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Ulster Final Donegal V Cavan

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "There is certainly more than one.

I'll freely admit it, Cavan have serious issues to address when it comes to Gaelic football. Nobody in the county can ever give me a satisfactory answer when I ask them how a county can go from 39 USFC titles and 5 AI titles in 65 years, to just one USFC title in 50 years. That's a monumental and spectacular collapse that we still haven't addressed. It suggests structural or admin issues to me.

But the fact remains we're still out in front in the roll of honour and on Sunday we're in that final on merit."
I don't think anyone can credibly say you're not in the final on merit. Both wins were hard fought and the Cavan conveyor belt of talent is starting to pay dividends. Graham is a good manager who has persisted even when talented players were opting out. I admire him. Maybe Sunday will be your day, that's the beauty of the contest.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 902 - 19/11/2020 16:48:37    2311480

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Replying To Jim_Shorts:  "Jesus there are a few arrogant and obnoxious donegal fans on this forum. You'd swear it was Donegal going for 6 All Ireland's in a row by the way they're going on, its hard to listen to.
This talk of Cavan been lucky business is nonsense. It takes some bottle and spirit to bounce back from a relegation to playing 3 tough ulster championship games and coming through the right side of the result. It doesn't matter that Cavan were 8, 9 or 10 points behind they overturned it and won and are in the final on merit.
I disagree of this talk of Murphy getting special treatment, it's no different then any other stand out player. Clifford from Kerry gets far more attention imo. I don't hear the Donegal lads giving out when the McGee is knocking lumps out of other teams star players, they seem to have the blinkers on for this.
I'd dread to think what Donegal people would be like if they had 39 ulster titles and 5 all Ireland like Cavan, the aristocrats of ulster football. They'd be the unbearables."
Think some of you are wanting a row at this stage. I see one person commenting a little over zealously, that's literally it. I expect Donegal to win but wouldn't be shocked if we lost; no Ulster final is easy.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 902 - 19/11/2020 16:51:36    2311482

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Replying To TakeyourPoint.:  "Cavan please do us all a favour and beat Donegal on Sunday, for if Donegal win, ill have to emigrate.

Done some laughing at Bonner's comments about Murphy the other day. That man is level with Alex Ferguson at pure *****housery, its unreal."
I would start packing..

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 902 - 19/11/2020 16:52:07    2311483

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Think some of you are wanting a row at this stage. I see one person commenting a little over zealously, that's literally it. I expect Donegal to win but wouldn't be shocked if we lost; no Ulster final is easy."
No Ulster final is easy? 2018 had Donegal 2-18 Fermanagh 0-12. Last year was very lopsided as well. I used to think Kerry supporters were the masters of this type of stuff. Of the last 11 Ulster finals, 3 of them have been competitive. It will be 3 from 12 after Sunday.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2496 - 19/11/2020 17:01:20    2311490

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Replying To Soma:  "No Ulster final is easy? 2018 had Donegal 2-18 Fermanagh 0-12. Last year was very lopsided as well. I used to think Kerry supporters were the masters of this type of stuff. Of the last 11 Ulster finals, 3 of them have been competitive. It will be 3 from 12 after Sunday."
Hindsight is a great thing isn't it? Nobody in the run-up to an Ulster final expects it to be easy; that's a recipe for disaster.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 902 - 19/11/2020 17:04:29    2311492

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Like most threads on this forum it ends up being ruined by a few eejits posting ridiculous stuff. The comments made by Bonner and Mickey Graham before the match is just a sideshow, no real importance. I gave up on pre-match interviews years ago, waste of time.

I don't see why people think Cavan are lucky to be in an Ulster final, they have been fantastic so far. They have been slow to start in all games and will definitely need to put in a strong 70 minutes. It is difficult to keep coming back from the dead but no reason they can't put in a great performance for the entire match. The spirit of this Cavan team is unreal and they have some fantastic players, they deserve respect.

Donegal have done well in Ulster this past 3 years since Bonner took over. We were a shambles at the end of the Rory Gallagher era, beaten out the gate by Galway in the qualifiers. We still have a lot to prove, especially at business end of the All-Ireland. I feel we will beat Cavan on Sunday but I am not expecting it to be easy.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1734 - 19/11/2020 17:08:24    2311493

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "there's one eejit, most of the other posts are pretty level that I've seen?"
Two max I would say Joe. Think some of our Cavan friends have being rightly hooked and certainly overreacting to the two.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2480 - 19/11/2020 17:59:48    2311507

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Weren't they lucky to have the Ulster final at home too"
Interestingly, Ulster are the only province who saw fit to keep the final away from the most suitable venue to prevent it granting a team home advantage.

