when they have little chance of winning.

With the greatest of respect to Corofin the fact that they were finally beaten after 7 years is only a good thing for club football in Galway.

Dublin getting beaten would be great for the GAA but I can not see it happening in leinster any time in the foreseeable future.. .imagine the manager ringing up players in the other counties to come in to try for the county panel . .....would you like to train in the dead of winter, change your diet and give up your social life with no hopes of silverware and a good chance of being trashed for the nation to see . That's what the managers of kildare and meath are offering"
As good as Dublin are I think Donegal are capable of slaying the dragon(maybe just maybe). Make no mistake about it, Dublin at this stage are a dragon to themselves, do the dub fans really want to win the next 8 all irelands and continue to actually have any interest? every fan will lose interest at some point.

After Donegal can Mayo do it? no idea, weird team, they might come close but for the sake of the GAA I really hope one of them does, jesus it would be a great year if cork actually did it, anyway i am in dream land.

I would compare this current crop of dubs to Rome under Augustus in 117AD, they were as big and as dominant as they could be. Their frontiers went into Africa,asia and north into Germany. They destroyed every little tribe they came across no one could defeat them...but Rome fell. Everything has to end some day and the one defeat augustus had came from the mad will west Germanic tribes who said enough is enough and they were stopped in Germania....Are Donegal/Mayo Germanics? Let's see.

I raise a glass of my coffee at 8 am to Dublin. Great team but Donegal/Mayo?Cork ( hopefully cork) can step up to the plate and slay the dragon for all of us on here.

Regards,

GameofTyrones

GameofTyronesIsBackhere (Tyrone) - Posts: 29 - 22/11/2020 08:22:50    2312489

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Replying To BeJasus:  "I get this feeling that whenever Meath get thumped their fans try send out this "Theme" that the All Ireland is a foregone conclusion for everybody else...because "They" got walloped by Dublin Yada Yadda...,,
It's used a some sort of a comforting blanket, to hide the real fact that they are minnows and have been for some time now.

Meath are a terrible team , beaten by every other top team in country over the past 12 months at least "twice" either with intesty or with one arm tied behind their backs pending the approach at the given time of those teams who eye the bigger prize..

Dublin knows what awaits them for here on in , and it most certainly won't be easy for them ..
Leinster was just a warm up, always has been..
Dublin's All Ireland defence starts Now.."
Couldnt agree more with this post. I never thought I'd see the day Meath would be such whingers. It's ok for them to wallop Wicklow but when it's done to them they cant handle it. Fact is they arent good enough to dine at the top table and that is not Dublins fault.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 529 - 22/11/2020 08:26:58    2312490

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The meath kickout was a bit of a nightmare for them though it was always going to be. The keeper can't physically kick it long so the dublin press has zero risk attached. Flood the area from the 65 up you win it clean and score, put the meath defence under fierce pressure when they do win it and try to turn them over, or finally just foul them to get reorganised. When dublin play against a beggan for example who can boom it 60 metres you can't do that and game is immediately more stretched. It's also very easy to prepare for as a keeper can't suddenly learn to kick it long. Meath also struggled last year with Colgan. It's the single most important area for them to address.

Dublin defence from the forwards back was excellent. When meath actually did play the ball in the dublin defenders were pretty much always out in front. I know in the overall scheme of things it wouldn't have made much of a difference but meath miss mickey Newman. He's a decent full forward who can win his ball and score. He'd also get the younger forwards into the game. Without him the full forward line was a little lost. The young meath players need time together in division 2 to learn how to play together. Like a lot of teams dublin systematically foul when they turn the ball over in the forwards. Its buys them that few secs to get their defence set up. It is quite noticeable and if I were a ref I'd be quick to dish out a few yellows to discourage that.

On the odd occasion in the first half when cluxton had a kick out meath did push up but because he can go much longer than brennan there was plenty risk for meath. The first goal was no doubt a set play. Not sure how meath allowed ocallaghan to have that much space but once they did it was nearly goal all the way. Also a call out to Fenton who is just so athletic, he covers the ground so well and created the extra man.