Couldn't be upsetting the "great" men from the hills.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4315 - 19/11/2020 19:37:01    2311525

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I'm done with this topic. When ONE of my fellow county men just comes on here to wind up Cavan posters and the conversation on the game ends up in petty jibes I think I'll take my comments to another forum that might discuss the game itself. Best of luck to both teams on Sunday. Hope it's a good final.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1636 - 19/11/2020 19:38:07    2311526

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Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "I'm done with this topic. When ONE of my fellow county men just comes on here to wind up Cavan posters and the conversation on the game ends up in petty jibes I think I'll take my comments to another forum that might discuss the game itself. Best of luck to both teams on Sunday. Hope it's a good final."
Don't go near the Meath v Dublin Leinster Final Topic. It's a bit feisty on there as well.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1136 - 19/11/2020 20:33:44    2311540

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Replying To Saynothing:  "If Donegal mess up and are beat, might as well give Sam to the Dubs early."
Meath will beat Dublin...

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5367 - 19/11/2020 20:50:40    2311548

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Interestingly, Ulster are the only province who saw fit to keep the final away from the most suitable venue to prevent it granting a team home advantage.

Couldn't be upsetting the "great" men from the hills."
For all the whining about one Donegal poster on here and disrespect, it's the Cavan men keeping it going with the daft remarks.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 902 - 19/11/2020 21:50:47    2311567

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Replying To s goldrick:  "Meath will beat Dublin..."
That's the spirit, Meath vs Cavan in a couple of weeks, it should be a great game.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 464 - 19/11/2020 22:01:14    2311572

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Replying To moylagh:  "That's the spirit, Meath vs Cavan in a couple of weeks, it should be a great game."
The next time Meath will play Cavan will most likely be in div2 in 2022.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1164 - 19/11/2020 22:10:34    2311574

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Im really enjoying this thread.While I miss the fact Kerry are gone sometimes as aneutral one can enjoy the banter and not get upset at any of the jibes or needle.Cavan are in the ulster final on merit and beat a fancied Monaghan team on route also.Obviously Breffni park would have suited Cavan better but im sure they still confident.However I just think Donegal have too much for them.However im sure Donegal will take nothing for granted with Bonner and the very astute Rochford.In 1992 Donegal won their first all Ireland outplaying ahotly fancied Dublin team in the final.They had a dogfight with Mayo in the semi but their toughest game was in the first round v Cavan which I think went to a replay.In 1997 Cavan won their last ulster titled managed brilliantly that year by Mairtin Mc Hugh so Cavan and Donegal have a lot in common.On the managers comments.Lots of managers nowadays try to get that edge with referees beforehand by putting ideas in their heads.maybe they copying Jim Gavin and Eamonn Fitzmaurice s template who did it a few times.On the Murphy issue.imo yes he can definitely take care of himself but I do think he s the victim most of the time tbh.I have seen him being pulled and dragged a lot and I do thinkalot of the big men find it harder to get frees.I saw in with Donaghy for years with Kerry.I saw in with Corkery with Cork.Aidan oshea Mayo and Connolly Dublin.on a few occasions I don't know how Murphykept his cool tbh.I look forward to the game and love watching Gearoid Mc Kiernan too.Best of luck to both teams.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 1113 - 19/11/2020 22:36:40    2311583

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Replying To moylagh:  "That's the spirit, Meath vs Cavan in a couple of weeks, it should be a great game."
That hasn't happened since the 1950's. We have a Meath man in our ranks on Sunday which is a good omen for us as we had one in 1997 when we last won Ulster. (I'll clutch at any straw at this stage to get us past the yellow peril). Where will we play this old classic - Carnaross or Virginia? ?

TheFean (Cavan) - Posts: 23 - 20/11/2020 00:02:52    2311594

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A few lads here getting very sensitive, must be the times we live in.
The only thing that really matters are the players themselves. If Donegal players were belittling Cavan's chances in the press then I'd start to be worried. There is zero chance of that happening. If they go out and go about their business on Sunday with the right attitude and intensity then I'll be happy enough.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7110 - 20/11/2020 09:40:15    2311619

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Any word of the weather forecast for the game? Im guessing its going to be a slippy ball.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3786 - 20/11/2020 09:52:14    2311625

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Any word of the weather forecast for the game? Im guessing its going to be a slippy ball."
Looks like it actually might be ok. Cold but dry and a gentle breeze.
The Norwegian weather channel is usually pretty accurate.

https://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/Northern_Ireland/Armagh/

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7110 - 20/11/2020 10:07:01    2311629

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "The next time Meath will play Cavan will most likely be in div2 in 2022."
You demanded respect for Donegal in your post on the previous page and in the very next sentence disrespected both Cavan & Monaghan and I assume you are adding Meath here. When I saw the last comment, I wondered what age is this lad? Clearly, you're the funniest person you know. TG the other Donegal supporters are here to give their thoughts about the final.
Meath Cavan games are usually great occasions, regardless of which division they meet. Competitive games with huge respect. I expect the Ulster final next Sunday will be no different with Donegal to edge it. Cavan are missing some of their best players but appear to be a better team this year, if that makes sense? I think it will be closer than last year as a competition and for one, am really looking forward to it.

round_ball_99 (Meath) - Posts: 18 - 20/11/2020 10:21:46    2311633

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