Meath defenders were overall much too loose in the first, they did improve in the second though it was too late. There's loads to ponder on the overall merits of dublin hockying everyone though that's a separate debate.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 336 - 22/11/2020 08:55:37    2312499

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Sorry RD

That's not true

Teams have absolutely competed in the AI series

There's been draws, loses, 1 pt wins and massive opportunities not taken

What Meath brought tonight was nothing. It's not comparable whatsoever

Meaths performance from the sideline and on the pitch was quite frankly brutal.

Embarrassing.

The worst Meath performance I've ever witnessed

I've seen Dublin better..

Meath absolutely did roll over tonight. No doubt about it."
Jim

You have said Meath were embarrassing etc a few times. We get it.

What is the solution??

Take Dublin's massive sponsorship/finances and pool it centrally?

Split Dublin?

8 groups of 4?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1790 - 22/11/2020 09:01:52    2312503

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Replying To SouthsideRossie:  "It is not Dublin's fault that they are so far ahead of everyone in Leinster. But how many in a row do they have to win (by a mile) before the authorities admit this is not working. 15.. 20..25 .. someone give me the number."
No problem, 20 !

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 759 - 22/11/2020 09:14:01    2312505

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Everything that the gaa have done in the last 20 years has been done to benefit dublin.
Increase the squad sizes and substitutes
Back door system
Making croke park their home pitch for all games
Bringing in the sky 8s
Money money money and more money.

No other county can or will be able to compete.
The only fix in my mind is to bring the squad sizes down and reduce the subs. It is easier of kildare limerick Galway etc and reduce the time down to a 60 min game.

Dublin have 2 player for each position but this advantage goes when u have only 3 dubs

Fitness needs reduce when u go to 60min

Cost of preparing smaller squad reduces

Motivation because all teams have a fairer crack at it.

Take dublin out of croke park except finals or all Ireland final

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 22/11/2020 09:22:25    2312508

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Bored of excuses and people saying football is dead. Dublin have been extremely lucky in certain contests in their 5 in a row run so far. Even before that going back as far as 2011 and the free against Kildare, Weve come out of close games against Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal, proper nail biters, gruelling hard encounters. The fact is Meath are just muck and arent getting basics right.

I dont buy that the All Ireland is wrapped up at all I reckon Donegal and Mayo are both capable of beating us and if they do, they simply wont be like that Meath team last night.

As everyone knows I live in Meath and in the last 10 years I've never seen such confidence that meath would give us a game from fans I met in work etc. I said Dublin would win by double digits yesterday and one person scoffed and said "no way, 3-4 pts, were mad for goals" .. mad for goals against Wicklow (D4) and Kildare (who were makers of their own downfall there)? This Meath team played in division one, theyve been competitive but when push comes to shove when it really matters, they were predictably inept and offered nothing.

I've read so much in the lead up about the past games and teams. Its 10 years since Meath beat Dublin and weve dished out some serious punishment in the time since then and none of those players will have played a competitive game against us. It's not the 90s anymore. The reality is Dublin are miles ahead and were always going to run amuck yesterday

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13578 - 22/11/2020 09:24:18    2312511

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Oh totally. We weren't at the races. The naivety we showed was unbelievable we didn't tackle at all at the level we needed. I don't know if it was inexperience or not been coached properly. But it does raise questions. Very serious ones."
Werent at the races ? When have they ever been at the races in championship football against the dubs In recent years ? They arent mentally strong enough. You believe they are better than they are. They are a division 2 team who played the other division one sides this year and lost all games bar one, and the first d1 team you played in actual knockout football this year beat you by 21 points and it couldve been more. It's not a case of just not being at the races. It's a case of lagging way behind. You can blame the players but ultimately, I dont. I blame the mouthpiece Andy mcentee. He set that team up to get battered before the game started. Surely now you have to be realistic about what Meath are and more importantly, what they are not.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13578 - 22/11/2020 09:29:51    2312513

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